DMS Obito vs Juubito

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That's why you should actually read before you reply. That statement is a direct response to the question of how Shinju counters Susanoo.
dude all u said was absorb chakra. whatever tho.



Juubito was never put in a position where his other version of Kamui failed. Stop using shitty ass logic. It doesn't take a genius to see which responses are stupid and which aren't. Gudo Dama shield or teleportation doesn't do anything to change his results. Kakashi's Susanoo went up against an attack and it was destroyed while he himself phased through it. If Susanoo could phase then he would've phased through that entire attack instead of letting his Susanoo be wrecked. :lol Especially since that's how Kamui works. When it's active the user phases through techniques. It was active, Susanoo was destroyed. Do the fucking math.
Bold is speculation at it finest.

-You have no feats.
-Your logic for why Susanoo can phase is trash.
-Kakashi's Susanoo canonically failed to phase.
My feats is him already applying it to other ninjutsu
My logic is completely sound based off of what was already shown
get the bold garbage outta here.

What points do you think you have? Because to anyone with a brain you have none whatsoever and are just arguing this point because you love the jutsu so much instead of just arguing because you have real evidence. Hilarious seeing this guy talk about "this is not proof that Susanoo can't phase". Lmao please for the love of God shut your dumbass up. There is no proof or convincing evidence in the first place that lets Susanoo phase.
except for the scans of kamui already being applied to ninjutsu but sure fam no scans because u say so, that part of the manga just doesn't exist anymore.




Go re-read that paragraph again and again until you grasp the real inhibiting factor you moronic twit. Hilarious this clown of ALL PEOPLE ON THIS SITE telling me not to be an idiot when reading in what seems to be a language he clearly understands well enough to communicate in is too much of a thing for me to ask of him.
This ****in clown. There is nothing stopping him from throwing them in ANY 4 directions. Ever. Throwing shuriken in multiple directions (whatever they may be) is shinobi 10 fuckin 1. Please up a fckin scan saying otherwise.



To prevent Juubito from intercepting the Shuriken he'll have to actually apply pressure not throw out any old jutsu like you are saying. :)lol) The goddamn Fireball jutsu is not applying pressure to the Jin. It can't even hurt him as he's too durable. That and he can easily evade ranged attacks

Lmao. This man really said fireball jutsu is going to apply pressure to the Jinchuuriki of the strongest Bijuu. This:

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Pressuring this guy:

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:lmao: This man really said GIANT FUCKING SHURIKEN ARE GOING TO PRESSURE THE JUUBI FUCKING JINCHUURIKI. I AM BEYOND DECEASED.
A rikudo obito using THIS:
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is pressuring a juubi jin, he cant sit there and take it since because it's rikudo it will burn him. He's gonna have to do something.
READ THE DAMN MANGA He got hurt by a fcking rasengan. frs didn't do anything cuz there's no sage chakra in it.

juubito was forced to block a toad's slime which has far less range, but for some reason you don't think a battlefield wide flame attack is doing anything -_- but be ignorant please its amusing. He's not doing it to hurt him he's doing it to stop him from targeting the kamui shuriken.

-Irrelevant in this scenario as Juubito being unable to anticipate it or react is based on nothing but this terrible logic you are trying to push.

-Stop pulling shit out of your ass please. Obito's Susanoo does not have the speed feats to escape the range of a Bijuu Dama.

-What are you talking about? If he waits till the very last moment DMS won't be able to target him w/ Kamui due to the initial stages of the blast. Then we have the fact that he can simply take cover behind the tree right before it goes off and cover up.
Irrelevant my ass, it still applies. he gets dms kakashi's speed feats, remember?

the hell are you talking about? u know how long it takes to charge the 4 bijudama? 2 full chapters. kakashi's susanoo outsped kaguya's rabbit arms.



I will ask this again. Are you stupid? Cause that's really all you are proving with these posts. That and the fact that you either don't read the Manga or you purposely misconstrue it's events thinking that I didn't also read the same Manga. :lol

She thought the original Naruto came in after her because of the rationale that his clones didn't have enough chakra to last. Nothing to do with Kamui.




