Sakura Uchiha and Hinata Hyuga?

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Reacting to something far away is irrelevant to reacting in CQC. This is literally common sense that applies to real life as well

Sakura summons Katsuyu, wins mid-diff or she punches the ground and Hinata is killed by the shockwave or debris.
 

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Sakura summons Katsuyu, wins mid-diff or she punches the ground and Hinata is killed by the shockwave or debris.

Sakura wins w/ Katsuyu, I've always held that possesion, mostly because Katsuyu would act as nothing more than a distraction which would likely be enough for Sakura to win. Then again, I'm talking a 1 vs 1 here, So no Katsuyu.

No, pal. That punch is avoided in many ways by Hinata.

We saw that Sakura first needs to build momentum by jumping super high and then falling down to punch the ground, meaning she first needs to jump and fall down in order to do it.

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Last I recall, Ninjas can only increase the height of their jumps with Chakra, while they simply end up falling at normal, real-life speed. Shown above, Naruto was left completely defenseless when falling, needing to be saved by Sasuke. As is the case, this would give Hinata ample enough time to intercept Sakura while she is falling down and blast her with an Air Palm in mid-air, ending the momentum she’d need to create this technique and damaging her organs.

Not only that, but plenty, PLENTY of Juubi Clones survived the attack, nearly killing Sakura due to her not being able to see through the dust cloud that followed. Considering Hinata survived a point-black Almighty Push then got stabbed, yet STILL managed to remain conscious for some time, a few rocks and stones will not be enough to knock her out completely.

Hinata also has the alternative option of simply avoiding the attack like any sane ninja would by jumping. Here, we see the Juubi fire its Juubi Bomb at Naruto, Bee, Gai and Kakashi. We see that Naruto is front-center, Kakasho/Gai behind and to his right, and Bee behind to his left, and all are facing towards the Juubi.

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The dust cloud made as a result of the attack is thus to the right of Naruto, evidenced by Gai and Kakashi’s presence.

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Meaning here, the red is Naruto, the blue is Kakashi/Gai, and the yellow is Bee.

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And what we see next is Hinata and a million other Shinobi falling from the sky, despite not being on panel when we got the above zoom-out shot. Meaning they were at least some 50 m up high at that point. Then there’s the fact that Ino took control of the Juubi for some 2 seconds, so that’s likely an addition 10 m or so considering they’d still be falling while she was doing so. Meaning her mountain crushing attack can be avoided by literally ANYONE who is capable of jumping.

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Take into consideration her Byakugan, which will allow her to see through the dust cloud, and Sakura will only be putting herself in a bad situation with this technique as it does nothing but work to Hinata’s advantage.

As if we’ve ever actually seen the debris be any sort of problem to anyone. No scan shows any of the debris from Sakura’s punches being powerful enough to even graze or knock out an opponent, let alone kill them.

In fact, I’d argue that Sakura puts herself more at risk than with Hinata. We saw her get knocked out just by hitting her head against a a wooden bridge, yet Hinata takes a point blank Almighty Push which causes the solid earth beneath her to blast upwards, yet she’s still conscious. If anyone is in a threat of getting knocked out by flying rocks, its Sakura.
 

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Sakura wins w/ Katsuyu, I've always held that possesion, mostly because Katsuyu would act as nothing more than a distraction which would likely be enough for Sakura to win. Then again, I'm talking a 1 vs 1 here, So no Katsuyu.

No, pal. That punch is avoided in many ways by Hinata.

We saw that Sakura first needs to build momentum by jumping super high and then falling down to punch the ground, meaning she first needs to jump and fall down in order to do it.

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Last I recall, Ninjas can only increase the height of their jumps with Chakra, while they simply end up falling at normal, real-life speed. Shown above, Naruto was left completely defenseless when falling, needing to be saved by Sasuke. As is the case, this would give Hinata ample enough time to intercept Sakura while she is falling down and blast her with an Air Palm in mid-air, ending the momentum she’d need to create this technique and damaging her organs.

Not only that, but plenty, PLENTY of Juubi Clones survived the attack, nearly killing Sakura due to her not being able to see through the dust cloud that followed. Considering Hinata survived a point-black Almighty Push then got stabbed, yet STILL managed to remain conscious for some time, a few rocks and stones will not be enough to knock her out completely.

