Ultimate evidence that Byakugan > Sharingan

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Eyes are nothing more than tools dependant on the user's power and skill. Same way Madara's fire style trumps mundane Water style from average ninjas. How many times must that be said?
This has again been told to you multiple times that if you want to establish superiority of a dojutsu compare 2 equivalent users on the same power scale to state which one is superior and not a god to someone who only has half of Sage Chakra. A bijuu susanoo for instance wouldnt have gotten demolished that easily. If Kaguya replicated the Perfect Susanoo it would be on a whole different level and more powerful than her Byakugan techniques
 
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If you want to establish superiority of a dojutsu compare 2 equivalent users on the same power scale to state which one is superior and not a god to someone who only has half of Sage Chakra. A bijuu susanoo for instance wouldnt have gotten demolished that easily.
Funny you say that when people are always comparing Sasuke/Madara/Obito to Neji/Hinata/Hiashi despite the latter trio being of lower power level.

If we're comparing the eye techniques alone, Byakugan has plenty, but not absolute, advantages over Sharingan abilities.

If Kaguya replicated the Perfect Susanoo it would be on a whole different level and more powerful than her Byakugan techniques
This statement based on what exactly?
 

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Funny you say that when people are always comparing Sasuke/Madara/Obito to Neji/Hinata/Hiashi despite the latter trio being of lower power level
They are brought up in response to Hyuuga fans constantly trolling in every thread. It would be pure stupidity to compare them to the Hyuugas and vice versa (which Hyuuga fans have also done in the past) and those who do either do so out of response to trolling which has been plenty in this subfora lately or just like to hate on Hyuugas in general

If we're comparing the eye techniques alone, Byakugan has plenty, but not absolute, advantages over Sharingan abilities.
This is how it goes. EMS>MS>3T>Byakugan. It is what it is and this isnt even debatable but what the manga potrays if you havent read it with purple tinted glasses

This statement based on what exactly?
Any oofensive attack by the entire Hyuuga clan put together cant come anywhere close to destroying a PS. A similar attack by Kaguya can demolish the Susanoo. So what would happen if Kaguya used a Susanoo?
 
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They are brought up in response to Hyuuga fans constantly trolling in every thread. It would be pure stupidity to compare them to the Hyuugas and vice versa (which Hyuuga fans have also done in the past) and those who do either do so out of response to trolling which has been plenty in this subfora lately or just like to hate on Hyuugas in general
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This is how it goes. EMS>MS>3T>Byakugan. It is what it is and this isnt even debatable but what the manga potrays if you havent read it with purple tinted glasses
How is this not debatable? Just because you say so?

Byakugan has plenty of advantages against MS, let alone a mere 3T Sharingan.

Rotation can counter Amaterasu. Even a Chakra Cocoon could.
Jyuken can destroy Chakra, so it can possibly counter Amaterasu as well and Susano'O.
Genjutsu, Tsukyomi, and Shisui's tech w/e it was called are all meaningless against Byakugan.
Byakugan provides enhancements to users reflxes and sensory/tracking capabilities as well as seeing Chakra build up, so that in some ways counters Sharingan Precognition. Not to mention precog doesn't work on Chakra, so Air Palm, Chakra Fields, and OBB could still prove troublesome.
Any Ninjutsu learned by copying can be countered by Jyuken's chakra-destruction abiliites
Any genjutsu can be countered by closing one's eyes.
Any taijutsu can be countered by controlling an opponents momentum using a Chakra field and repelling attacks with OBB/Air Palm.
And Vacuum Attack can easily destroy Susano'O too.

Kamui is really the only un-counterable ability, and that's assuming the Byakugan user doesn't escape it like Deidara or get close enough to make Kamui pointless.

Any oofensive attack by the entire Hyuuga clan put together cant come anywhere close to destroying a PS. A similar attack by Kaguya can demolish the Susanoo. So what would happen if Kaguya used a Susanoo?
PS is made of Chakra. If the user can get in close, Jyuken can destroy it. Kaguya simply destroyed it from a distance.
 

