Lets clear this up about Itachi and Yata

davidou

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Susanoo and yata aren't the same thing and yes there is Hyperbole however hyperbole can be proven or disproven dependent on the source or feats.

The person who stated Kabutowari can break any defense has never seen Yata mirror but im positive Black Zetsu saw both

As for Kaguya absorbing ANY jutsu that is still true as Jutsu by definition is just chakra. When they battled her they use Senjutsu.

If BZ saw the technique before, he wouldn' t have said "yata is said to deflect everything".
 

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Susanoo and yata aren't the same thing and yes there is Hyperbole however hyperbole can be proven or disproven dependent on the source or feats.

The person who stated Kabutowari can break any defense has never seen Yata mirror but im positive Black Zetsu saw both

As for Kaguya absorbing ANY jutsu that is still true as Jutsu by definition is just chakra. When they battled her they use Senjutsu.

Doesn't matter if they are the same thing. The principle behind the reasoning stands. You say since BZ has seen pretty much all techs and still said "Yata is said to be invincible", that it's invincible. Meanwhile Suigetsu, the one who was narrating that page I posted, said that Kabutowari is said to be a sword that can bust through all defenses despite having knowledge on Sasuke's Susanoo.

Senjutsu is Jutsu. BZ said that no jutsu would work on her yet multiple jutsu did her damage.
 

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where did he say 360?

a form can be anything, not just triangles and circles. and here i thought you'd be educated, guess UAE's education system still needs some improvement.
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Dude I know what you mean.....tell me why itachi never did it?
Obviously the yata is nowhere to be seen in his perfect susanoo, which means=yata= not stronger than the ps defenses...and how does what mellanomo said suppose to be changing forms?....:lmao:....you know it's like the yata do it's best to protect Itachi, because it's about to break...
 

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Dude I know what you mean.....tell me why itachi never did it?
Obviously the yata is nowhere to be seen in his perfect susanoo, which means=yata= not stronger than the ps defenses...and how does what mellanomo said suppose to be changing forms?....:lmao:....you know it's like the yata do it's best to protect Itachi, because it's about to break...
Look at the pic again, you clearly see Yata Mirrors "chakra" swirling all over the place, but I don't blame you for not understanding because you're like 123filler and Pulkit sikh.

Lastly, Perfect Susanoo is not canon anyway, peace out and good night
 

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Look at the pic again, you clearly see Yata Mirrors "chakra" swirling all over the place, but I don't blame you for not understanding because you're like 123filler and Pulkit sikh.

Lastly, Perfect Susanoo is not canon anyway, peace out and good night
Lol:lmao:
It is Cannon, like it or not
Yata isn't invincible
Itachi is not invincible
And so on:lol
And as for the yata, maybe that was because of how strong Sasuke's attack is:lmao:so it's chakra was spreading around itachi....:axedance:
 

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Lol:lmao:
It is Cannon, like it or not
Yata isn't invincible
Itachi is not invincible
And so on:lol
And as for the yata, maybe that was because of how strong Sasuke's attack is:lmao:so it's chakra was spreading around itachi....:axedance:

Itachis perfect susanoo is canon? This chat gets more haram with every passing minute.
 
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Doesn't matter if they are the same thing. The principle behind the reasoning stands. You say since BZ has seen pretty much all techs and still said "Yata is said to be invincible", that it's invincible. Meanwhile Suigetsu, the one who was narrating that page I posted, said that Kabutowari is said to be a sword that can bust through all defenses despite having knowledge on Sasuke's Susanoo.

Senjutsu is Jutsu. BZ said that no jutsu would work on her yet multiple jutsu did her damage.

BZ stated it was said to deflect anything. Which based on feats it did.

Also Jutsu and Senjutsu are completely different. Senjutsu or Sage Jutsu is formed through Natural energy or "Sage Chakra".
Jutsu is formed through Chakra. Based on feats and portrayal BZ was absolutely right. BZ Credibility can't be questioned. The guy literally narrated the entire history /fate of the shinobi world


Stay mad:axedance:


That Oro Itachi incident changed you just as much as Kabuto
 
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BZ stated it was said to deflect anything. Which based on feats it did.

Also Jutsu and Senjutsu are completely different. Senjutsu or Sage Jutsu is formed through Natural energy or "Sage Chakra".
Jutsu is formed through Chakra. Based on feats and portrayal BZ was absolutely right. BZ Credibility can't be questioned. The guy literally narrated the entire history /fate of the shinobi world

No, based on feats it deflected paper bombs and Sasuke. That's not everything.