Hinata also has the alternative option of simply avoiding the attack like any sane ninja would by jumping. Here, we see the Juubi fire its Juubi Bomb at Naruto, Bee, Gai and Kakashi. We see that Naruto is front-center, Kakasho/Gai behind and to his right, and Bee behind to his left, and all are facing towards the Juubi.

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The dust cloud made as a result of the attack is thus to the right of Naruto, evidenced by Gai and Kakashi’s presence.

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Meaning here, the red is Naruto, the blue is Kakashi/Gai, and the yellow is Bee.

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And what we see next is Hinata and a million other Shinobi falling from the sky, despite not being on panel when we got the above zoom-out shot. Meaning they were at least some 50 m up high at that point. Then there’s the fact that Ino took control of the Juubi for some 2 seconds, so that’s likely an addition 10 m or so considering they’d still be falling while she was doing so. Meaning her mountain crushing attack can be avoided by literally ANYONE who is capable of jumping.

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Take into consideration her Byakugan, which will allow her to see through the dust cloud, and Sakura will only be putting herself in a bad situation with this technique as it does nothing but work to Hinata’s advantage.

As if we’ve ever actually seen the debris be any sort of problem to anyone. No scan shows any of the debris from Sakura’s punches being powerful enough to even graze or knock out an opponent, let alone kill them.

In fact, I’d argue that Sakura puts herself more at risk than with Hinata. We saw her get knocked out just by hitting her head against a a wooden bridge, yet Hinata takes a point blank Almighty Push which causes the solid earth beneath her to blast upwards, yet she’s still conscious. If anyone is in a threat of getting knocked out by flying rocks, its Sakura.
:lol you know why your post is so funny? you have gone on a rant about other shinobis feats and claiming hinata can do the same thing. i mean naruto, bee, kakashi, gai?? really?? all four outclass the fuq out of hinata(of all people) in anything speed related. what you should be doing is showing hinatas speed feats to support the claim that she can avoid the AOE of sakuras punch, not using feats of ninjas far above her level. you are really funny tbh
 

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Sakura got owned by Omoi, couldn't even see the Juubi getting absorbed unlike Hinata, which provess better eyes, 64 Palms proves better reflexes, taijutsu, and precision, the Last proves more Chakra, and Sakura's linear attacks have already been confirmed to be fodder for anyone with even a shred of skill in taijutsu.

Only in your dream will she beat a Six Paths Priestess. :sigar:

Hinata has never won a fight stfu
 

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Hinata has never won a fight stfu

Doesn't change the fact that she'd still paste Sakura, who's in the same boat as her anyways. It really me amazes how you can't comprehend the fact that winning or losing fights doesn't always have correlation with a person's feats, especially when every person they fought was way superior to them and everyone ELSE around them as well at the time.

:lol you know why your post is so funny? you have gone on a rant about other shinobis feats and claiming hinata can do the same thing. i mean naruto, bee, kakashi, gai?? really?? all four outclass the fuq out of hinata(of all people) in anything speed related. what you should be doing is showing hinatas speed feats to support the claim that she can avoid the AOE of sakuras punch, not using feats of ninjas far above her level. you are really funny tbh

Nah, I don't see the joke in my post. But I can tell you why your post is so funny: You have gone on a rant about my post yet nothing you said had anything to do with what I said, which tells me you just looked at the panels and went from there. You are really funny tbh
 

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Doesn't change the fact that she'd still paste Sakura, who's in the same boat as her anyways. It really me amazes how you can't comprehend the fact that winning or losing fights doesn't always have correlation with a person's feats, especially when every person they fought was way superior to them and everyone ELSE around them as well at the time.



Nah, I don't see the joke in my post. But I can tell you why your post is so funny: You have gone on a rant about my post yet nothing you said had anything to do with what I said, which tells me you just looked at the panels and went from there. You are really funny tbh

Everyone is superior to Hinata in combat because she can't fight! Her best feat is having naruto children. Outside of that she's useless. Useless in combat, useless in strategy, useless in gentle fist, useless as a hyuuga, she's just flat out useless with terrible feats to match her uselessness.

You seem to like to compare her to sakura so let's compare

sakura healed SA
sakura saved naruto life
sakura beat sasori with assistance from chiyo
sakura helped seal Kaguya
sakura can summon
sakura can store chakra for years CES
sakura strength is top 5 in konaha
sakura is the best medic since tsunade retired
sakura amped obito chakra to use kamui to save Sasuke

Hinata got soloed by a rock, 6 yr old, cousin, pein effortlessly.

