Were the Hyuga even the strongest with the absence of the Uchiha?

[KidGamer65]

Speed feats are now only valid if they are pointed out. Cool.



3 seconds isn't enough time.



More of this "are you really saying X is faster than Y" nonsense based on your own feelings. Not to mention Ino saved Choji from an attack from Asuma.





Yes she was, kiba/shino/hiashi/ino/shikamaru/choji were all in her divisioj

Nope. If you aren't going to read my posts don't respond. This speed feat isn't a speed feat unless it's pointed out because nothing shows that they are all racing at top speed. Same goes for Minato and the other Hokage. If they aren't racing seeing who gets there first doesn't help your case.

Based on what? Oh wait, nothing. :lol In a Manga where people move at superhuman speeds over 3 seconds is enough. Yes. OVER. Not exactly 3. Why in the hell would it be exactly 3 seconds? 3 seconds measures the time period from the BD being launched to Ino touching ground. Byakugan lets them see the battlefield. Obito had to charge and then fire BD and Ino only intervened after it was fired.

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Again. No. :lol Read the Manga.

 

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Believe in the Hype!

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Fourth Databook proof!!!

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Translation: Hiruzen earned the title of professor for being a researcher. He was trained by both Hashirama and Tobirama, as the man that would succeed them. At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama. Ability in all Five Nature Alterations, Ability in all Hiden (clan techniques), Genjutsu, Ability in all Ninjutsu existing in Konoha which explains his reputation as the professor. His title of Professor is no joke, hence the essence of Hiruzen is his talent with ninjutsu. Everyone in the village is his family member

5 Elements - Not even his full power???

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Since Hiruzen was revived at old age, his chakra and power should be as low as before but wait... Tobirama states that the Hokage have been revived "close to original power" this means Hiruzen was revived weaker then he was alive at old age yet he was able to produce the 5 Elements at such mastery that it was even capable of stalemating the Buddha Statue while the 5 Kage couldn't. Just imagine his Prime.

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Hiruzen knows and could perform all non KKG Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals = The use of the Ino–Shika–Chō at will with Kage Bunshin

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Broken Ninjutsu versatility

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Hiruzen utilizing the Inuzuka Clan's ability of an enhanced sense of smell to catch the 2 Hokage in complete darkness.

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Hidden Leaf Tech

Bringer of Darkness, Great Clone Explosion
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough


Sarutobi Clan
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique


Izunaka Clan
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang

Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap

Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique

Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy

Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades

Uzumaki Clan

Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Five Elements Unseal

OP Summoning Monkey King Enma

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The Third hokage's comrade in arms, the monkey king enma's transformation jutsu Characterized by the hardness of diamond and its at-will extensibility, Kongou Nyoi-Bou is Sandaime's"weapon of choice", so to speak and with it in hand he's made it through a world of war for an extended period of time.

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Enma is capable of using Transformation: Adamantine Staff, which allows him to turn into a extending and expanding staff that is as hard as adamantine, capable of cutting through the Shinju branches easily. By extending in staff form, Enma can even push Kurama out of Konoha rather easily. He is also able to produce various body parts, such as eyes or arms, from the staff. Additionally, Enma can still move on his own in the staff form, allowing him to return to Hiruzen. Enma can even clone himself in his staff form, turning him into any number of smaller staffs that he uses for Adamantine Prison Wall, a move that can even protect against Hashirama Senju's Wood Release techniques.

Durability Feats - Super Kage Bunshin???

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Hiruzen has shown to have excellent durability feats at age 69 with his Kage Bunshin as one of his clones was stabbed by Hashirama with 4 Kunai in the chest yet did not disperse until Hiruzen was done with it. He was also able to hold Orochimaru's soul for an hour long despite being stabbed through the chest by the Sword of Kusangi.

