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It was noted that Momoshiki is stronger than Kaguya
Also Naruto and Sasuke are above Madara showcasing better feats than him. Please re- read the manga
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Right because an 11 year old defeated Kaguya with a rasengan after he was able to teleport between all her dimensions and tanked her Perfect Susanoo destroying God Palms
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No it wasn't, and no they aren't. Please stop being a moron.
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It wasnt noted that Momoshiki was above Kaguya ? Then why was Kaguya so hellbent on trying to build an army to take down Momoshiki and Kinshiki TWICE
and bruh , RSM Naruto was literally keeping up with a character that was well above Madara in terms of power
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By feats, Madara is not above Naruto or Sasuke as they completely shxtted on him once they received their Six Paths Power
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Once again. No. As usual you have no idea what you are talking about.
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1. Naruto and Sasuke beat Momoshiki w/ Iso Susanoo. In the Manga they needed help from Sakura, Obito and Kakashi to simply seal her, they were never able to overpower her. Her brewing an army to fight them off is irrelevant. More numbers=Greater chance at success. Only a fool would argue that Momoshiki is above the progenitor of chakra who has the power to wipe out an entire planet in strength. Oh wait, look who I'm arguing with. A guy who thinks the man who was killed by Boruto's enhanced Rasengan is on Kaguya's level. Smfh.
2. Naruto and Sasuke are not above Madara. What happened when Madara had one eye is irrelevant. Naruto was not keeping up with Kaguya. Please don't be dumb. If he was anywhere near her level it wouldn't have taken him, Sasuke, Kakashi, Sakura and Obito to simply reach the endpoint of the fight. Those scans you posted, if you decide to actually use your brain, have jack shit to do with Naruto being on par w/ Kaguya. Naruto used tactics that would work well against someone with her fighting style. Yeah, tactics. Those exist. :lol
-Mass shadow clone spam worked against Kaguya because she doesn't fight with wide scaled techniques nor can she absorb them. What's worse is that she was overpowering his clones for the majority of the fight. Yup. That's keeping up alright. :lol Mass shadow clone spam against someone with wide scaled jutsu or Avatars doesn't work. That's why Naruto didn't do that shit against Sasuke. So why would it work on Madara? :lol
-Chakra arms? Poor scan to bring because Kaguya overpowered him and wasn't even taking him seriously. Then in the next panel she one shotted the Susanoo that is on par with Naruto's Kurama Mode. So tell me more about how Naruto can keep up w/ Kaguya. You can't even make an argument for Sasuke as I see and that makes sense, because every single time Sasuke engaged Kaguya he got raped.
-Finally, if I used your garbage ass logic, Sasuke would be above Kaguya because he would easily counter everything that Naruto did against Kaguya that actually affected her in some way. He'd easily counter clone spam. He'd easily counter chakra arms. He'd easily counter the chakra claw and he'd easily counter the Bijuu FRS.
3. Madara's feats are superior and what he can potentially do is superior. Without VoTE powers Naruto and Sasuke aren't even on Madara's level. Naruto lucks out because that is apart of his natural skillset. Sasuke doesn't, Sasuke does not luck out. Sasuke w/ his own power vs. a full power Dual Rinnegan JJ Madara results in Sasuke's death.
-More firepower by far. (Bijuu Dama and Chibaku Tensei and Susanoo)
-Superior physically.
-Better defense. (Susanoo+Gudo Dama)
-Stronger Avatar (JJ Madara Susanoo>>Sasuke's Susanoo=Naruto's Avatar)
-Can absorb and repel most of their techniques. (Nagato's Shinra Tensei leveled a village. JJ Madara is dimensions above that level)
-Can destroy and overpower the ones they can't.
Now go on. Make more petty excuses like you do best.
2. Naruto and Sasuke are not above Madara. What happened when Madara had one eye is irrelevant. Naruto was not keeping up with Kaguya. Please don't be dumb. If he was anywhere near her level it wouldn't have taken him, Sasuke, Kakashi, Sakura and Obito to simply reach the endpoint of the fight. Those scans you posted, if you decide to actually use your brain, have jack shit to do with Naruto being on par w/ Kaguya. Naruto used tactics that would work well against someone with her fighting style. Yeah, tactics. Those exist. :lol
-Mass shadow clone spam worked against Kaguya because she doesn't fight with wide scaled techniques nor can she absorb them. What's worse is that she was overpowering his clones for the majority of the fight. Yup. That's keeping up alright. :lol Mass shadow clone spam against someone with wide scaled jutsu or Avatars doesn't work. That's why Naruto didn't do that shit against Sasuke. So why would it work on Madara? :lol
-Chakra arms? Poor scan to bring because Kaguya overpowered him and wasn't even taking him seriously. Then in the next panel she one shotted the Susanoo that is on par with Naruto's Kurama Mode. So tell me more about how Naruto can keep up w/ Kaguya. You can't even make an argument for Sasuke as I see and that makes sense, because every single time Sasuke engaged Kaguya he got raped.