On top of that BZ clearly says that more than one got inside, but the other 2 must've ran out of power and vanished. Hint hint: Other 2 refers to Sakura and Obito. Then we have the fact that Obito acknowledged already that she'd most likely sense them when they tried to enter.



The only reason they even entered successively is because Naruto was there drawing her attention combined with the fact that they are fodder in comparison to her.

Just read the fucking Manga man. :lol It'd save me a lot of time.
1. she noticed them the moment they showed up:


Idiot i'm not questioning her reasoning. Im saying, kamui was executed so fast that she thought they came in after her.

The reason they entered has nothing to with naruto. He's not slowing her S/T techniques down. It's just a testament to kamui's speed.

There are no old scans or new scans when it comes to this scenario.
youre joking right.Please tell me you're joking.

These are all from the same jutsu during the same exact time period. Nothing in that scan shows that Kaguya failed to notice Kamui meanwhile I have scans of slower characters doing more than noticing the jutsu. Naruto being slower than the orb is irrelevant because Naruto wasn't moving top speed.
Its not the same. Rikudo chakra buffs the technique -_-


If you'd take your head out of your ass for one second you'd realize that Sasuke and Naruto were moving through the air at the same speed, yet Naruto is far faster. :lol Meaning Naruto wasn't moving at top speed nor was the speed he was moving at faster than the orbs. If all you can do is blatantly ignore evidence presented by the opposition and twist Manga scans into your favor do yourself a favor and just stop replying.
What are you talking about sasuke's striking speed is comparable to naruto's and at the point that sasuke swapped with the killed clone he was within striking range.

If you're saying i can read the manga and i'm saying you can't read it then we should stop here. Done wasting my time with your.
 

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dude all u said was absorb chakra. whatever tho.
Smfh Learn2Read. Learn2Comprehend.


Bold is speculation at it finest.

My feats is him already applying it to other ninjutsu
My logic is completely sound based off of what was already shown
get the bold garbage outta here.
That's not speculation. That's fact. "Bold is speculation" isn't a rebuttal. It's your shitty and ever irrelevant opinion. If Susanoo could phase it would've phased with Kakashi instead of getting destroyed. Don't go brain dead when it comes to the detriments of your favorite technique when you wank this shit 24//7.

Obito being able to make objects such as his weapon in contact with him intangible has jack shit to do with him making Susanoo intangible. Susanoo is not a weapon. It's a jutsu. Susanoo is not the size of a weapon either. Fact of the matter is you have no feats, no real evidence and no proof at all. Meanwhile I have scans of Kakashi failing to have Susanoo phase through Kaguya's attack. Nothing more to discuss here.



This ****in clown. There is nothing stopping him from throwing them in ANY 4 directions. Ever. Throwing shuriken in multiple directions (whatever they may be) is shinobi 10 fuckin 1. Please up a fckin scan saying otherwise.
Go read that paragraph again and actually address what I'm saying, because this isn't a rebuttal to what I stated. Don't expect me to hold your hand and walk you through how to read and correctly comprehend 3-4 sentences big guy. :lol


A rikudo obito using THIS:
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is pressuring a juubi jin, he cant sit there and take it since because it's rikudo it will burn him. He's gonna have to do something.
READ THE DAMN MANGA He got hurt by a fcking rasengan. frs didn't do anything cuz there's no sage chakra in it.

juubito was forced to block a toad's slime which has far less range, but for some reason you don't think a battlefield wide flame attack is doing anything -_- but be ignorant please its amusing. He's not doing it to hurt him he's doing it to stop him from targeting the kamui shuriken.
:lol Are you stupid or something? The offensive power of that Katon is trash nor do you have any kind of evidence that shows it'll go from being tanked by KCM Naruto to hurting Juubito enough to prevent him from blocking Kamui Shuriken.

