I don't think Hashirama can handle the Sharingan

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A Kekkei Genkai is passed down from parent to child, but we know that the dilution of a Kekkei Genkai can lessen the power of that Kekkei Genkai. An Uchiha that only has an Uchiha grandparent rather than two Uchiha grandparents and two Uchiha parents will have a hard time using the Sharingan in comparison to a full blooded Uchiha.

So with this knowledge, we're well aware that someone with no genetic ties to a KKG, will lose a lot of chakra and stamina from over-use.

Hashirama is not an Uchiha. Although he may not go blind from Mangekyo usage, the Sharingan could drain a lot out of him due to his high concentration of Yang and the fact that he is a Senju. Even with his amazing life-force and stamina, without being hardwired for the Sharingan, he can never reach it's true potential and it can take a lot of energy out of him with over-use.

I'd imagine that a Senju with Hashirama's DNA would be way better at the Wood-Style than Madara and Obito.

I could be wrong, but I think the true power of Hashirama's DNA lies within the life force that comes from the Wood Style.
 

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He would be able to use the sharingan on the same level as Madara was able to use his wood release.
 
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He would be able to use the sharingan on the same level as Madara was able to use his wood release.

I think Madara's usage was mostly just him copying his friends' techniques with his eyes and then just replicating it. I doubt he has any true mastery of the Wood Style.
 

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Itachi who is Uchiha kotoamatsukami usage is 1 in 10 years

Portion of Hashi dna Kotoamatsukami usage is 3650 in 10 years.

You calculate the difference.
 

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:lmao:...this thread.
This guy is retarded as ever.
 

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Kakashi was spamming kamui by the end of the war.

Hashirama would be able to unlock PS with one tomoe
 

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Seriously...?!:|
If you disagree with the other thread...just post there....you don't have to create a whole thread to response...
 

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I think Madara's usage was mostly just him copying his friends' techniques with his eyes and then just replicating it. I doubt he has any true mastery of the Wood Style.

He used techniques on the same scale but Madara wouldn't reach its full potential. Likewise Hashirama will surely be able to use the sharingan just not able to reach its full potinetial without a lot of training
 

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He can't, obviously. And it can be proven through two simple examples:

- It took Danzo several Sharingans to see through Sasuke's Genjutsu, and he lost to the very same thing at the end. Meaning, he could never break the Genjutsu on-the-spot. That is how he was defeated.

- Kakashi's Kamui was enhanced time and time again by Kurama. He himself accepted it before Shikaku, and even then, Obito could easily cancel his Kamui whenever he pleased with his own, meaning his Kamui was faster and more powerful in its execution.

There you have it.
 
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He can't, obviously. And it can be proven through two simple examples:

- It took Danzo several Sharingans to see through Sasuke's Genjutsu, and he lost to the very same thing at the end. Meaning, he could never break the Genjutsu on-the-spot. That is how he was defeated.

- Kakashi's Kamui was enhanced time and time again by Kurama. He himself accepted it before Shikaku, and even then, Obito could easily cancel his Kamui whenever he pleased with his own, meaning his Kamui was faster and more powerful in its execution.

There you have it.

True, but the argument that chieftan is making is that because of Hashirama's stamina, he can spam the Sharingan's abilities and that his stamina would allow more proficiency than an Uchiha's.
 

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A Kekkei Genkai is passed down from parent to child, but we know that the dilution of a Kekkei Genkai can lessen the power of that Kekkei Genkai. An Uchiha that only has an Uchiha grandparent rather than two Uchiha grandparents and two Uchiha parents will have a hard time using the Sharingan in comparison to a full blooded Uchiha.

So with this knowledge, we're well aware that someone with no genetic ties to a KKG, will lose a lot of chakra and stamina from over-use.

Hashirama is not an Uchiha. Although he may not go blind from Mangekyo usage, the Sharingan could drain a lot out of him due to his high concentration of Yang and the fact that he is a Senju. Even with his amazing life-force and stamina, without being hardwired for the Sharingan, he can never reach it's true potential and it can take a lot of energy out of him with over-use.

I'd imagine that a Senju with Hashirama's DNA would be way better at the Wood-Style than Madara and Obito.

I could be wrong, but I think the true power of Hashirama's DNA lies within the life force that comes from the Wood Style.

If danzo could do fairly well with a body full of sharingans than I think hashi would definitely not have any problems.