-Finally, if I used your garbage ass logic, Sasuke would be above Kaguya because he would easily counter everything that Naruto did against Kaguya that actually affected her in some way. He'd easily counter clone spam. He'd easily counter chakra arms. He'd easily counter the chakra claw and he'd easily counter the Bijuu FRS.
3. Madara's feats are superior and what he can potentially do is superior. Without VoTE powers Naruto and Sasuke aren't even on Madara's level. Naruto lucks out because that is apart of his natural skillset. Sasuke doesn't, Sasuke does not luck out. Sasuke w/ his own power vs. a full power Dual Rinnegan JJ Madara results in Sasuke's death.
-More firepower by far. (Bijuu Dama and Chibaku Tensei and Susanoo)
-Superior physically.
-Better defense. (Susanoo+Gudo Dama)
-Stronger Avatar (JJ Madara Susanoo>>Sasuke's Susanoo=Naruto's Avatar)
-Can absorb and repel most of their techniques. (Nagato's Shinra Tensei leveled a village. JJ Madara is dimensions above that level)
-Can destroy and overpower the ones they can't.
Now go on. Make more petty excuses like you do best.
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Once again, Madaras feats arent even close to Naruto and Sasuke please let me know aside from Limbo and CT what moves are going to affect Kaguya ? please stop it
I stopped listening to you when you said : Stronger Avatar (JJ Madara Susanoo>>Sasuke's Susanoo=Naruto's Avatar)
Since when does JJ Madara have Susanoo , you and these madeup feats are making you looking pathetic dawgs.. If Madara already had Susanoo, then why didnt he use it ? There was plenty of moments where he could have used to it but he didnt and that is because he doesnt have it . Bruh Sasuke and Naruto were literally shxtting on everything Madara threw at them what are you saying my guy.
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Look at this retarded clown.
LMAO Rt @ retarted clown .
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What affects Kaguya is irrelevant. We aren't discussing Madara vs. Kaguya. We are talking about Madara vs. Naruto or vs. Sasuke. That also isn't a rebuttal. It's your opinion. In case you haven't noticed I don't care about your opinion.
No. You read my entire post and realized that you have no way to actually address it. Thus you are resorting to pathetic cop outs. Of course that's all you can manage because when someone actually comes with the heat you run out of the kitchen. :lol
There are no made up feats. Susanoo is a tech given by MS and Madara has all of his Mangekyo's abilities. If you want to claim that Madara doesn't have Susanoo, prove it or stop quoting me. That simple.
"There are moments when he could've used it blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"
Shut up. Please. :lol He didn't use Limbo against Gai. I guess he lost it during that fight. Adult Naruto doesn't utilize the Bijuu's power. I guess he can't. Sasuke doesn't have access to the Rinnegan paths either. JJ Madara also can't use Preta Path despite it being a Rinnegan tech. He also can't use Bijuu Dama or chakra arms despite them being Juubi Jin abilities.
"Naruto and Sasuke together were matching a Madara who was dicking around what are you saying my dawgs my guy wahwahwah blah blah"
:lol
Come correct or get lost little man.
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KidGamer65 let me school you real quick again
Kaguya is far stronger than Madara. And Madara was curbstomped twice by Naruto and Sasuke who easily dealt with the power he utilized with both eyes.Even his flat out best technique, Infinite Tsukuyomi, couldn't pierce through Sasuke's Rinnegan enchanced Complete Body - Susanoo.
RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke were overwhelming JJ Madara the whole time. Right before they fought, Madara states "let this be the final battle and see who's powers are greater". With the name of chapter 673 as "The Ultimate Clash!"
In chapter 674, as their fight ensues, Madara says he realizes that he cant beat them so he runs to get his other Rinnegan so he can initiate Infinite Tsukuyomi and survive. Sasuke appears and slashes him in half . Madara resurfaces in chapter 676 and 677 and uses four Limbo clones and multiple Chibaku Tenseis which both Naruto and Sasuke counter without getting hurt at all.