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Dangerous CQC

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]Even past his Prime, Hiruzen had showed excellent Close Quarter Combat skills. Moments after sealing parts of his soul away to seal the Edo Hokage and exhausting his remaining Chakra on Kage Bunshin, he was still able to easily disarm Orochimaru from his Sword of Kusangi with great ease and catch him to prepare his sealing Jutsu. He was also able to easily break through the Shinju branches and save Naruto despite Tobirama and Minato unable to get through.


Strong fighters such as Aye couldn't do much against Wood Style from Madara. Only Onoki managed to destroy lots of Wood with his Jinton which even damaged edo-Madara. Tsunade destroying a Wood Clone don't count because it was merely a clone. Same with edo-Madara cutting Hashirama's Wood clone in half don't count. Tobirama failed to destroy all of the Juubi Wood Style with his Water Style Ninjutsu. Minato said he didn't have enough chakra to teleport Naruto away. Which means that Minato couldn't destroy the Wood either. He could only teleport Naruto away. That was his only option. The first time Madara used Wood Style, characters such as Gaara or Dodai were saying that it's GG right now because they can't do anything to that Wood. Only Naruto saved their asses. So you see, Kage level fighters like Tobirama, Minato, Gaara, Aye were powerless against Wood Style. But Hiruzen and a few others managed to cut through the Wood like paper. The only other person who had cut through the Wood so easily was EMS Sasuke with his Susanoo sword.

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Intelligence "The Professor"

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Having been around the previous 3 Shinobi World War, Hiruzen's knowledge and experience in all forms of Shinobi combat are unparalleled. Although brief, we only get to see a glimpse of "The Professor"

One great example would include when Hiruzen combined the Reaper Death Seal with Kage Bunshin to try and seal multiple souls at once. This was a genius move because it would help delay the sealing of his own soul enough to go after Orochimaru's soul next.

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The last time we see a glimpse of Hiruzen's intelligence was when he personally engages Obito so that nobody needs to put their lives at risk, taking advantage of the fact that he's already dead to analyse Obito's abilities. By observing Obito's Truth-Seeking Balls with his specialty, the Shuriken Kage Bunshin, he theorizes that they are similar to the Third Tsuchikage's kekkei tōta in that they are a combination of multiple nature transformations. He also postulates that the Truth-Seeking Balls have limits to the duration of their malleability, but his upper body is destroyed immediately after that. He was able to deduce the Truth-Seeking Balls, (a technique that is beyond Shinobi knowledge) in mere seconds after seeing it

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Further Hype and Testimonials

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Orochimaru admitting that he would be killed by a 59 year old Hiruzen.

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Danzo in his dying moments admitting inferiority despite possessing Izanagi, Kotoamatsukami and Hashirama's DNA.

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Kabuto, a spy who has spied on and knows all about the Shinobi countries states that an old Hiruzen was stronger then all the 5 Kage at the time. Just imagine his Prime.

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Even with the entire SA and 5 Kage, Shikamaru states that only Hiruzen could contend with Guruguru at the time.

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Considers himself to be the strongest in his group which also included Tobirama. Confident enough to take on the entire Kinkaku and survive.

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Extra Databook Hype

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"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

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"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.

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Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84

Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure

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[Umari Senju]

Nope. If you aren't going to read my posts don't respond. This speed feat isn't a speed feat unless it's pointed out because nothing shows that they are all racing at top speed. Same goes for Minato and the other Hokage. If they aren't racing seeing who gets there first doesn't help your case.

Based on what? Oh wait, nothing. :lol In a Manga where people move at superhuman speeds over 3 seconds is enough. Yes. OVER. Not exactly 3. Why in the hell would it be exactly 3 seconds? 3 seconds measures the time period from the BD being launched to Ino touching ground. Byakugan lets them see the battlefield. Obito had to charge and then fire BD and Ino only intervened after it was fired.

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Again. No. :lol Read the Manga.

