[Discussion] Why is Smoothie so lazy?

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She's done basically nothing so far.

She didn't try to stop Brook from copying the Poneglyphs and she just stood there until Big Mom showed up. It has been three chapters since the SHs interrupted the wedding and she has still done nothing so far. Hell, during this chapter, she was telling other people to stop Capone, even though she was close by and she's BM's 2nd strongest subordinate.

I don't get why Oda hasn't done anything with her yet. He could have at least made her, instead of those no-name BM pirates, have a brief skirmish with Jinbe, or he could have showed her killing some fake Luffys.
 

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She's done basically nothing so far.

She didn't try to stop Brook from copying the Poneglyphs and she just stood there until Big Mom showed up. It has been three chapters since the SHs interrupted the wedding and she has still done nothing so far. Hell, during this chapter, she was telling other people to stop Capone, even though she was close by and she's BM's 2nd strongest subordinate.

I don't get why Oda hasn't done anything with her yet. He could have at least made her, instead of those no-name BM pirates, have a brief skirmish with Jinbe, or he could have showed her killing some fake Luffys.
When did it say she was the 2nd strongest? For all we know Cracker could be her best fighting sweet commander.
 

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Ain't we kinda caught up on the readers prespective and Katakuri's ability? I know Id be clueless for most of the time. She still managed to pin point the biggest threat, aka the picture with Luffy.
 

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Sometimes the readers on this site are so disappointing. I wonder how Oda would feel if he read threads like these. While Smoothie "doing nothing" may at first seem jarring, it's not really so much so when you step back and look at the bigger picture. Despite the fact that it's been numerous chapters since this all started, not that much time has actually passed in terms of in-universe, in-manga. The window to hurt Big Mom was only five seconds after all.

In an extremely short window of time, a ton of people have come out of the woodwork. They've thrown the party into chaos, destroyed the cake, and Mama is in a frenzy. There are all the Luffy copies running about causing utter confusion, Pudding's break down, and Sanji being more capable than they initially expected with him dodging the shots aimed at him. All of this happening in a relatively short period of time. The fact that so many chapters have passed and we're only now getting into Big Mom's scream is meant to show how condensed all this chaos has been time-wise.

The only person that has been acting so far has been Katakuri because he can catch glimpses of the future. While everyone is still trying to put the whole picture together, including Big Mom herself, Katakuri has a wider glimpse than everyone else. And even then, he's failed at every single turn. It's by itself pretty stupid to be asking why others like Smoothie aren't doing anything in this super chaotic and confusing situation when the guy with the clearest picture is having a hard time keeping up with everything. Shooting Sanji, intercepting Luffy, stopping the picture from being smashed, nothing has gone Katakuri's way.

While Katakuri has known about the picture plot since a few chapters ago, it's only this chapter that the others have seen that picture(no pun intended)(a picture Katakuri had the benefit of seeing a while ago, which is why he could TRY to act before everyone else has). The problem now, however, arises with the fact that while people like Smoothie now understand what's happening as well as Katakuri did when it all started thanks to his foresight, is that Big Mom's scream is happening. Smoothie CAN'T act because now that she understands what's happening, she has no choice but to protect herself against Big Mom's scream, hence why she called for someone closer to Luffy to do something.

It's rather unfair/nonsensical to keep asking "ERMAHGAWD, WHY ISN'T SMOOTHIE ACTING PROPERLY, KATAKURI IS TRYING" when

1. Smoothie only JUST got the information needed for her to act like Katakuri is, and has to focus on not being knocked out by Mama's scream

2. Katakuri got that information EARLY thanks to his foresight and STILL has ****ed up with his attempts.

There's also the fact that Big Mom has an unspoken rule of "KEEP OUT OF MY WAY BECAUSE THAT'S AN INSULT TO MY STRENGTH" going, which is probably why someone like Smoothie is keeping her distance so far
Katakuri and Smoothie have better portrayal. Even if they aren't stronger than Cracker (unlikely), they should still at least be at his level.
lmaooo she hasn't had any portrayal that says she's stronger than Cracker.
 
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Based on their individual bounties, Katakuri is the strongest, as he is worth over 1,057,000,000 Beri. Smoothie is next, at 932,000,000; and Cracker is 860,000,000. The Marines assign bounties based on perceived threat, such as how an 8-year old Nico Robin got an 78,000,000 bounty for simply knowing how to translate Poneglyphs, or how Kid and his crew are notorious for civilian casualties, but most bounties are still a good indicator of combat skill.

