Lets clear this up about Itachi and Yata

Mellanoma

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Invincibility:

Black Zetsu/ Kaguya stated that Itachi was invincible:

This is the same persona that:

1 Shot RM Madara
1 Shot Perfect Susanoo
Tanked Infinite Tsukyomi
Immortal


How hard is it for people to accept Manga, Feats, Databook and Character portrayal?

Yata has been solidified in the books forever and confirmed invincible by an entity that can destroy everything effortlessly. I would imagine that someone capable of 1 shotting the planet should have 100% validity in stating that Yata is invincible.

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Lol....
Itachi stated that EMS Madara is invincible....which means:
EMS Madara>Itachi
And:
Hashirama>EMS Madara with the nine tails
Sage obito>4 hokages combined
Sage Madara> sage obito
Kaguya>Sage Madara
At the time of when black zetsu stated that Itachi is invincible, Kaguya was never been created at that time, use your brain please...and stop saying the same thing....Itachi is below Nagato...like it or not...
Btw...it's just fake hype....The same was said to Madara and pain and look at what happens later...
 

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Some individuals can't come to terms with Itachi Uchiha, someone with pure Uchiha DNA, and no handouts from the Senju,
etc. being the most powerful character with the usage of Yata/Totsuka. Ignorance is what I call it.
 

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Lol....
Itachi stated that EMS Madara is invincible....which means:
EMS Madara>Itachi
And:
Hashirama>EMS Madara with the nine tails
Sage obito>4 hokages combined
Sage Madara> sage obito
Kaguya>Sage Madara
At the time of when black zetsu stated that Kaguya was never been created at that time, use your brain please...and stop saying the same thing....Itachi is below Nagato...like it or not...

Titling someone as invincible doesn't mean they're superior to you. Kaguya's praise of invincibility far supersedes Itachi's reference of immortality of Madara's part.

Who would you believe? A 21 year old Uchiha, or a millennia old goddess? Clearly the goddess is the most knowledgeable on immortality, as she possessed immortality, and could only be defeated through sealing.

So your whole A>B>C calculations are both wrong, and tactless.
 

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Perhaps Kawaki got ahold of Yata Mirror/Totsuka blade and that's how he took on Naruto and possibly Sasuke
 

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Invincibility:

Black Zetsu/ Kaguya stated that Itachi was invincible:

This is the same persona that:

1 Shot RM Madara
1 Shot Perfect Susanoo
Tanked Infinite Tsukyomi
Immortal


How hard is it for people to accept Manga, Feats, Databook and Character portrayal?

Yata has been solidified in the books forever and confirmed invincible by an entity that can destroy everything effortlessly. I would imagine that someone capable of 1 shotting the planet should have 100% validity in stating that Yata is invincible.

Thoughts?

He didn' t state Yata is invincible, he stated that he eared that Yata is invincible, there is a nuance.
 

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He didn' t state Yata is invincible, he stated that he heard that Yata is invincible, there is a nuance.

Get your facts correct. "There's no mistake." "He's invincible." There's not questioning, or doubt in Zetsu/Kaguya here. Kaguya/Zetsu know Yata Mirror's power.

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"yata is said to deflect", if he knew the weapon he would have said "yata deflects".

Zetsu/Kaguya are simply referencing the spiritual tool. Clearly he/she/it knew about the weapon just based on "no mistake..." coupled with the fact he knew about Totsuka Blade, and its ability. They are coupled spiritual weapons, why would Kaguya/Zetsu know about one, and not the other? Doesn't make sense, and it shows they did.
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Even here Black Zetsu/Kaguya refers to Totsuka Blade with the "is said" context, yet we all know it does what it says it does. To be even more thorough on this topic, white zetsu was dumbfounded, yet black zetsu wasn't. Why is that? Because:

A. BZ knew of the spiritual weapons.

 
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Zetsu/Kaguya are simply referencing the spiritual tool. Clearly he/she/it knew about the weapon just based on "no mistake..." coupled with the fact he knew about Totsuka Blade, and its ability. They are coupled spiritual weapons, why would Kaguya/Zetsu know about one, and not the other? Doesn't make sense, and it shows they did.

Someone told him about those 2 weapons, it' s a manga fact, and that makes perfect sense.
I don' t know why you deny that manga fact.
 

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Itachi probably is invincible as long as he has chakra to use his MS techs and Susanoo.
 

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Titling someone as invincible doesn't mean they're superior to you. Kaguya's praise of invincibility far supersedes Itachi's reference of immortality of Madara's part.