So even if you want to argue that Madara wasn't going "all out" and didn't try to kill them for some reason (when they were the main ones in his way and he just called this battle the final battle). That doesn't explain how the "unbeatable" Madara was sent through the God Tree roots by Naruto, impaled by Sasuke, restrained by them both, and then bisected by Sasuke. So if he's so unbeatable and they didn't stand a chance against him why did those events happen and why he did himself acknowledge that he had to take them seriously? Let's not forget to note that Sasuke's Rinnegan wasn't fully developed yet and Naruto only had half of Kurama the whole time and never bothered to create clones to make his Sage Art Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken attack once.
Naruto against Kaguya held his own against her , going literally blow for blow, ripped off her arm, and battered her enough to make her transform against her will into the ten-tails rabbit form.
Momoshiki's feats are by far better than Madara's. He uprooted the Shinju by blocking Naruto and Sasuke's attacks. He can absorb any techinque sent against him and use them himself.
Tell me, what feats does Madara even have to put him on adult Naruto and Sasuke's level better yet RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke's level ? Show me, tell me them please instead of making up some fanfiction bs about how JJ Madara can use Susanoo .
Kaguya is far stronger than Madara. And Madara was curbstomped twice by Naruto and Sasuke who easily dealt with the power he utilized with both eyes.Even his flat out best technique, Infinite Tsukuyomi, couldn't pierce through Sasuke's Rinnegan enchanced Complete Body - Susanoo.
RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke were overwhelming JJ Madara the whole time. Right before they fought, Madara states "let this be the final battle and see who's powers are greater". With the name of chapter 673 as "The Ultimate Clash!"
In chapter 674, as their fight ensues, Madara says he realizes that he cant beat them so he runs to get his other Rinnegan so he can initiate Infinite Tsukuyomi and survive. Sasuke appears and slashes him in half . Madara resurfaces in chapter 676 and 677 and uses four Limbo clones and multiple Chibaku Tenseis which both Naruto and Sasuke counter without getting hurt at all.
So even if you want to argue that Madara wasn't going "all out" and didn't try to kill them for some reason (when they were the main ones in his way and he just called this battle the final battle). That doesn't explain how the "unbeatable" Madara was sent through the God Tree roots by Naruto, impaled by Sasuke, restrained by them both, and then bisected by Sasuke. So if he's so unbeatable and they didn't stand a chance against him why did those events happen and why he did himself acknowledge that he had to take them seriously? Let's not forget to note that Sasuke's Rinnegan wasn't fully developed yet and Naruto only had half of Kurama the whole time and never bothered to create clones to make his Sage Art Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken attack once.
Naruto against Kaguya held his own against her , going literally blow for blow, ripped off her arm, and battered her enough to make her transform against her will into the ten-tails rabbit form.
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Momoshiki's feats are by far better than Madara's. He uprooted the Shinju by blocking Naruto and Sasuke's attacks. He can absorb any techinque sent against him and use them himself.
Tell me, what feats does Madara even have to put him on adult Naruto and Sasuke's level better yet RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke's level ? Show me, tell me them please instead of making up some fanfiction bs about how JJ Madara can use Susanoo .
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1. I don't care about anything that isn't a full power Madara.
2. I don't care about anything that is Naruto and Sasuke working together.
3. I will address one thing in that garbage paragraph though. Madara's main focus was using IT, which is why he left Sasuke and Naruto to deal with CT and Limbo. :lol Diversions. Not Madara going all out. You cry about how Madara didn't hurt them with his diversion yet they didn't land a single hit on Madara either once he got his other eye. Your point? Oh wait, you don't have one.
4. I addressed EVERYTHING relating to Kaguya so I'm really not trying to hear it again until you refute it.
5. I don't care about Momoshiki and Madara. Naruto nor Sasuke can beat Momoshiki alone so that doesn't prove your point. Even if I was to talk about Momoshiki and Madara, Madara would destroy him in a battle simply because Deva techniques(CT, Shinra Tensei) cannot be absorbed as they use natural forces and objects to deal damage.
"he uprooted the Shinju"
Lmao stop being stupid. Him, Naruto and Sasuke's clash uprooted the trunk of a Mountain sized Shinju. A Naruto far below Madara cut the Shinju of Planet Earth (larger than a Mountain) in half.