Lol looks like you took all the fight outta Lady Byakugan. Bravo dude. I gave up on this long ago

 

[kiiro]

Who cares, what cares if there is some genius between them that excels everyone.
For example Jiraiya is not from a clan and can beat the strongest clans.

 

[Mellanoma]

i know he isnt featless, but his feats are basically meaningless. his fight with hidan gave him nothing substantial for a 1 v 1 since he wasnt fighting alone. as an edo, his attacks are constantly avoided and do nothing.

the chakra build up and the byakugan's ability to foresee those attacks makes them useless, just as neji did so against kidomaru and deidara. not to mention that was easily avoided by ino even WITH her trying to save choji or that kaiten could repel all those.

i want taijutsu feats that kidgamer keeps talking about. yet they dont exist. at least not enough to say he would beat neji.

That's because Hidan is one of the most nimble and agile people in the manga AND Asuma couldn't use his jutsu on Hidan as his teammates would have been caught in the cross fire. Asuma used his jutsu finally when Hidan sat still(To use ritual)

As for taijutsu feats Asuma doesn't have many other than fighting Kisame however Asuma vs Neji is a different fight.

Asuma would not fight Neji close range however his ash katon jutsu are quite effective against Neji's stationary fighting style. Neji isn't as nimble as Hidan and definitely isn't as acrobatic.

Another question I have is can Neji rotation block Asuma full powered Futon knife thrown?

 

[Hakke]

I didn't ignore it.

I thought you did

Precisely. So now I'm waiting for you to show that it's powerful enough to do something of note to Asuma. What is so hard to understand about that? You keep on crying about how I'm saying it does "no damage" in general when I only said it will do nothing of note to Asuma.

Though I can't expect you to address the real issue here, because you can't.

pinpointed attacks can damage any normal Shinobi and can give you an advantage in close combat if you landed them correctly because it allow to use pain to influence the actions and reactions of an opponent. some attacks can cause a serious damage, paralysis or in rare cases an instant death.

killer B also strike them to increase his attacks killing potential btw

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" Akin to a warrior's dance performance, B is able to rapidly and relentlessly bombard his target, with precision, at various angles and locations. This style, comprised of sheer unpredictable movements, can easily catch his opponents off-guard. Even those who wield the*Sharingan*have shown to have had trouble keeping up with B's movements and were forced to go on the defensive or retreat.[2][3]*B is also able to employ this technique against a multiple of opponents, as shown in his fight with*Taka.

Combining this fighting style's wild nature with swords, B is able to increase the lethality of his attacks. B, using any number of swords can easily close in on and exploit an opponents vital points.[1]*To maximise the style's killing potential, he could, in tandem with his seven*Supervibrato Lightning Release Swords, make use of his unique and peculiar*kenjutsu:*Acrobat.[1]"

and before you @ me with "wiki isn't evidence". all this was based on the Manga and the DataBook.

"Kisame tank it" isn't an argument because Kisame is not a normal Shinobi. he is far more durable and have shown an insane endurance feats.

also in the Manga all we saw is his back when he was blown away but in the anime his front body was shown and he made a facial expression as if he was feeling pain

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Kishi stated in the Databook that Neji struck his vitals so it is safe to say that he was feeling pain but it was not shown on panel. because all was shown on panel was his back so we can't be sure

the Air Palm is very forceful as was stated in the DB and shown in the Manga. and we all know that a forceful attack can damage. and it is a pinpointed attack which make it even more dangerous and can be even launched from a distance. Kisame is a special case because of his durability and endurance capability. Asuma is not Kisame. give me durability feats from Asuma that suggests that he can tank such an attack?

