[Tier] Can Minato kill any DMS user? ( I don't think so)

[sayian]

Both unlimited stamina. (not dealing with the stamina copout route) whose the superior one?

minato v dms obito

minato v dms itachi

minato v dms sasuke (v4) (no ps)

minato v ems madara (no ps)

 

[Nattana]

Minato gets fodderized by any of them.

 

[Booker]

With an imaginary unlimited stamina buff? None lol.

But he could defeat vanilla DMS Obito and Itachi.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Minato > Itachi

 

[The Messiah]

Outlasting with stamina is not a cop out. It's a smart strategy.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

he beats itachi

 

[sayian]

Minato > Itachi

he beats itachi

Nope

Outlasting with stamina is not a cop out. It's a smart strategy.

I thought it was too until I realized 90% of minato's versus fights were nothing but that lol.

With an imaginary unlimited stamina buff? None lol.

But he could defeat vanilla DMS Obito and Itachi.

doesn't dms obito have quicker reaction?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Nope

Yep, he beats him.

 

[sayian]

Yep, he beats him.

Yup, fleeing to victory :lol good ol minato.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Yup, fleeing to victory :lol good ol minato.

Or he just kills him. A win's a win.

 

[sayian]

Or he just kills him. A win's a win.

lol sure. after itachi runs out of stamina. like alot of minato's versus fights.

 

[The Messiah]

I thought it was too until I realized 90% of minato's versus fights were nothing but that lol

There's nothing wrong with him exploiting an advantage that he has over his opponent.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

lol sure. after itachi runs out of stamina. like alot of minato's versus fights.

its not my fault that itachi's only defence is extremely taxing on his body. You may give him unlimited stamina but he's still gonna go blind due to sharingan overuse. Which still nets minato the win. Or minato summons the entire toad army (unlimited stamina lets him due that (your stipulation)) protects them via constant ftg then uses frog song and it's still a gg. Take your booty pain elsewhere.

 

[sayian]

its not my fault that itachi's only defence is extremely taxing on his body. You may give him unlimited stamina but he's still gonna go blind due to sharingan overuse. Which still nets minato the win. Or minato summons the entire toad army (unlimited stamina lets him due that (your stipulation)) protects them via constant ftg then uses frog song and it's still a gg. Take your booty pain elsewhere.

So rather than prove to me that minato can defeat itachi another way, you decide to post fanfic. sad

There's nothing wrong with him exploiting an advantage that he has over his opponent.

I disagree, should a character really be "superior" to said character if the only way he can win is simply just avoid? I think it's ridiculous. where do I cross the line when people put 8th gate gai above minato yet the latter could essentially beat him the same exact way against itachi yet the uchiha is "inferior" to minato. seems like double standards.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

So rather than prove to me that minato can defeat itachi another way, you decide to post fanfic. sad

lol, its not my fault you didn't think unlimited stamina through. You're whole thread is based off fanfic from the first post and when i shove it back in your face you wanna complain. Kanye Shrug.

 

[sayian]

lol, its not my fault you didn't think unlimited stamina through. You're whole thread is based off fanfic from the first post and when i shove it back in your face you wanna complain. Kanye Shrug.

Lol explain why it's nonsense. the visual damage only triggers each time it's dojutsu techs are activated not as it remained stabilized. The overall point still remains, minato can't get pass susanoo, nor can his toads escapes amaterasu because he still has to physically tag the toad for it to be enabled to do so and his frog call isn't faster amat or ocular genjutsu. so it still comes down to just a stalemate. minato isn't superior.

 

[Booker]

Nope




I thought it was too until I realized 90% of minato's versus fights were nothing but that lol.




doesn't dms obito have quicker reaction?

Probably. But DMS Obito is already marked by Minato so Minato starts with a huge advantage.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol explain why it's nonsense. the visual damage only triggers each time it's dojutsu techs are activated not as it remained stabilized. The overall point still remains, minato can't get pass susanoo, nor can his toads escapes amaterasu because he still has to physically tag the toad for it to be enabled to do so and his frog call isn't faster amat or ocular genjutsu. so it still comes down to just a stalemate. minato isn't superior.

Sasuke begs to differ, Itachi begs to differ, obito begs to differ:

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nothing about repeated use. Just use in general.

frog song gets past susanno (or ftg but that's another topic for another day)

He already escaped ama

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Tagging toads is by no means difficult since he's the one summoning them. Logically they are tagged upon summon

 

[The Messiah]

So rather than prove to me that minato can defeat itachi another way, you decide to post fanfic. sad



I disagree, should a character really be "superior" to said character if the only way he can win is simply just avoid? I think it's ridiculous. where do I cross the line when people put 8th gate gai above minato yet the latter could essentially beat him the same exact way against itachi yet the uchiha is "inferior" to minato. seems like double standards.

A win is a win. That simple.

 

[sayian]

Sasuke begs to differ, Itachi begs to differ, obito begs to differ:

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nothing about repeated use. Just use in general.

frog song gets past susanno (or ftg but that's another topic for another day)

He already escaped ama

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Tagging toads is by no means difficult since he's the one summoning them. Logically they are tagged upon summon

No, you simply just post panels and not comprehend it. tobi's statment is from overusing susanoo by the amount of times sasuke activated susanoo, not how long he maintained susanoo. Your logic would only be correct if for some odd reason itachi decided to turn off-on his mangekyou and susanoo several times repeatedly in the course of the battle which obviously he wouldn't especially with unlimited stamina that basically nulls the point to the side effects of susanoo and therefore defeats the only win condition minato had against itachi or any relevantly strong character for that matter.

Using kurama cloak to defend alive minato? lol ok


He isn't using frog call against itachi, maybe if he hid far away in a favorable terrain like jiraiya to summon them then cast it, I guess. But let's not sit here and forget that the only reason it worked as perfectly as it did was because nagato wasn't proficient at genjutsu nor likely predict the least likely person to cast gen in the first place (jiraiya) and even then, minato would need to be in SM with them molded onto him to pull it off successfully if wants to protect the frogs so they can cast it, and that's if they actually aim for the right itachi since he has plentiful of clones to counter or fool it.

A win is a win. That simple.

Fine, but for now on we label it as a win of technicality, not superiority.
- Gai
- itachi
- Ay
- 3rd raikage
- most susanoo user tbh
- onoki
etc