#Indra's Lineage > Asura's

[shelke]

That doesn't really change my point. The Senju pretty had that war won. Who would have stopped Hashirama if he had Madara die and went on to attack the Uchiha.

When it comes to the war between the two brothers and their descendants, Ashura won in every sense.

It does, actually. It completely changes it.

 

[Guntah]

It does, actually. It completely changes it.

No, it really doesn't.

The Senju had that war won, Hashirama's merciful nature and dreams for the future are the only thing that stopped him from killing Madara and the rest of the clan. The manga doesn't need to outright say the Uchiha were the inferior clan at that point in time because they very clearly were.

 

[shelke]

No, it really doesn't.

The Senju had that war won, Hashirama's merciful nature and dreams for the future are the only thing that stopped him from killing Madara and the rest of the clan. The manga doesn't need to outright say the Uchiha were the inferior clan at that point in time because they very clearly were.

Where does it state that they had? Of course it doesn't need to. You are so damn clever to piece the things yourself, given your posting history. The point was the Indra and Ashura battles. Your point remains moot and pointless.

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

No, it really doesn't.

The Senju had that war won, Hashirama's merciful nature and dreams for the future are the only thing that stopped him from killing Madara and the rest of the clan. The manga doesn't need to outright say the Uchiha were the inferior clan at that point in time because they very clearly were.

The whole point of this thread is to show that the Uchiha line has better abilities and benefits. Hashirama and Tobirama were the only reasons as to why the Senju overcame the Uchiha. If Obito was born in that time and the MS didn't have a blinding effect, which side would be winning then?

The fact is, without ninjutsu; an Uchiha/Indra corruption of Ninshu, the Senju have nothing on their sibling clan

 

[Styles]

lol,uchiha wankers will say anything

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thats why the above was reiterated many times ya?

Lol now go read what BZ said about Hashirama and Madara. He used that whole fight to get his DNA.

Your first paragraph is uchiha fan denial.

Hashirama defeated Madara before that loss you are talking about, and that time Hashirama decided not to kill Madara.

No it's not it's manga fact that they killed each other the fact that you deny it pretty much confirmed what i said.

Yea because it's not like the manga portrayed Hashirama along with Tobirama and 1 or a few more Senju's around him.

 

[shelke]

Lol now go read what BZ said about Hashirama and Madara. He used that whole fight to get his DNA.



No it's not it's manga fact that they killed each other the fact that you deny it pretty much confirmed what i said.

Yea because it's not like the manga portrayed Hashirama along with Tobirama and 1 or a few more Senju's around him.

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[Styles]

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Isn't that when the Uchiha turned their back on Madara?

 

[shelke]

Isn't that when the Uchiha turned their back on Madara?

Yup. Hashirama outright states that, "what would Uchiha think?" which means that nobody was there but him. So, he took on 10 people for a whole day.

 

[Styles]

Yup. Hashirama outright states that, "what would Uchiha think?" which means that nobody was there but him. So, he took on 10 people for a whole day.

Tragic.

 

[Guntah]

Where does it state that they had? Of course it doesn't need to. You are so damn clever to piece the things yourself, given your posting history. The point was the Indra and Ashura battles. Your point remains moot and pointless.

Do tell, who exactly was gonna stop the likes of Hashirama and Tobirama then? Madara obviously failed, after all.

 

[shelke]

Do tell, who exactly was gonna stop the likes of Hashirama and Tobirama then? Madara obviously failed, after all.

By fighting 9 other people as well?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

A lot of what is said is filler. For one, Obito was never weak enough and suffered from using basic techniques, he just fell behind kakashi who was a massive genius and was about three class levels beyond his age. Obito became a chuunin the same time as Gai, Rin, and even Asuma.

Uchihas are natural born geniuses and are gifted to be stronger. But even awakening a sharingan was rare within the clan and it took until Izuna and madara's time juts to awaken he mangekyo sharingan. Tobirama said it himself that Uchihas can awaken a power far greater than the senjus.

Tobirama was just smart enough to effectively fight a uchiha and hashirama was lucky enough to learn sagemode, so they're the anomaly of the senjus

 

[shelke]

A lot of what is said is filler. For one, Obito was never weak enough and suffered from using basic techniques, he just fell behind kakashi who was a massive genius and was about three class levels beyond his age. Obito became a chuunin the same time as Gai, Rin, and even Asuma.

Uchihas are natural born geniuses and are gifted to be stronger. But even awakening a sharingan was rare within the clan and it took until Izuna and madara's time juts to awaken he mangekyo sharingan. Tobirama said it himself that Uchihas can awaken a power far greater than the senjus.

Tobirama was just smart enough to effectively fight a uchiha and hashirama was lucky enough to learn sagemode, so they're the anomaly of the senjus

I would say Tobirama was just lucky. Hashirama was more of an anomaly.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

senju > uchiha

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

senju > uchiha

Yikes lol According to the Senjus

Uchiha>Senju

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[Guntah]

By fighting 9 other people as well?

Oh, yes, nameless fodders one through eight are sure to make a difference against Madara Uchiha....except no. They never did. Tobirama, yeah, I'll give you that, but that's just what I said. Who can even hope to hold back both Hashirama and Tobirama together?

 

[shelke]

Oh, yes, nameless fodders one through eight are sure to make a difference against Madara Uchiha....except no. They never did. Tobirama, yeah, I'll give you that, but that's just what I said. Who can even hope to hold back both Hashirama and Tobirama together?

You have the panels Kishimoto cut out? Please, send them in. I mean, since you know what went down.

 

[Guntah]

You have the panels Kishimoto cut out? Please, send them in. I mean, since you know what went down.

I know Madara needed a big ass tailed beast to lose with dignity against Hashirama. I doubt Hashirama needs ten men to pull off an asswhooping.

 

[shelke]

I know Madara needed a big ass tailed beast to lose with dignity against Hashirama. I doubt Hashirama needs ten men to pull off an asswhooping.

Do you have any ****ing common sense at all? One, Madara never lost; two, Hashirama certainly didn't have SM then. So, add two into two now: EMS Madara fought ten Senju for a day and lost. That's exactly what the manga shows. Your lame flip-flopping doesn't change that.

 

[Guntah]

Do you have any ****ing common sense at all? One, Madara never lost; two, Hashirama certainly didn't have SM then. So, add two into two now: EMS Madara fought ten Senju for a day and lost. That's exactly what the manga shows. Your lame flip-flopping doesn't change that.

Boy, the manga doesn't show shit. No one can't prove me those ten people were fighting alongside then, they certainly weren't there when the fight started, and no onecan't prove Hashirama doesn't have Sage Mode there...if that is even needed given the crap Madara needed to pull off so to even force Hashirama to rely on that. My point is that if we go by what the manga really shows without forcing conclusions, we know Hashirama and Madara fought, as he refered to it as THEIR fight, and by the end of the fight Madara was down. Anything more or less than that is assumption