Ultimate evidence that Byakugan > Sharingan

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Sharingan actually grants abilities. Like Sasuke using Amaterasu despite literally no experience or practice with it.

Byakugon doesn't. Rotation and Gentle Fist just have fantastic Synergy with the Byakugon, which is why the Hyuga use them.

The ONLY ability that the Byakugon grants is the ability to fly.
 

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Kyguya all out gentle fist > Kaguya all out PS

Eighty gods is basically (as said in databook) OP version of Hyuga vacuum palm which is stated in previous databook as gentle fist technique.
Kaguyas attack is powered by her chakra. The databook only mentions that the Byakugan supplements that ability it doesn't derive from the byakugan itself.
 

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Kyguya all out gentle fist > Kaguya all out PS

Eighty gods is basically (as said in databook) OP version of Hyuga vacuum palm which is stated in previous databook as gentle fist technique.
Vacuum Palm was not ever stated to be Gentle Fist nor does it have Gentle Fist's abilities and that's why Kisame can take an Air Palm and not be injured at all. :lol Please don't recycle the same argument Hyuga fans have regurgitated all across this forum.

Especially since Naruto has already clashed w/ it using his chakra arms on multiple occassions and was just fine.

You just said Byakugan can't cut it against anything above 3T, yet Byakugan one-shotted EMS? :wut:
Because Kaguya is stronger than Sasuke, not because Byakugan is stronger than Sharingan, but of course I don't expect you delusional fanboys to come to term with these facts.



This is based on nothing but your own bias. Where's your proof that Kaguya w/ PS would be stronger than her canon self? Especially when PS is made of Chakra which Jyken can counter?
Go address the rest then. Oh wait, you can't. Because the overall point is true. Byakugan is not on par with Sharingan. That's why the only time Byakugan has ever triumphed over Sharingan is when the Byakugan user's overall strength and chakra was FAR beyond that of the Sharingan user's.

Uchiha fans always telling this to themselves to make themselves happy.

Gentle Fist was used two seconds after Himawari got Byakugan
Air Palm is called a KKG
Vacuum Attack is called a KKM
Rotation is called a KKG

TLF databook entry even says the Byakugan is needed to use it.
Lmao you are so pathetic. How does this address what I stated? These are the facts:

-Gentle Fist is a fighting style that revolves around expelling chakra from the body. The Hyuga can do this because that is their innate ability. Not because of the Byakugan.

-The targeting of Tenketsu is what Byakugan is needed for. Himawari is a shitty and irrelevant example because Himawari is of Hyuga blood, meaning THAT is why she can release chakra from her hands to close Tenketsu. The only thing Byakugan is needed for is the act of seeing said Tenketsu. The Byakugan didn't GIVE her the ability to flow chakra through her hands it gave her the ability to see the Tenketsu.

What the DB lists techniques as is completely irrelevant. Vacuum Attack is a Kekkei Mora yet you dishonestly leave out the fact that the entry explains HOW it's formed and it never once says Byakugan is needed to perform it. It says that Byakugan+This tech=Ultime offense. Air Palm is the same exact thing but weaker, also explained in the DB. Rotation is stated to be performed by Neji releasing chakra and spinning. Not because of the Byakugan. Delusional ass.



No where is it said the Hyuga's ability to use all Chakra Points is independant of their eyes, unless you can prove otherwise. In fact, it's outright said the Byakugan grants the high CC needed for things like TLF and Rotation, and Tenten notes the Rotation is achieved through mastering Jyuken, which, again, as we saw with Himawari, is connected to the Byakugan in the same way Amaterasu is connected to the Sharingan.
The Byakugan's abilities were outright stated, and it granting abilities like MS grants Susanoo and other techs was never stated or shown and it shall remain that way until you can support your points with some real evidence.

Byakugan literally has a damn thing to do w/ Chakra Control. Don't make stuff up. Dojutsu has never had a thing to do with chakra control. Hyuga are stated to HAVE that kind of chakra control INNATELY. Ao is a Byakugan user yet has not EVER displayed any kind of Gentle Fist abilities or anything of the sort. Wanna know why?

Because Byakugan IS NOT Sharingan and does NOT grant techs just by possessing the eye. Every single Byakugan related tech is a tech those Hyuga had to learn. Not debatable so just stop while you are behind.