It seems like six path Chakra hashi Chakra also can get past ms restrictions so regular sharingan restrictions would be nothing to him.
 

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True, but the argument that chieftan is making is that because of Hashirama's stamina, he can spam the Sharingan's abilities and that his stamina would allow more proficiency than an Uchiha's.

And where is the proof of that? Danzo didn't gain any proficiency. Stamina has nothing to do with proficiency.
 

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A Kekkei Genkai is passed down from parent to child, but we know that the dilution of a Kekkei Genkai can lessen the power of that Kekkei Genkai. An Uchiha that only has an Uchiha grandparent rather than two Uchiha grandparents and two Uchiha parents will have a hard time using the Sharingan in comparison to a full blooded Uchiha.

So with this knowledge, we're well aware that someone with no genetic ties to a KKG, will lose a lot of chakra and stamina from over-use.

Hashirama is not an Uchiha. Although he may not go blind from Mangekyo usage, the Sharingan could drain a lot out of him due to his high concentration of Yang and the fact that he is a Senju. Even with his amazing life-force and stamina, without being hardwired for the Sharingan, he can never reach it's true potential and it can take a lot of energy out of him with over-use.

I'd imagine that a Senju with Hashirama's DNA would be way better at the Wood-Style than Madara and Obito.

I could be wrong, but I think the true power of Hashirama's DNA lies within the life force that comes from the Wood Style.

Ok lets have normal dicussion without insulting each other.

What you posted in picture is true but Hashi dna is exception. Hashi dna is exception in many things.I dont know why honestly.

Lets face the facts :

- Those with Hashi dna don´t go blind from using MS . Losing eye sight from using MS is problem with literally every Uchiha (Madara, Sasuke ,Itachi) Yet in manga only those with Hashi dna don´t lose eye sight.

- Hashirama not being Uchiha will result in him using more chakra for Sharingan than Uchiha does. But would that be a problem ? No Hashirama is a guy with chakra reserves stated to be on pair with Kurama.So increased chakra draining is almost irrelevant thank to his enormous chakra reserves.

- Hashi dna allowed Danzo to use Kotoamatsukami once per day while Itachi could only 1 in decade.Clear advantage for Hashirama.

All suggests that Hashirama won´t have any problem handling Sharingan ( this doesn´t mean he would use it more efficiently than Uchiha´s).

To put it simply Hashirama won´t have any problems using Sharingan but he can´t reach its full potential like Uchiha´s can.
 
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Ok lets have normal dicussion without insulting each other.

What you posted in picture is true but Hashi dna is exception. Hashi dna is exception in many things.I dont know why honestly.

Lets face the facts :

- Those with Hashi dna don´t go blind from using MS . Losing eye sight from using MS is problem with literally every Uchiha (Madara, Sasuke ,Itachi) Yet in manga only those with Hashi dna don´t lose eye sight.

- Hashirama not being Uchiha will result in him using more chakra for Sharingan than Uchiha does. But would that be a problem ? No Hashirama is a guy with chakra reserves stated to be on pair with Kurama.So increased chakra draining is almost irrelevant thank to his enormous chakra reserves.

- Hashi dna allowed Danzo to use Kotoamatsukami once per day while Itachi could only 1 in decade.Clear advantage for Hashirama.

All suggests that Hashirama won´t have any problem handling Sharingan ( this doesn´t mean he would use it more efficiently than Uchiha´s).

To put it simply Hashirama won´t have any problems using Sharingan but he can´t reach its full potential like Uchiha´s can.

Hashirama won't lose eye-sight fine.

Even with large reserves, he'll still lose large amounts of chakra. I don't think reserves is the thing that matters, it's whether you're hardwired for it. Small reserves will just make you pass out quicker, but even with large chakra reserves, if you're not made for it, it'll f you up.

Hashirama's DNA allowed Danzo to use Kotoamatsukami once a day yes.


This doesn't suggest that he'll have an easy time using it. He'll have more conveniences in it's use, not in his ability to handle the stamina drain.
 

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lol danzo, kakashi, obviously hashirama can handle it. Where are all the good threads at.
 

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There is a place for everything and everything is in its place. MAYBE Hashirama can handle it. But does it make sense for him to possess the Sharingan. OOC much
 

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Handling Sharingan = / = proficiency.
 

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He can't use MS for too long and he wouldn't be able to unlock EMS because he's not uchiha.
 
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