Regardless, Macho's point still stands. The most important thing Smoothie has done was popularize the Giraffe and Magma smoothies. She's either just being lazy, or saving her energy for a good fight (in other words, being lazy).
 

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Based on their individual bounties, Katakuri is the strongest, as he is worth over 1,057,000,000 Beri. Smoothie is next, at 932,000,000; and Cracker is 860,000,000. The Marines assign bounties based on perceived threat, such as how an 8-year old Nico Robin got an 78,000,000 bounty for simply knowing how to translate Poneglyphs, or how Kid and his crew are notorious for civilian casualties, but most bounties are still a good indicator of combat skill.

Regardless, Macho's point still stands. The most important thing Smoothie has done was popularize the Giraffe and Magma smoothies. She's either just being lazy, or saving her energy for a good fight (in other words, being lazy).
Not doing this bounty foolishness again.

Again, no, his point doesn't. This is a completely chaotic and turbulent situation breaking out in a super short window of time involving a person with a "Stay out of my way" rule. Now that the picture is clear to her, she has to deal with defending against Big Mom's scream, or be knocked out/weakened and unable to help anyways. It makes no sense to compare her to Katakuri because he has an advantage to this particular situation, and he's still failing. This isn't a "What is Smoothie" doing problem, this is a "What are the Big Mom pirates doing/going to do" situation, because this is ****ed for all of them.
 

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Sometimes the readers on this site are so disappointing. I wonder how Oda would feel if he read threads like these. While Smoothie "doing nothing" may at first seem jarring, it's not really so much so when you step back and look at the bigger picture. Despite the fact that it's been numerous chapters since this all started, not that much time has actually passed in terms of in-universe, in-manga. The window to hurt Big Mom was only five seconds after all.

In an extremely short window of time, a ton of people have come out of the woodwork. They've thrown the party into chaos, destroyed the cake, and Mama is in a frenzy. There are all the Luffy copies running about causing utter confusion, Pudding's break down, and Sanji being more capable than they initially expected with him dodging the shots aimed at him. All of this happening in a relatively short period of time. The fact that so many chapters have passed and we're only now getting into Big Mom's scream is meant to show how condensed all this chaos has been time-wise.

The only person that has been acting so far has been Katakuri because he can catch glimpses of the future. While everyone is still trying to put the whole picture together, including Big Mom herself, Katakuri has a wider glimpse than everyone else. And even then, he's failed at every single turn. It's by itself pretty stupid to be asking why others like Smoothie aren't doing anything in this super chaotic and confusing situation when the guy with the clearest picture is having a hard time keeping up with everything. Shooting Sanji, intercepting Luffy, stopping the picture from being smashed, nothing has gone Katakuri's way.

While Katakuri has known about the picture plot since a few chapters ago, it's only this chapter that the others have seen that picture(no pun intended)(a picture Katakuri had the benefit of seeing a while ago, which is why he could TRY to act before everyone else has). The problem now, however, arises with the fact that while people like Smoothie now understand what's happening as well as Katakuri did when it all started thanks to his foresight, is that Big Mom's scream is happening. Smoothie CAN'T act because now that she understands what's happening, she has no choice but to protect herself against Big Mom's scream, hence why she called for someone closer to Luffy to do something.

It's rather unfair/nonsensical to keep asking "ERMAHGAWD, WHY ISN'T SMOOTHIE ACTING PROPERLY, KATAKURI IS TRYING" when

1. Smoothie only JUST got the information needed for her to act like Katakuri is, and has to focus on not being knocked out by Mama's scream

2. Katakuri got that information EARLY thanks to his foresight and STILL has ****ed up with his attempts.

There's also the fact that Big Mom has an unspoken rule of "KEEP OUT OF MY WAY BECAUSE THAT'S AN INSULT TO MY STRENGTH" going, which is probably why someone like Smoothie is keeping her distance so far


lmaooo she hasn't had any portrayal that says she's stronger than Cracker.

Do you mean 5 seconds since the SHs appeared? If so, that is clearly not the case since it has been much more than 5 seconds since then.

Yes it is true that a normal person wouldn't be able to properly react to a lot of unexpected changes in a short period of time, but Smoothie is not a normal person. She is an elite fighter who is one of the strongest fighters in a Yonko crew. She should be able to quickly react.