Because Byakugan needs training to master it's attacks :lmao: what a poor argument.
Those aren't Byakugan abilities. :lmao: Try again. Lmao this clown. First you say Byakugan grants these abilities like MS grants Amaterasu but now you are saying that you need to train to master these attacks? Lmao even worse the Manga explicitly shows that you need to LEARN these techs, meaning that the Byakugan does NOT grant them. AT ALL. So cut the BS.
 
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Vacuum Palm was not ever stated to be Gentle Fist nor does it have Gentle Fist's abilities and that's why Kisame can take an Air Palm and not be injured at all. :lol Please don't recycle the same argument Hyuga fans have regurgitated all across this forum.



Because Kaguya is stronger than Sasuke, not because Byakugan is stronger than Sharingan, but of course I don't expect you delusional fanboys to come to term with these facts.





Go address the rest then. Oh wait, you can't. Because the overall point is true. Byakugan is not on par with Sharingan. That's why the only time Byakugan has ever triumphed over Sharingan is when the Byakugan user's overall strength and chakra was FAR beyond that of the Sharingan user's.



Lmao you are so pathetic. How does this address what I stated? These are the facts:

-Gentle Fist is a fighting style that revolves around expelling chakra from the body. The Hyuga can do this because they can expel chakra from their bodies. Not because of the Byakugan.

-The targeting of Tenketsu is what Byakugan is needed for. Himawari is a shitty and irrelevant example because Himawari is of Hyuga blood, meaning THAT is why she can release chakra from her hands to close Tenketsu. The only thing Byakugan is needed for is the act of seeing said Tenketsu. The Byakugan didn't GIVE her the ability to flow chakra through her hands it gave her the ability to see the Tenketsu.

What the DB lists techniques as is completely irrelevant. Vacuum Attack is a Kekkei Mora yet you dishonestly leave out the fact that the entry explains HOW it's formed and it never once says Byakugan is needed to perform it. It says that Byakugan+This tech=Ultime offense. Air Palm is the same exact thing but weaker, also explained in the DB. Rotation is stated to be performed by Neji releasing chakra and spinning. Not because of the Byakugan. Delusional ass.





The Byakugan's abilities were outright stated, and it granting abilities like MS grants Susanoo and other techs was never stated or shown and it shall remain that way until you can support your points with some real evidence.

Byakugan literally has a damn thing to do w/ Chakra Control. Don't make stuff up. Dojutsu has never had a thing to do with chakra control. Hyuga are stated to HAVE that kind of chakra control INNATELY. Ao is a Byakugan user yet has not EVER displayed any kind of Gentle Fist abilities or anything of the sort. Wanna know why?

Because Byakugan IS NOT Sharingan and does NOT grant techs just by possessing the eye. Every single Byakugan related tech is a tech those Hyuga had to learn. Not debatable so just stop while you are behind.





Those aren't Byakugan abilities. :lmao: Try again. Lmao this clown. First you say Byakugan grants these abilities like MS grants Amaterasu but now you are saying that you need to train to master these attacks? Lmao even worse the Manga explicitly shows that you need to LEARN these techs, meaning that the Byakugan does NOT grant them. AT ALL. So cut the BS.
One of the best responses I've seen yet.
 

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Sharingan actually grants abilities. Like Sasuke using Amaterasu despite literally no experience or practice with it.

Byakugon doesn't. Rotation and Gentle Fist just have fantastic Synergy with the Byakugon, which is why the Hyuga use them.

The ONLY ability that the Byakugon grants is the ability to fly.
Gentle Fist is a Taijutsu made to utilize the Hyuugas other KKG (that is usually forgotten)

to bring out chakra out of any chakra point in their body and to also manipulate/seal/destroy/and boost their own network or the network of a enemy/victim
 

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This dude is really out here making up shit about the Byakugan granting chakra control and granting the ability to use Rotation just how MS grants Amaterasu claiming "the Manga said so". Smh. How do you wank an entire clan day in and day out and not know how their abilities work?
 

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Vacuum Palm was not ever stated to be Gentle Fist nor does it have Gentle Fist's abilities and that's why Kisame can take an Air Palm and not be injured at all. :lol Please don't recycle the same argument Hyuga fans have regurgitated all across this forum.



Because Kaguya is stronger than Sasuke, not because Byakugan is stronger than Sharingan, but of course I don't expect you delusional fanboys to come to term with these facts.





Go address the rest then. Oh wait, you can't. Because the overall point is true. Byakugan is not on par with Sharingan. That's why the only time Byakugan has ever triumphed over Sharingan is when the Byakugan user's overall strength and chakra was FAR beyond that of the Sharingan user's.