Gfg sakura would destroy Hinata like I did you

Until I solo you again bye :sakura:
 

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Everyone is superior to Hinata in combat because she can't fight!

That's blatantly not true of someone who made it to Chunnin, mastered the Jyuken style, learned 64 Palms, TLF, Air Palm, and gained Rikudo Chakra.
Her best feat is having naruto children.

Considering you ignore everything else, I can't really argue against this until you stop denying facts.

Outside of that she's useless.

Saving the planet and alliance twice is apparently useless.
Useless in combat

64 Palms.

useless in strategy

That's why she and Ino redirected the Juubi's attack.

useless in gentle fist

64 Palms and TLF.

useless as a hyuuga

lol What does that even mean?
You seem to like to compare her to sakura so let's compare

sakura healed SA

Irrelevant in a fight.

sakura saved naruto life

Irrelevant in a fight.
sakura beat sasori with assistance from chiyo

Other way around. And by a long shot at that. Sakura was on the same tier as a beefed-up puppet for 90% of the fight. The fact that you'd even claim Sakura beat Sasori w/ Chiyo's assistance shows how bias or ignorant you are.

sakura helped seal Kaguya

Irrelevant in a fight.
sakura can summon
Already acknowledged.

sakura can store chakra for years CES

Cool. Means nothing when her strength depends on Chakra which Hinata can block off.

sakura strength is top 5 in konaha
Cool. Means nothing when her strength depends on Chakra which Hinata can block off.

sakura is the best medic since tsunade retired
Irrelevant in a fight. Also nice to see the best medic can't even save her daughter from bad eyesight.

sakura amped obito chakra to use kamui to save Sasuke
Irrelevant in a fight.
Hinata got soloed by a rock, 6 yr old, cousin, pein effortlessly.

What rock?

Filler.

Same dude who beat Kakashi and Naruto without even trying XD

Gfg sakura would destroy Hinata like I did you

And yet, like any Sakura fan, no points brought up as to exactly how Sakura beats Hinata and just claiming she does just because while acting all high and mighty.

btw mind if I ask you something?
 

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That's blatantly not true of someone who made it to Chunnin, mastered the Jyuken style, learned 64 Palms, TLF, Air Palm, and gained Rikudo Chakra.


Considering you ignore everything else, I can't really argue against this until you stop denying facts.



Saving the planet and alliance twice is apparently useless.


64 Palms.



That's why she and Ino redirected the Juubi's attack.



64 Palms and TLF.



lol What does that even mean?


Irrelevant in a fight.



Irrelevant in a fight.


Other way around. And by a long shot at that. Sakura was on the same tier as a beefed-up puppet for 90% of the fight. The fact that you'd even claim Sakura beat Sasori w/ Chiyo's assistance shows how bias or ignorant you are.



Irrelevant in a fight.

Already acknowledged.



Cool. Means nothing when her strength depends on Chakra which Hinata can block off.


Cool. Means nothing when her strength depends on Chakra which Hinata can block off.


Irrelevant in a fight. Also nice to see the best medic can't even save her daughter from bad eyesight.


Irrelevant in a fight.


What rock?

Filler.

Same dude who beat Kakashi and Naruto without even trying XD



And yet, like any Sakura fan, no points brought up as to exactly how Sakura beats Hinata and just claiming she does just because while acting all high and mighty.

btw mind if I ask you something?

The amount of fail+fanfic in this is terrible. Annnnnd Hinata has no counter for katsuyu so she losses..... again. You suck at this debating thing
 

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The amount of fail+fanfic in this is terrible. Annnnnd Hinata has no counter for katsuyu so she losses..... again. You suck at this debating thing

Can't Hinata just hurt Ketsuyu with Jykken or an air palm? And how does LB suck at debating when she's been using mangafacts this whole time?

:wut:
 
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Can't Hinata just hurt Ketsuyu with Jykken or an air palm? And how does LB suck at debating when she's been using mangafacts this whole time?

:wut:

lmao if iflow even read my posts instead of bringing up irrelevant, LITERAL filler and manga-contradicting arguments and going on his mindless rants, he'd see that I already said Sakura w/ Katsuyu beats Hinata.

All Sakura fans are like this when it comes to arguing Sakura VS Hinata: They fap her super strength and super-mundane taijutsu, mock and insult Hinata and her fans, all while providing no arguments for any of the very clear counters Hinata has to Sakura and denying the abilities Hinata has like Rikudo Chakra enhancements.