Because if he stops protecting himself and attacking to try and use Air Palm Asuma's Hien cuts him down. I've already posted scans of how long it reaches.

fair point. sure it would be hard to launch it in a heat of a close combat. but it can still be used in different scenarios. in example, if Asuma rushed at Neji and attacked with a swung then Neji can just move backwards to evade his attack and launch a swift air palm to the legs to make him fall

Yes, because she wanted to interrogate him. So he took a punch from Sakura who was holding back her strength and still didn't tank anything. Tanking means little to no damage was taken.

yes, I know that. but her attacks were still powerful no? and yes, it did damage but One Blow Body have even caused more damage

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that should prove that it is powerful enough to repel

We've seen Pt. 2 Neji's bodyblow. There is no room for speculation. I don't care how big you think he can make it, I only care about how big Kishimoto depicted him being capable of making it. I could use this same logic and say that Itachi can make any size Katon he wants. Not how it works.

The Hyugas can decide the amount of Chakra they want to release. for instance, Neji here have released a small amount of Chakra

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but here he released a wide arc of Chakra

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and like I said, One Blow Body is just a powerful release of Chakra.

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and Neji in the Manga have only released a small amount of Chakra, he can release more to make his OBB more powerful

the Fire Ball Jutsu is irrelevant because it have a different mechanism

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Fanfiction. The only time he can destroy chakra is if he uses Gentle Fist, and if he tries to clash w/ Hien using his palms he loses his hands.

Kidomaru also thought this is the case which is why he tried to bind his hands with the webs

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and these are the same webs which were stated to be capable of binding two elephants

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yet. it couldn't bind a 13 year old Hyuga kid

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because...

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releasing Chakra from any tenketsu can also destroy Chakra.

Like I said his fuuton blade is ineffective here so he needs to use his normal Hien which would not prevent Neji from being in a grappling distance with him so it is Hand to Hand Combat

No, they are in the same broad tier but Neji has feats against inferior foes that Asuma has replicated against superior foes as posted above, so go skim through everything that's been posted on that topic. Asuma is also outright stated to be among the best when it comes to close quarters combat when it comes to Konoha Ninja so there's really no arguing that Neji wins against Asuma in CQC.

Kisame used Ninjutsu on Neji. he did not with Asuma. and we did not see Neji vs Kisame on a raw close combat without Ninjutsu like we did with Asuma so claiming that he is inferior is baseless. and btw if Kisame used water prison on Asuma then would've been ****ed up

And yes, I can push the debate that way because Neji can't clash against Asuma's weapons. Thus he is forced to evade. There is no other option for him.

if you were talking about the fuuton blade (which is ineffective as I explained) then yeah, but if you are talking about his normal Hien, then don't push it :lol

None of this proves anything. Abstract statements aren't evidence of your claims. Sure, the Byakugan can anticipate movements to some extent. Does that mean he'll overpower Asuma in CQC? Nope. Where is the comparison? I'm not seeing any. His hand speed being faster than Asuma's is irrelevant for the same reason it's always been irrelevant when you bring it up when arguing against Sasuke.

I didn't say that he would overwhelm Asuma but

1. being able to anticipate movements would allow you to better react to an opponent so that's an advantage no?

2. his hand speed is irrelevant when it comes to fighting someone with a long blade. but Asuma's fuuton blade is ineffective here so no it is not irrelevant. he needs to move his hands fast in order to parry melee weapons attacks like this.

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which he is able to

Seriously. Stop making excuses. It's getting old.

whatever

 

[KidGamer65]

I thought you did



pinpointed attacks can damage any normal Shinobi and can give you an advantage in close combat if you landed them correctly because it allow to use pain to influence the actions and reactions of an opponent. some attacks can cause a serious damage, paralysis or in rare cases an instant death.