Lmao you are so pathetic. How does this address what I stated? These are the facts:

-Gentle Fist is a fighting style that revolves around expelling chakra from the body. The Hyuga can do this because they can expel chakra from their bodies. Not because of the Byakugan.

-The targeting of Tenketsu is what Byakugan is needed for. Himawari is a shitty and irrelevant example because Himawari is of Hyuga blood, meaning THAT is why she can release chakra from her hands to close Tenketsu. The only thing Byakugan is needed for is the act of seeing said Tenketsu. The Byakugan didn't GIVE her the ability to flow chakra through her hands it gave her the ability to see the Tenketsu.

What the DB lists techniques as is completely irrelevant. Vacuum Attack is a Kekkei Mora yet you dishonestly leave out the fact that the entry explains HOW it's formed and it never once says Byakugan is needed to perform it. It says that Byakugan+This tech=Ultime offense. Air Palm is the same exact thing but weaker, also explained in the DB. Rotation is stated to be performed by Neji releasing chakra and spinning. Not because of the Byakugan. Delusional ass.





The Byakugan's abilities were outright stated, and it granting abilities like MS grants Susanoo and other techs was never stated or shown and it shall remain that way until you can support your points with some real evidence.

Byakugan literally has a damn thing to do w/ Chakra Control. Don't make stuff up. Dojutsu has never had a thing to do with chakra control. Hyuga are stated to HAVE that kind of chakra control INNATELY. Ao is a Byakugan user yet has not EVER displayed any kind of Gentle Fist abilities or anything of the sort. Wanna know why?

Because Byakugan IS NOT Sharingan and does NOT grant techs just by possessing the eye. Every single Byakugan related tech is a tech those Hyuga had to learn. Not debatable so just stop while you are behind.





Those aren't Byakugan abilities. :lmao: Try again. Lmao this clown. First you say Byakugan grants these abilities like MS grants Amaterasu but now you are saying that you need to train to master these attacks? Lmao even worse the Manga explicitly shows that you need to LEARN these techs, meaning that the Byakugan does NOT grant them. AT ALL. So cut the BS.
In databook 3 its said it has gentle fist.

Bold :

Gentle fist / Chakra control Hyuga have is immposible without Byakugan.Sharingan/Rinnegan can only see chakra while Byakugan can see literally everything (chakra network,chakra points, flow of chakra). Byakugan gives them knowledge they need to use gentle fist / have perfect chakra control only Hyuga have.

Its not Byakugan jutsu but its impossible without it, it doesn´t simply come innately.
 

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In databook 3 its said it has gentle fist.

Bold :

Gentle fist / Chakra control Hyuga have is immposible without Byakugan.Sharingan/Rinnegan can only see chakra while Byakugan can see literally everything (chakra network,chakra points, flow of chakra). Byakugan gives them knowledge they need to use gentle fist / have perfect chakra control only Hyuga have.

Its not Byakugan jutsu but its impossible without it, it doesn´t simply come innately.
No, it doesn't. Kisame got hit and took no damage. Meaning it's not Gentle Fist. Don't ignore what I'm saying.

No, it's not. The Byakugan has nothing to do with chakra control. The only thing it does is make it possible to target the Tenketsu. What I stated is that the ability to flow chakra is what is innate and that's fact. Byakugan simply lets them target properly.
 

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Kyguya all out gentle fist > Kaguya all out PS

Eighty gods is basically (as said in databook) OP version of Hyuga vacuum palm which is stated in previous databook as gentle fist technique.
Its not even a gentle fist , its a technique similar to this one , and because of the Byakugan she could find the weak spots of the Susano'o and break it.

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Its not even a gentle fist , its a technique similar to this one , and because of the Byakugan she could find the weak spots of the Susano'o and break it.

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it was vacuum palm formed into fist

akin to how Hinata can turn her fist into lions
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Vacuum Palm was not ever stated to be Gentle Fist nor does it have Gentle Fist's abilities and that's why Kisame can take an Air Palm and not be injured at all. :lol Please don't recycle the same argument Hyuga fans have regurgitated all across this forum.

Especially since Naruto has already clashed w/ it using his chakra arms on multiple occassions and was just fine.



Because Kaguya is stronger than Sasuke, not because Byakugan is stronger than Sharingan, but of course I don't expect you delusional fanboys to come to term with these facts.