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Welp you really do see the manga with purple tinted glasses. You guys carry on
Jyuken was said to destroy Chakra by flowing it into Chakra substances and destroying from within. Is Susano'O not a Chakra-made substance? Can a Byakugan user not physically touch Susnao'O? Where is the flaw in my reasoning here? I believe you should stop reading the manga with red tinted glasses for a change.
 

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I'd say the Infinite Tsukuyomi is arguably her most powerful attack, the only person able to block it was Sasuke. It was a Sharingan attack that solo'd the entire earth population, except for Sasuke, and the few Sasuke chose to save, with his SHARINGAN.
 

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I'd say the Infinite Tsukuyomi is arguably her most powerful attack, the only person able to block it was Sasuke. It was a Sharingan attack that solo'd the entire earth population, except for Sasuke, and the few Sasuke chose to save, with his SHARINGAN.
Infinite Tskuyomi is a sharingan technique?
 

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It's Rinne/Sharingan technique. The Rinnesharingan get's it's genjutsu properties from the Sharingan mixture, hence why I believe it should have been revealed that a Sharingan AND Rinnegan can resist it due to both combined making the Rinne-Sharingan.
Doesn't matter what you believe mate it is what it is. It's better this way Sharingan has already been wanted once to many times.
 

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Where was that said? And why do you dismiss Himawari using it after getting Byakugan? That alone pretty much confirms it is given by the Byakugan (Jyuken as a base ability I mean).
No, it doesn't. The Byakugan is needed to target the Tenketsu only, and that's why she only used it after awakening Byakugan, because she can't target Naruto's Tenketsu without it even if she were to try and use the Gentle Fist. There's not a thing in this Manga that states, hints or implies that Hyuga can release chakra from their bodies because they possess the Byakugan. Ao doesn't possess Hyuga clan abilities either.
 

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No, it doesn't. The Byakugan is needed to target the Tenketsu only, and that's why she only used it after awakening Byakugan, because she can't target Naruto's Tenketsu without it even if she were to try and use the Gentle Fist. There's not a thing in this Manga that states, hints or implies that Hyuga can release chakra from their bodies because they possess the Byakugan. Ao doesn't possess Hyuga clan abilities either.
You seem to know a lot about the hyuga, can you answer this question:
Why Hyuga' s chakra can render chakra made things useless?
 
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Why Hyuga' s chakra can render chakra made things useless?
Irrelevant to this discussion first of all. Second of all that's because of their Byakugan. Now I expect you to reply with some BS like:

"Ha!That means you need Byakugan to use Gentle Fist"

Then I'll just tell you that this doesn't refute the point of Byakugan not automatically granting the Hyuga the ability to release chakra from all over their bodies. Byakugan making it so that their chakra destroys chakra based substances=/=Byakugan giving them the ability to release said chakra.

Not even sure why I'm discussing any of this when my main original point was that Byakugan does not grant any abilities such as Rotation, something no one is contesting anymore. It's also funny you are still quoting me despite crying about my arguments being nothing but fanfic. :lol
 

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Irrelevant to this discussion first of all. Second of all that's because of their Byakugan. Now I expect you to reply with some BS like:

"Ha!That means you need Byakugan to use Gentle Fist"

Then I'll just tell you that this doesn't refute the point of Byakugan not automatically granting the Hyuga the ability to release chakra from all over their bodies. Byakugan making it so that their chakra destroys chakra based substances=/=Byakugan giving them the ability to release said chakra.

Not even sure why I'm discussing any of this when my main original point was that Byakugan does not grant any abilities such as Rotation, something no one is contesting anymore. It's also funny you are still quoting me despite crying about my arguments being nothing but fanfic. :lol
So you think chakra made things have chakra points?
 

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You said that it was because of the byakugan that hyuga chakra can render chakra made things useless.
That has nothing to do with chakra based substances having chakra points. What might happen is that the Byakugan provides some kind of new element to their chakra allowing it to destroy other chakra based substances when using Gentle Fist. Either that or some other explanation since Kishimoto put no more thought into it.
 
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