We've seen what happens when Air Palm is used. No more arguing. Quit trying to change canon.

killer B also strike them to increase his attacks killing potential btw

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" Akin to a warrior's dance performance, B is able to rapidly and relentlessly bombard his target, with precision, at various angles and locations. This style, comprised of sheer unpredictable movements, can easily catch his opponents off-guard. Even those who wield the*Sharingan*have shown to have had trouble keeping up with B's movements and were forced to go on the defensive or retreat.[2][3]*B is also able to employ this technique against a multiple of opponents, as shown in his fight with*Taka. Combining this fighting style's wild nature with swords, B is able to increase the lethality of his attacks. B, using any number of swords can easily close in on and exploit an opponents vital points.[1]*To maximise the style's killing potential, he could, in tandem with his seven*Supervibrato Lightning Release Swords, make use of his unique and peculiar*kenjutsu:*Acrobat.[1]" and before you @ me with "wiki isn't evidence". all this was based on the Manga and the DataBook. "Kisame tank it" isn't an argument because Kisame is not a normal Shinobi. he is far more durable and have shown an insane endurance feats. also in the Manga all we saw is his back when he was blown away but in the anime his front body was shown and he made a facial expression as if he was feeling pain

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Kishi stated in the Databook that Neji struck his vitals so it is safe to say that he was feeling pain but it was not shown on panel. because all was shown on panel was his back so we can't be sure the Air Palm is very forceful as was stated in the DB and shown in the Manga. and we all know that a forceful attack can damage. and it is a pinpointed attack which make it even more dangerous and can be even launched from a distance. Kisame is a special case because of his durability and endurance capability. Asuma is not Kisame. give me durability feats from Asuma that suggests that he can tank such an attack?

This is all irrelevant. We've seen Air Palm's feats. It blew Kisame back less than 10 meters and failed to do even the slightest bit of damage. There is no arguing it does anything significant to anyone without feats to back it up. You say "it's safe to say he was feeling pain" but you can't prove it or even support it. You say "it's a forceful attack" yet Kishimoto has shown us just how "forceful" it is, and it's weak. W-E-A-K. :lol Cut the bullshit already.

Now this guy is using the anime as proof? When we've clearly seen what happened in the Manga? What's even funnier is that his expression is nowhere close to an expression one makes when feeling pain. :lol Stop making excuses buddy. You look ridiculous.

When you provide me the feats from Neji's Air Palm that let him do significant damage to any shinobi then we can resume this topic, until then I'll just accept your concession.

fair point. sure it would be hard to launch it in a heat of a close combat. but it can still be used in different scenarios. in example, if Asuma rushed at Neji and attacked with a swung then Neji can just move backwards to evade his attack and launch a swift air palm to the legs to make him fall

Then Asuma can just dodge his Air Palm, or dodge/block any follow up attack from Neji, so this gets him nowhere.

yes, I know that. but her attacks were still powerful no? and yes, it did damage but One Blow Body have even caused more damage

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that should prove that it is powerful enough to repel

Stop making stuff up please. It blew Zetsu off him. No damage was done. That hole is there because Zetsu opened his torso in order to trap Neji, and in response Neji blew him off. Meanwhile Zetsu was barely able to move after taking Sakura's hit. There is no comparison.

The Hyugas can decide the amount of Chakra they want to release. for instance, Neji here have released a small amount of Chakra

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but here he released a wide arc of Chakra

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and like I said, One Blow Body is just a powerful release of Chakra.

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and Neji in the Manga have only released a small amount of Chakra, he can release more to make his OBB more powerful

the Fire Ball Jutsu is irrelevant because it have a different mechanism

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If you aren't going to show the feats I'm not interested. The mechanism is not different. You think that since Neji released more chakra for another type of technique he can do the same for Body Blow and I want you to actually prove this or stop quoting me. Not interested in your nonsense speculations.

What's even funnier is that you've clearly failed to comprehend the scan you posted. Stamina is converted to chakra. That's how all techniques work. Body blow releases chakra, chakra that is formed from changing stamina into said chakra. What's also funny is that you make the "it's different excuse" yet you fail to recognize that releasing a bunch of chakra in a burst wave is not the same as continuously releasing chakra like Neji was doing to dodge Kidomaru's arrow.

Kidomaru also thought this is the case which is why he tried to bind his hands with the webs

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and these are the same webs which were stated to be capable of binding two elephants

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yet. it couldn't bind a 13 year old Hyuga kid

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because...