Go address the rest then. Oh wait, you can't. Because the overall point is true. Byakugan is not on par with Sharingan. That's why the only time Byakugan has ever triumphed over Sharingan is when the Byakugan user's overall strength and chakra was FAR beyond that of the Sharingan user's.



Lmao you are so pathetic. How does this address what I stated? These are the facts:

-Gentle Fist is a fighting style that revolves around expelling chakra from the body. The Hyuga can do this because that is their innate ability. Not because of the Byakugan.

-The targeting of Tenketsu is what Byakugan is needed for. Himawari is a shitty and irrelevant example because Himawari is of Hyuga blood, meaning THAT is why she can release chakra from her hands to close Tenketsu. The only thing Byakugan is needed for is the act of seeing said Tenketsu. The Byakugan didn't GIVE her the ability to flow chakra through her hands it gave her the ability to see the Tenketsu.

What the DB lists techniques as is completely irrelevant. Vacuum Attack is a Kekkei Mora yet you dishonestly leave out the fact that the entry explains HOW it's formed and it never once says Byakugan is needed to perform it. It says that Byakugan+This tech=Ultime offense. Air Palm is the same exact thing but weaker, also explained in the DB. Rotation is stated to be performed by Neji releasing chakra and spinning. Not because of the Byakugan. Delusional ass.





The Byakugan's abilities were outright stated, and it granting abilities like MS grants Susanoo and other techs was never stated or shown and it shall remain that way until you can support your points with some real evidence.

Byakugan literally has a damn thing to do w/ Chakra Control. Don't make stuff up. Dojutsu has never had a thing to do with chakra control. Hyuga are stated to HAVE that kind of chakra control INNATELY. Ao is a Byakugan user yet has not EVER displayed any kind of Gentle Fist abilities or anything of the sort. Wanna know why?

Because Byakugan IS NOT Sharingan and does NOT grant techs just by possessing the eye. Every single Byakugan related tech is a tech those Hyuga had to learn. Not debatable so just stop while you are behind.





Those aren't Byakugan abilities. :lmao: Try again. Lmao this clown. First you say Byakugan grants these abilities like MS grants Amaterasu but now you are saying that you need to train to master these attacks? Lmao even worse the Manga explicitly shows that you need to LEARN these techs, meaning that the Byakugan does NOT grant them. AT ALL. So cut the BS.
I don' t see any proof that byakugan isn' t needed to use gentle fist...Why are you sure that it is the case?
 

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OK, I don' t see any proof that byakugan doesn' t grant gentle fist.
Then go read all that again or don't bother responding cause I'm not about to get into a circular argument with you or anyone else in this thread. I literally explained where Gentle Fist comes from and gave an example of a Byakugan user who can't use Gentle Fist. You simply are choosing not to read at this point.
 

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Then go read all that again or don't bother responding cause I'm not about to get into a circular argument with you or anyone else in this thread. I literally explained where Gentle Fist comes from and gave an example of a Byakugan user who can't use Gentle Fist. You simply are choosing not to read at this point.
Except you don' t know all the secrets of the hyuga clan.At this point, many things are possible.
For a proof, you need to show me a scan of someone using gentle fist without byakugans.
 

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I didn't say that. I said that Byakugan doesn't grant Gentle Fist.
Gentle Fist is a separate KKG from the Hyuga

If you have Hyuga genes and unlock the Byakugan you get the ability to do the Gentle Fist

as seen via Himawari

having it refined to add more moves and techs is based later via training the martial form

but the user of the said KKG could make their own Gentle fist moves as we saw throughout the series

people usually confuse the KKG of gentle fist with the martial art of Gentle Fist


I mean you can fight like if you had it like Boruto but it actually doing anything other then slapping and poking someone is based on using your bloodline Hyuga KKG
 
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Gentle Fist is a separate KKG from the Hyuga

If you have Hyuga genes and unlock the Byakugan you get the ability to do the Gentle Fist

as seen via Himawari

having it refined to add more moves and techs is based later via training the martial form

but the user of the said KKG could make their own Gentle fist moves as we saw throughout the series

people usually confuse the KKG of gentle fist with the martial art of Gentle Fist


I mean you can fight like if you had it like Boruto but it actually doing anything other then slapping and poking someone is based on using your bloodline Hyuga KKG
Agreed 100% 1 aspect is them flowing chakra through and out of any point in their bodies and the other aspect is the fighting style you described. Not sure why the others don't comprehend this.
 
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