Kimmiaro is Kage Level

[Mellanoma]

Kimimaro doesn't wreck Tsunade or Mei not in this lifetime or the next. Bone Forest can't hurt her if she gets out of it's range, which she can do on foot or by propelling herself away with her enormous Suiton. Acid Mist destroys him. Regular Mist decreases his visibility. Suiton can be used to open him up for finishing hits from her Lava. A single punch from Tsunade is good game unless Kimimaro is more durable than Susanoo, and he's not.

Bold is just you wanking at this point. He fought a clone w/ a fraction of the original's chakra and he'd still get on his own by it regardless of him using the Curse Mark or not.

I always find it hilarious how you constantly come up with these scenarios that even the actual character doesn't do lol. Based on what you just stated i wonder why Mei is so low on the totem pole.

As for Mei propelling herself? HAHA what feats you have of her doing this?

She isn't getting away from Bone Forest unless there are some undiscovered speed feats

As for Tsunade punch... You really think Tsunade can touch Kimmimaro?

He has speed, skill and an arsenal suited to beat them both.
As for you "wanking" comment Kimmi did not use Curse mark as Edo which increased his arsenal vastly AND the man was on his death bed

You speak of Clones yet Kimmimaro did not lose however 3rd raikage lost to clone? What does that tell you?

 

[KidGamer65]

I always find it hilarious how you constantly come up with these scenarios that even the actual character doesn't do lol. Based on what you just stated i wonder why Mei is so low on the totem pole.

As for Mei propelling herself? HAHA what feats you have of her doing this?

She isn't getting away from Bone Forest unless there are some undiscovered speed feats

As for Tsunade punch... You really think Tsunade can touch Kimmimaro?

He has speed, skill and an arsenal suited to beat them both.

Mei is low on the totem pole compared to people who are actually stronger than her, as in the majority of the Kage level Ninja who debuted in Part 2. What you are saying doesn't make any sense as usual. Mei being able to propel herself w/ Suiton has nothing to do with her being high on the "totem pole".

That's basic physics. If she fires a Suiton at the ground it'll push her up in the air. Do you also ask people to provide feats that X character can run or jump? Lmao. Too early in the morning for this BS pal. If you can't address the argument properly just say so and move on, no need to make up imaginary reasons for not accepting the argument just because you don't ever want to admit you are wrong. What are Bone Forest's speed feats again? Being too fast for an

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Lee to escape? Amazing. :lol

Yes. "he has speed, skill and an arsenal to beat them both" isn't a rebuttal. If Tsunade can engage the likes of Orochimaru and Orochimaru can't evade every single one of her punches then I don't want to see you even try to argue that Kimimaro does the same. That's not even including the fact that if she hits the ground the area of her attack is far larger and far harder to evade than a simple punch.

As for you "wanking" comment Kimmi did not use Curse mark as Edo which increased his arsenal vastly AND the man was on his death bed

You speak of Clones yet Kimmimaro did not lose however 3rd raikage lost to clone? What does that tell you?

It doesn't matter what he did or didn't use. Saying Kimimaro would've defeated KCM Naruto had he used the Curse Mark is nothing but wank of the highest level. Kimimaro didn't lose because he was supported by an entire squadron of Edo Shinobi. :lol If it was Naruto's clone vs. Kimimaro 1 on 1 Kimimaro would get stomped with the lowest of difficulties.

What's next? Are you going to start telling me that Kimimaro>3rd Raikage? Lmao just stop guy. Just stop.

 

[patrickscott]

Then I suppose Sasuke is Madara level? :bdpf:

 

[SenseiSama]

No, it's not. :lol Please don't make things up. He's basically like Itachi. Has an illness that weakens him in terms of stamina. Edo Kimimaro's feats don't blow his living version's out of the water and that's consistent with the fact that an illness doesn't decrease the power of your jutsu. Maybe his physical strength would go up but again, Kimimaro is not fighting on par with any Kage.