Who would you believe? A 21 year old Uchiha, or a millennia old goddess? Clearly the goddess is the most knowledgeable on immortality, as she possessed immortality, and could only be defeated through sealing.

So your whole A>B>C calculations are both wrong, and tactless.
Stop trolling....It was stated that Madara is the strongest uchiha member....Kaguya never said something like that...PS...When black zetsu said that, Kaguya was never been created, so stop referring to her, black zetsu was also not been considered as her will at the time.....;D....even orochimaru said that Sasuke will surpass Madara one day...he skipped Itachi...he knew that Sasuke was already at his level...so he said that Sasuke maybe will have the chance to surpass someone who's greater than his brother....
 
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Someone told him about those 2 weapons, it' s a manga fact, and that makes perfect sense.
I don' t know why you deny that manga fact.

You sound absolutely rhetorical right now. How would someone tell Black Zetsu, someone that is Kaguya about something that existed in times of her own era/near her own era.

Black Zetsu/Kaguya clearly know of the weapons, and how they work etc. Show me where in the manga it states someone told Kaguya about the spiritual weapons? I'm expecting a manga scan, if you don't have one next reply you're just as bad as the Naruto/Byakugan fans who post fanfic.
 

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Itachi probably is invincible as long as he has chakra to use his MS techs and Susanoo.

Naruto still solos him no matter what anyone say, even if Itachi has a rinnegan...
 

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Stop trolling....It was stated that Madara is the strongest uchiha member....Kaguya never said something like that...PS...When black zetsu said that, Kaguya was never been created, so stop referring to her, black zetsu was also not been considered as her will...;D....even orochimaru said that Sasuke will surpass Madara one day...he skipped Itachi...he knew that Sasuke was a really at his level...so he said that Sasuke will may surpass someone greater than his brother....

Kaguya stated Itachi was invincible therefore Itachi is the strongest Uchiha member. Recognition from a goddess/mother of all chakra > recognition from a 21 year old Uchiha (albeit Itachi being the most intelligent Uchiha in the series,
his knowledge of the mundane/world itself <<<<< Kaguya's).

Therefore, Itachi by factual context from Kaguya titles him as the strongest Uchiha in the series. This is a presented fact many Itachi fans have posted already.

Kaguya was never created what? Where is your proof? Oh, mindless fanfiction as per usual when those arguing against Itachi,
cannot find anything to debunk said claims. You're pathetic.

I'm not arguing this with you, as clearly you've no sense of logic, or reasoning.
 

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Lol....
Itachi stated that EMS Madara is invincible....which means:
EMS Madara>Itachi
And:
Hashirama>EMS Madara with the nine tails
Sage obito>4 hokages combined
Sage Madara> sage obito
Kaguya>Sage Madara
At the time of when black zetsu stated that Itachi is invincible, Kaguya was never been created at that time, use your brain please...and stop saying the same thing....Itachi is below Nagato...like it or not...
Btw...it's just fake hype....The same was said to Madara and pain and look at what happens later...

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Through progression of the manga.. Feats, portrayal and new information provides us with debunking hype. Yata was proclaimed by Kaguya to make itachi invincible. Even Kabuto stated he had the tools to end war. Yata was never disproven

Itachi probably is invincible as long as he has chakra to use his MS techs and Susanoo.


Its really that simple. Yata puts him in a state of invincibility

Naruto still solos him no matter what anyone say, even if Itachi has a rinnegan...

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You sound absolutely rhetorical right now. How would someone tell Black Zetsu, someone that is Kaguya about something that existed in times of her own era/near her own era.

Black Zetsu/Kaguya clearly know of the weapons, and how they work etc. Show me where in the manga it states someone told Kaguya about the spiritual weapons? I'm expecting a manga scan, if you don't have one next reply you're just as bad as the Naruto/Byakugan fans who post fanfic.

Just read the scan you posted, "Yata is said to", that means that BZ has not seen it in action before.
How many times will I have to tell you that before you actually understand?
 

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Itachi probably is invincible as long as he has chakra to use his MS techs and Susanoo.

That is literally, what Kaguya stated. Without Yata Mirror/Totsuka Blade active, Itachi isn't invincible, no one is arguing that he is without the tools. But even without them, he is still Top 10, just with the tools he is #1.
 

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That is literally, what Kaguya stated. Without Yata Mirror/Totsuka Blade active, Itachi isn't invincible, no one is arguing that he is without the tools. But even without them, he is still Top 10, just with the tools he is #1.

Don't think so but still he'd be quite strong.
 
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