Big Mom only gets mad at her kids when they interrupt her fights. She only got mad at Katakuri because she was about to directly fight Luffy, and she didn't get mad at Daifuku or Oven for fighting Sanji and Pedro. So there was nothing stopping her from helping Daifuku and Oven or fighting Luffy clones.

Katakuri actually did stop the SHs first attempt to smash the picture. He just failed to stop their 2nd attempt and he failed to stop them from showing it to BM. I wouldn't put much blame on him though since none of his crewmates came to help him.

Smoothie's bounty gives her a better portrayal than Cracker. Strength does play a role in bounties, and given that both of them have been pirates for about the same amount of time and nothing suggests that Smoothie has some dangerous, non-combative ability (like Robin being able to read Poneglyphs), their bounties are likely an indicator that Smoothie is stronger.
 

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I still think that Nami (possibly along with Carrot and maybe Chopper) is going to fight Smoothie.. hell maybe Reiju might fight her..

Either way, I agree with what Howlett said, and I think that Oda is just saving Smoothie for her own main fight (regardless of who her opponent(s) turns out to be).. plus everything that's going on in the manga right now may be chapters for us, but only mere seconds/minutes for them.
 

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I'm beginning to think her powers would be overwhelming for the SHs, Oda is putting her in chill mode, toll the Vinsmokes are freed, or some potentially worth opponents show up.


In this "short" amount of time Prospero and the others managed to trap the Vinsmokes. Daifuku and Oven managed to spar with Pedro, Sanji and Jimbe
It's rather unfair/nonsensical to keep asking "ERMAHGAWD, WHY ISN'T SMOOTHIE ACTING PROPERLY, KATAKURI IS TRYING" when

1. Smoothie only JUST got the information needed for her to act like Katakuri is, and has to focus on not being knocked out by Mama's scream.
Nah, it's not only Katakuri, lot of characters were able to move and act during the period she was randomly missing.
I know most of the dialogue in the chapters don't count (time freezes, lol), but BM's dialogue with the cooks count,
Jimbe's betrayal dialogue also counts (something she witnessed).
After the picture was broken, a lot of fodders rushed towards Luffy, Jimbe was able to dispatch those he was fighting with and join up with Capone (against Katakuri).

She must be really slow at grasping the situation.
 

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Can't tell if this guy has a Smoothie grudge or a Smoothie fetish.

Either way it is getting a bit tiring, because you've been posting the exact same thing for 3 chapters now. Also your poneglyph situation was already tackled more than once. How about you just accept that Oda might have a different way of approaching things than you do.

You made this thread less than three weeks ago

Why is she just sitting there and doing nothing? Why is Katakuri the only BM subordinate that's doing anything?
since then you've been posting:

04-22-2017, 12:05 AM
What happened to Oven? Wasn't he fighting Pedro? Why is Smoothie still doing nothing?
04-22-2017, 12:21 AM
I wonder what Smoothie's real DF is, the Juice-Juice Fruit or the Mannequin-Mannequin Fruit?
05-01-2017, 01:54 PM
Smoothie is still doing nothing...
05-10-2017, 08:59 PM
Smoothie still doing nothing...
We get it dude, go obsess about her somewhere else but not here. Enough threads and posts now. It's getting a bit sad, that you feel the need to moan about a character you want to see because she hasn't been in the fight since the first second.
 

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Why everyone is so obsessed with smoothie?? No one actually thought that where is cracker at tea party? He is a sweet commander and of course he is needed In the party where everyone has planned to cross each other and have a fight with so called alias... Weird section instead of one piece section should I call it??
 

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Why everyone is so obsessed with smoothie?? No one actually thought that where is cracker at tea party? He is a sweet commander and of course he is needed In the party where everyone has planned to cross each other and have a fight with so called alias... Weird section instead of one piece section should I call it??
This is a little amusing.
Has cracker even recovered?
Do you even read OP, how many times has a KO'd villain return in the same arc?
 

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She is too strong for even Doflamingo tier characters with her only obstacle being a door. Katakuri is already too much for 4 high tiers/low top tiers by himself. If she intervened, it would be impossible for the alliance to do something. That's why Oda had to restrict her from being active in this tea party
 

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She is too strong for even Doflamingo tier characters with her only obstacle being a door. Katakuri is already too much for 4 high tiers/low top tiers by himself. If she intervened, it would be impossible for the alliance to do something. That's why Oda had to restrict her from being active in this tea party
You still clinging to that dumb door shit, huh?

This just in: Whitebeard is weak because he couldn't break a wall!
 
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