Lmaoo did this guy really just compare a Sage Mode Rasengan to a Katon? SM Rasengan>>Katon. Go show me this amazing Rikudo buff that makes that Katon worth talking about here or don't post on the topic. That simple. The range of the toad's slime is irrelevant. Who is discussing range here? We are discussing power, and the power of the jutsu isn't going to make him do shit nor will it force him to stop targeting Kamui Shuriken. What's even worse about this trash argument is that Obito can simply evade the Katon and target the Shuriken at the same time.

That Toad's slime is sticky. Obito didn't block it because that was his only option, he blocked it because it's better than getting covered and there's no reason to dodge when you can block it. Stop using shit logic. Lmao @ the bold: No fucking shit sherlock. :lol I bet you thought you had one didn't you?

Smh. Katon and Giant Shuriken used to pressure a Juubi's Jinchuuriki. Katon>SM Rasengan in raw power. Kamui too fast for Kaguya to notice let alone evade despite Madara and Kakashi noticing it. Susanoo can phase through objects? Is this a joke?


Irrelevant my ass, it still applies. he gets dms kakashi's speed feats, remember?
DMS Kakashi's speed feats have nothing to do with Juubito reacting to Kamui.

the hell are you talking about? u know how long it takes to charge the 4 bijudama? 2 full chapters. kakashi's susanoo outsped kaguya's rabbit arms.
"2 chapters" isn't a time measurement. :lol Try again. Charge time has nothing to do with Kakashi being fast enough to escape a far beyond multi Mountain Range sized blast. Try again.


1. she noticed them the moment they showed up:


Idiot i'm not questioning her reasoning. Im saying, kamui was executed so fast that she thought they came in after her.

The reason they entered has nothing to with naruto. He's not slowing her S/T techniques down. It's just a testament to kamui's speed.

youre joking right.Please tell me you're joking.

Its not the same. Rikudo chakra buffs the technique -_-
Your point? That has nothing to do with what I said. You really have a reading comprehension problem. I suggest you work on that.

-Her reasoning shows that she knew they entered her dimension. Meaning "Kamui is too fast to be noticed" is fanfiction perpetuated by you dumbass Kamui wankboys. First it was "regular Kamui is too fast for Obito w/ Sharingan and Rinnegan to see" now we've evolved to "Dual Kamui is too fast for Kaguya Ootsutsuki the strongest and fastest character to notice". :lol

-No, the bolded underlined never once happened. That's you making shit up like you do best. Read the Manga fanboy. BZ and Kaguya arrive and he clearly says that multiple people have ALREADY GOTTEN IN.

-Naruto slowing her techs down is irrelevant. Naruto drew her attention completely away from Obito. Obito himself has already stated that she'll sense them when they use Kamui to enter the dimension. ****ing wanker.

No. Stop making shit up. Rikudo chakra buffs the power of techniques because it adds stronger chakra. We've already seen what happens when a Kamui user gets stronger chakra to work with. The size of the objects they can warp goes up. Not the speed of the jutsu. The only thing that has ever made Kamui faster is both eyes being used at once.

-Madara noticed it.
-Kakashi noticed it.
-Obito said Kaguya would sense them.

So how about you stop being a fool who consistently argues against fact and makes stupid ass excuses like "old scans blah blah" when these supposed "old scans" are from the same exact time period. :lol They don't even contradict each other. You are just making pathetic excuses to avoid admitting that you are wrong.


What are you talking about sasuke's striking speed is comparable to naruto's and at the point that sasuke swapped with the killed clone he was within striking range.
*sigh* I'm not even going to pretend to understand what the hell you mean by bringing this up here. All I'm going to tell you is learn how to read.


If you're saying i can read the manga and i'm saying you can't read it then we should stop here. Done wasting my time with your.
No, if you are done here it's because you have nothing left to add on the matter. That simple. I have scans that back my point. You have incoherent babble like you ALWAYS DO. Why don't you try arguing with honesty instead of fangasming all over the place all of the time? Maybe then you'll have discussions that don't go in circles. Just food for thought. :lol
 
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