No, they aren't. Sage Chakra is chakra. Nature Energy is Nature Energy. Not chakra. Thus it is all chakra. His credibility is irrelevant because no one said he lied. That's hyperbole. An exaggeration. Not a lie. Nothing supports Yata being invincible besides hyperbole.
 

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Nowadays, Itachi fans believe that he can beat Kaguya, state that Kaguya said that Itachi is invincible, even tho Kaguya wasn't created at that time, and also, Many people was said to be invincible, we all know how that turned out to be:lol, also:
1- Black zetsu stated that Amaterasu is the strongest physical ability, we now know tens of jutsus that are stronger than Amaterasu.
2- Black zetsu stated that Itachi's tsykuyomi is the strongest genjutsu, we now know that it's nothing compared to the rinnegan users, infinity tsykuyomi, Shisui's genjustu, etc....:lol
All fake hype bro...:lol
I know it's sad but you should move on.....and accept the #FACTS:sigar:
 

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No, based on feats it deflected paper bombs and Sasuke. That's not everything.

No, they aren't. Sage Chakra is chakra. Nature Energy is Nature Energy. Not chakra. Thus it is all chakra. His credibility is irrelevant because no one said he lied. That's hyperbole. An exaggeration. Not a lie. Nothing supports Yata being invincible besides hyperbole.

Senjutsu is created with Sage Chakra which is Natural Energy and Chakra mixed as one.
Jutsu is simply chakra



Until I see Yata mirror beaten or the databook changes. We can agree to disagree on that.

Nowadays, Itachi fans believe that he can beat Kaguya, state that Kaguya said that Itachi is invincible, even tho Kaguya wasn't created at that time, and also, Many people was said to be invincible, we all know how that turned out to be:lol, also:
1- Black zetsu stated that Amaterasu is the strongest physical ability, we now know tens of jutsus that are stronger than Amaterasu.
2- Black zetsu stated that Itachi's tsykuyomi is the strongest genjutsu, we now know that it's nothing compared to the rinnegan users, infinity tsykuyomi, Shisui's genjustu, etc....:lol
All fake hype bro...:lol
I know it's sad but you should move on.....and accept the #FACTS:sigar:

You seem to have a strong dislike for Itachi.

The topic is about Yata mirror.
 

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Senjutsu is created with Sage Chakra which is Natural Energy and Chakra mixed as one.
Jutsu is simply chakra



Until I see Yata mirror beaten or the databook changes. We can agree to disagree on that.



You seem to have a strong dislike for Itachi.

The topic is about Yata mirror.

With your logic, Temari can blow away the universe.You are so naive, you will end just like Madara, manipulated all your life until you die understanding that all your life was based on a lie.
 

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With your logic, Temari can blow away the universe.You are so naive, you will end just like Madara, manipulated all your life until you die understanding that all your life was based on a lie.

disproven and as for all that other stuff. lol quite a sad life to live
 

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Recycled arguments.
 

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Can you explain how this was disproven?

Because Temari lacks the chakra to blow away all things in the universe since she was incapable of blowing away Raikage
 

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I hate Itachi and consider him a gary stu, but I will still say that there really is nothing to disprove Yata Mirror. I mean, Black Zetsu himself said this. And before anyone brings up the Mist Swordsmen hammer or w/e it was, those were Suigetsu's words, who knows nothing of YataMeanwhile, BZ was with Obito, who ruled over the Mist for many years, not to mention being alive for 1000 years and contrrolling the history of shinobi. . Call it a hyperbole all you want, but it needs to be disproven first, and unless Salad somehow gets and thus causes Yata to be nerfed, I doubt that's happening.
 
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Because Temari lacks the chakra to blow away all things in the universe since she was incapable of blowing away Raikage

That' s not a proof.
Sometimes you believe, sometimes not, interesting, you are obviously a fanatic.
 

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The entire duration of their fight, Kakashi did nothing, but praise Itachi for his ability to remain one step ahead.





Further implication that Itachi hadn't put forth effort is Kakashi's own statement . Itachi's true strength doesn't just pertain to MS, clearly. We've seen this in part two.

Well ofc Itachi had a reputation and deserved the praise from Kakashi. Doesn't change the fact that he was keeping up with Itachi and Itachi too praised Kakashi.

Itachi wasn't even trying tho.

Well if he wasn't trying then he wouldn't have needed to use MS. He could've put down Kakashi using some other jutsu if that's the case.
 
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