To this day, I haven't heard from a single Sakura fan how she can handle Air Palm's blunt force when Sakura has canonically shown to literally get knocked out cold by much weaker shock waves.
 

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Awesome, a continuing debate of 2 characters who get along and have no rivalry or conflict at all!
 

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Can't Hinata just hurt Ketsuyu with Jykken or an air palm? And how does LB suck at debating when she's been using mangafacts this whole time?

:wut:

When has fanfic been consider manga facts? LB uses his/her imagination to create bullshit. And katsuyu and rebuild herself acid gf Hinata dies along with any attack sakura comes at her with. Hinata has no speed feat, no high level or even mid level taijutsu feat. She's loses at everything. Her only successful attack landed was on a giant juubi hand And hanabi who was 6
 

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When has fanfic been consider manga facts? LB uses his/her imagination to create bullshit.
You mind telling me how dense you are that you'd accuse me of this all while saying Hinata sucks at Jyuken, was never useful, and has no combat skills?
And katsuyu and rebuild herself acid gf Hinata dies
Already settled this point. Stop bringing it up.

along with any attack sakura comes at her with

It's a crying shame those attacks are linear and thus very predictable for Hinata's eyes and masterful skill in Jyuken and far more dynamic fighting style, a point mentioned by Lee.

Haven't you noticed how Sakura takes the exact same pose every time, a pose wherein she literally leaves herself/her body wide open for counter attacks as Omoi so kindly demonstrated?

Hinata has no speed feat

Must be why she arrived to Naruto/Obito's location first, right?

Also, it's been said more Chakra means more speed, and Hinata's Chakra > Sakura's as shown in The Last. Meaning Hinata is faster than her based on this.

And besides, foot speed doesn't matter to Hinata when all she needs to do is keep track of Sakura w/ her eyes and counter with her superior taijutsu, just as Neji, who is inferior to Lee/Kidomaru in speed at the time, did.

She can stay completely still and wait for Sakura to approach instead.

And if Sakura refuses to approach, Air Palm.

no high level or even mid level taijutsu feat.

Being able to hit the Chakra Points, let alone using the 64 Palms, which is a high-speed combo of the Jyuken, is already a huge testament to her taijutsu skill as the manga even notes this.

That, and the Last very easily showed her taijutsu is very dynamic, moreso than Sakura's.

She's loses at everything.

And yet I still see no, I repeat, no feats from Sakura or any arguments as to why Hinata loses to Sakura in everything.

Her only successful attack landed was on a giant juubi hand

Of course. A hand of a Planet-destroyer that was rushing at her full force at high speeds, yet she managed to react w/o Byakugan and send it flying.

Funny thing is, that one feat TRULY is all it would take for Hinata to beat Sakura :lol

If Hinata were to use such a powerful attack on Sakura, she would be knocked away, causing her to collide with whatever environmental objects or buildings that may be around, in turn causing her to get knocked out and pass out, assuming the blunt force trauma of Air Palm alone already doesn't knock her out, as we see that Sakura is very poor at tanking blunt force like the Air Palm. Also notice how she falls on her rear before her head hits the bridge, meaning the force was even lessened before she hit her head, yet that was enough to knock her out.

And considering the Air Palm is an invisible, fast attack that is noted in the Databook for connecting with opponents before they can even realize they are hit, this means Sakura would fail to dodge it since she wouldn't see nor can she anticipate it since Hinata's striking speed is super fast.

Not to mention Hinata doesn't even need to thrust her arm outwards in order to use Air Palm, as we already saw her arm extended BEFORE she released Air Palm against the Juubi, meaning she can release Air Palm at will without necassarily thrusting her hand forward first. So Sakura can't even anticipate Air Palm by seeing Hinata thrust her hand forward because Hinata can use Air Palm w.o doing so. Thus there is no way she can see it coming or even guess/estimate. Especially with her reflex feats being so ... poor and inferior to Hinata's. Couldn't even avoid a Juubi Clone.

Following Sakura getting knocked out, Hinata spends her casual time mashing her body into a pile of pink waste.

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And hanabi who was 6

Still filler.
 
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You mind telling me how dense you are that you'd accuse me of this all while saying Hinata sucks at Jyuken, was never useful, and has no combat skills?

Already settled this point. Stop bringing it up.