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releasing Chakra from any tenketsu can also destroy Chakra.

Like I said his fuuton blade is ineffective here so he needs to use his normal Hien which would not prevent Neji from being in a grappling distance with him so it is Hand to Hand Combat

No, it's not hand to hand combat, because Neji still can't clash with Asuma's weapons. I don't know what is so hard for you to understand about that simple concept.

Kisame used Ninjutsu on Neji. he did not with Asuma. and we did not see Neji vs Kisame on a raw close combat without Ninjutsu like we did with Asuma so claiming that he is inferior is baseless. and btw if Kisame used water prison on Asuma then would've been ****ed up

He used Water Prison, meaning Neji was not fast enough to escape getting caught. To use water prison you have to be within striking distance of your foe as you need to hold the prison to maintain it. That's a minus. That was also a 10% clone of a 30% Kisame let alone the 100% Kisame that Asuma went against so I'm really not trying to see these excuses.

if you were talking about the fuuton blade (which is ineffective as I explained) then yeah, but if you are talking about his normal Hien, then don't push it :lol

No, he beats him regardless.

I didn't say that he would overwhelm Asuma but

1. being able to anticipate movements would allow you to better react to an opponent so that's an advantage no?

2. his hand speed is irrelevant when it comes to fighting someone with a long blade. but Asuma's fuuton blade is ineffective here so no it is not irrelevant. he needs to move his hands fast in order to parry melee weapons attacks like this.

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which he is able to

1. When you can show that this is enough to let him beat Asuma then it'll be important. I don't get what's so hard to understand about this concept. Making abstract statements without showing how they apply to your specific scenario doesn't help you one bit.

2. No, it's not. 64 palms striking speed has not a damn thing to do with hand to hand combat nor do I care about your gif unless you can prove that Neji can accomplish this against Asuma.

Asuma has already taken on someone that Neji did poorly against on his own. There is no need for you to fanboy anymore. Your boy doesn't stand a chance.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao I'm convinced you have issues at this point. You are really sitting here making every excuse in the book to avoid the truth. Air Palm's only feat is failing to do anything to Kisame. I keep telling this guy to post the feats from Neji's Air Palm that let him do significant damage to Asuma yet all I'm met with are the same nonsense statements about how he's targeting the vitals, he held back against Kisame and other excuses.

-Asuma was stated to be one of the best in close quarters among the Konoha shinobi. "Foremost". (Hint hint: Better than Neji.)
-Asuma's feats are superior to Neji's, even if we don't make a comparison using both of their matches against Kisame. Being able to go up against and somewhat pressure 100% Kisame is a feat many times better than anything Neji has ever done in this Manga. Ever.
-Goes on about hand to hand combat, as if actual unarmed combat is the same as armed combat. As if one isn't a million times more effective and harder to counter than the other.

Yet this guy is still telling me that Neji's amazingly fast hand speed gives him the win. What?
Yet this guy is still telling me that Byakugan lets him evade all of Asuma's attacks. What?

 

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Kakashi is a fence rider.

 

[Made in Heaven]

hey am here to say i was wrong on all this. as always lol.

 

[DrProof]

hey am here to say i was wrong on all this. as always lol.

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[Dylan Uchiha]

With the absence of the Uchiha, of course they were.

 

[ProGun]

Sakura is a Uchiha now so that makes it three.

Safe to say they're still the strongest in the village, with Sasuke, Sakura and Sarada.

And by the same logic, since Hinata is the Hyuga heiress => her clan is dominant in the marriage, Naruto married into her clan, and so now Hyuga are top.

 

[Hammock]

And by the same logic, since Hinata is the Hyuga heiress => her clan is dominant in the marriage, Naruto married into her clan, and so now Hyuga are top.

wait wouldnt hinata be an uzumaki ? :|

 

[Liquid Snake]

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Senjus stomp uchihas