The feats have been posted. You just ignore them because you are too much of a immature little brat to admit when you are mistaken about the Manga.
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LMAO his main focus was IT yet he legit just told them that "let this be the final battle and see who's powers are greater". With the name of chapter 673 as "The Ultimate Clash!" The only reason why he ran away because he was getting shxtted on by Naruto and Sasuke. How are you going to sit there and say "let this be the final battle and see who's powers are greater" to them and not go full out lol. He was clearly implying that he was going full out otherwise he wouldnt have even mentioned the previous line at all.
Um Momoshiki feats literally shxt on Madara's dude. He can legit blitz him and turn him into pills and eat him or he can absorb his light attacks and repel them back.
Momoshiki has :
Black Receiver
Caged Heat Arson Prison
Chakra Edible Creation
Crimson Flame
Deep Crimson Spiral
Hair Binding Technique
Inukai Takeru no Mikoto
Monkey Rock
Pheasant Hunter
Rasengan
Shadow Imitation Technique
Tailed Beast Ball
Thunder Splitting Heaven and Earth
Water Release: Torrent Bullet
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
and what does JJ Madara have :
Limbo
IT
Chibaku Tensei
Sage Art: Storm Release Light Fang
Sage Art: Yin Release Lightning Dispatch
Limbo can be seen by his third eye so I doubt that its going to play as a huge factor in this fight.
Chibaku Tensei , Sage Art: Storm Release Light Fang and Sage Art: Yin Release Lightning Dispatch can easily be destroyed or countered by Momoshiki's Deep Crimson Spiral or Tailed Beast Ball or Thunder Splitting Heaven and Earth
The only techinque that can pose a threat is IT but knowing Momoshiki he probably knows how to counter that by either switching into a dimension. Or can probably even withstand that since BZ stated that the Rinnegan can bypass the IT
Yeah Madara solos alright lmao gtfo outta here w that bullshxt bruh
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-Madara used CT.
-Madara left Limbo on the ground.
-Instead of engaging Naruto and Sasuke he flew to the Moon.
If he prioritized fighting and killing them over launching IT he would've done so.
You can't be this stupid now. Why are you still talking about Naruto and Sasuke vs. One Eyed Madara? Like I said, if it's not full power Madara I do not care.
-Momoshiki can't blitz anyone.
-Momoshiki can't turn him into a pill.
-Momoshiki absorbing his "light attacks' is irrelevant.
-The third eye isn't connected to his optic nerve, so he can't see out of it you imbecile. So no, Momoshiki cannot perceive Limbo either.
Lmao this boy really listed techs off the wiki as if it takes the place of an argument. You're exposing yourself pal. Momoshiki's tech works by absorbing something and releasing it. Once he releases it he can't use it again unless he absorbs it again. That's why he was going to get shat on by Sasuke, Darui and Gaara had Kinshiki not come and saved his ass by offering himself up despite Momoshiki absorbing Bijuu Dama and elements beforehand.
When he starts the battle w/ Madara he'll only have the jutsu he displayed on his own. Which would be the Rock Monkey, the phoenix, and the thing that was overpowered by a giant Rasengan. :lol Multiple Mountain Range Sized Chibaku Tensei would flatten him and his jutsu.
And no, this is what JJ Madara has:
-All techs used by EMS Madara.
-All techs used by Nagato as Nagato was using Madara's eyes.
-All techs used by One Eyed SM Madara.
-All techs used by Edo Madara.
-All techs granted by being a Juubi Jinchuuriki.
So that's Susanoo, all Katon, the Mokuton he showed as an Edo, all of the Rinnegan paths, Limbo, Bijuu Dama, Juubi Chakra arms, Gudo Dama and more. Like I said, the only reason you are trying to deny Madara techniques he didn't lose based on fact (and not your shitty opinion) is because with these powers Madara shits on Momoshiki and is superior to Naruto and Sasuke individually. Even if I denied him the techs he has, he'd still buttrape Momoshiki. Chibaku Tensei flattens all his creations and then 5 Limbo plus the original tear his ass up.
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Bruh what , ofcourse i listed those feats because these are the feats that he's shown using whether he did absorb them or not.
And JJ Madara has all of those feats ? LMAO how come he did not display any of those feats ? espeically when his back was against the wall . he didnt even use any of those techniques buddy lol nice fanfiction
Lets say for arguments sake that he can use all of them, it doesnt matter because Momoshiki can literally absorb every single of them thus strengthening his arsenal even more so GG