It's a crying shame those attacks are linear and thus very predictable for Hinata's eyes and masterful skill in Jyuken and far more dynamic fighting style, a point mentioned by Lee.

Haven't you noticed how Sakura takes the exact same pose every time, a pose wherein she literally leaves herself/her body wide open for counter attacks as Omoi so kindly demonstrated?



Must be why she arrived to Naruto/Obito's location first, right?

Also, it's been said more Chakra means more speed, and Hinata's Chakra > Sakura's as shown in The Last. Meaning Hinata is faster than her based on this.

And besides, foot speed doesn't matter to Hinata when all she needs to do is keep track of Sakura w/ her eyes and counter with her superior taijutsu, just as Neji, who is inferior to Lee/Kidomaru in speed at the time, did.

She can stay completely still and wait for Sakura to approach instead.

And if Sakura refuses to approach, Air Palm.



Being able to hit the Chakra Points, let alone using the 64 Palms, which is a high-speed combo of the Jyuken, is already a huge testament to her taijutsu skill as the manga even notes this.

That, and the Last very easily showed her taijutsu is very dynamic, moreso than Sakura's.



And yet I still see no, I repeat, no feats from Sakura or any arguments as to why Hinata loses to Sakura in everything.



Of course. A hand of a Planet-destroyer that was rushing at her full force at high speeds, yet she managed to react w/o Byakugan and send it flying.

Funny thing is, that one feat TRULY is all it would take for Hinata to beat Sakura :lol

If Hinata were to use such a powerful attack on Sakura, she would be knocked away, causing her to collide with whatever environmental objects or buildings that may be around, in turn causing her to get knocked out and pass out, assuming the blunt force trauma of Air Palm alone already doesn't knock her out, as we see that Sakura is very poor at tanking blunt force like the Air Palm. Also notice how she falls on her rear before her head hits the bridge, meaning the force was even lessened before she hit her head, yet that was enough to knock her out.

And considering the Air Palm is an invisible, fast attack that is noted in the Databook for connecting with opponents before they can even realize they are hit, this means Sakura would fail to dodge it since she wouldn't see nor can she anticipate it since Hinata's striking speed is super fast.

Not to mention Hinata doesn't even need to thrust her arm outwards in order to use Air Palm, as we already saw her arm extended BEFORE she released Air Palm against the Juubi, meaning she can release Air Palm at will without necassarily thrusting her hand forward first. So Sakura can't even anticipate Air Palm by seeing Hinata thrust her hand forward because Hinata can use Air Palm w.o doing so. Thus there is no way she can see it coming or even guess/estimate. Especially with her reflex feats being so ... poor and inferior to Hinata's. Couldn't even avoid a Juubi Clone.

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Still filler.

I soloed you so much in this thread i thought you'd learn by now. But clearly I was wrong. Name me 20 character Hinata can beat in a 1v1 that's jounin level or higher?
 

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Well Hinata probably kept the Hyuga surname because it's a noble clan name. Much like when actors marry the wife doesn't change her last name due to notariety.

With Sakura, Haruno is a family surname of little importance not a clan name.The Uchiha is/was a noble name so when she married in she took the Uchiha name.

I think something was released in McDonald (I believe) where they had all the important characters (uzumaki and uchiha family only). There they had Uchiha Sakura and Uzumaki Hinata.

Also, since Hanabi inherits leadership of the Hyuga clan, Hinata kind of free to take the surname of Uzumaki.
 

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I soloed you so much in this thread i thought you'd learn by now. But clearly I was wrong. Name me 20 character Hinata can beat in a 1v1 that's jounin level or higher?

Whether Hinata beats 20 Jonin level shinobi is irrelevant to what we were talking about before.

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>Sakura can't handle blunt force and has never shown durability feats.
>Air Palm is blunt force combined with the precision of Byakugan.
>30% Kisame forced Gai into 6th Gate in order to defeat him.
>Neji's Air Palm was fast enough to strike 30% Kisame w/o him being able to react.
>Hinata's Air Palm is on par or surpasses Neji's due to the two using Air Wall Palm together and Hinata now having Rikudo Chakra, meaning she can replicate the feat she did against the Juubi's hand.

Conclusion: Hinata turns her into a pink pile of goop.
 

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Sakura is way stronger than Hinata. But, Sakura Uchiha? Let's not taint the name of the God Tree's direct descendants. Let's not.
 
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