His body was determined dead after physical examination hence why Orochimaru gave up on using him as a vessel, the only thing keeping his heart from fully stopping at the time was his will.


The bones are harder than metal, Raikage isn't piercing through his barrage and neither is Gaara, the bones can also regenerate, Mei's lava will only work temporarily.


Kimimaro is also a natural genius so you can forget any of them being better at close quarter combat, in fact CQC is out of the question since his bones are also an absolute defence.

All in all, un-nerfed Kimimaro would destroy them since he's a genius with Kaguya's ability (just like Itachi), Orochimaru would only choose a vessel he knows can perform feats that surpass the Kage.

 

[KidGamer65]

His body was determined dead after physical examination hence why Orochimaru gave up on using him as a vessel, the only thing keeping his heart from fully stopping at the time was his will.

The bones are harder than metal, Raikage isn't piercing through his barrage and neither is Gaara, the bones can also regenerate, Mei's lava will only work temporarily.


Kimimaro is also a natural genius so you can forget any of them being better at close quarter combat, in fact CQC is out of the question since his bones are also an absolute defence.

All in all, un-nerfed Kimimaro would destroy them since he's a genius with Kaguya's ability (just like Itachi), Orochimaru would only choose a vessel he knows can perform feats that surpass the Kage.

Lmfao don't ever quote me again.

 

[Mellanoma]

Mei is low on the totem pole compared to people who are actually stronger than her, as in the majority of the Kage level Ninja who debuted in Part 2. What you are saying doesn't make any sense as usual. Mei being able to propel herself w/ Suiton has nothing to do with her being high on the "totem pole".

That's basic physics. If she fires a Suiton at the ground it'll push her up in the air. Do you also ask people to provide feats that X character can run or jump? Lmao. Too early in the morning for this BS pal. If you can't address the argument properly just say so and move on, no need to make up imaginary reasons for not accepting the argument just because you don't ever want to admit you are wrong. What are Bone Forest's speed feats again? Being too fast for an

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Lee to escape? Amazing. :lol

Yes. "he has speed, skill and an arsenal to beat them both" isn't a rebuttal. If Tsunade can engage the likes of Orochimaru and Orochimaru can't evade every single one of her punches then I don't want to see you even try to argue that Kimimaro does the same. That's not even including the fact that if she hits the ground the area of her attack is far larger and far harder to evade than a simple punch.



It doesn't matter what he did or didn't use. Saying Kimimaro would've defeated KCM Naruto had he used the Curse Mark is nothing but wank of the highest level. Kimimaro didn't lose because he was supported by an entire squadron of Edo Shinobi. :lol If it was Naruto's clone vs. Kimimaro 1 on 1 Kimimaro would get stomped with the lowest of difficulties.

What's next? Are you going to start telling me that Kimimaro>3rd Raikage? Lmao just stop guy. Just stop.

i just like using your hypothetical situations against you. Just like stated chuunin sasuke = raikage in speed remember

@Bold I would never say something so stupid.

Kimimaro doesn't wreck Tsunade or Mei not in this lifetime or the next. Bone Forest can't hurt her if she gets out of it's range, which she can do on foot or by propelling herself away with her enormous Suiton. Acid Mist destroys him. Regular Mist decreases his visibility. Suiton can be used to open him up for finishing hits from her Lava. A single punch from Tsunade is good game unless Kimimaro is more durable than Susanoo, and he's not.

Bold is just you wanking at this point. He fought a clone w/ a fraction of the original's chakra and he'd still get on his own by it regardless of him using the Curse Mark or not.

that entire bold isn't an argument as you haven't provided anything factual to support it. This is why i laugh when you get your 'hypothetical situations'. If you like I can create a hypothetical situation as well in favor of kimmi but based on actual manga feats
Kimmimaro > Mei

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I expected this from Rikudou Tobi but not Kidgamer

Kimmimaro can easily wreck Tsunade and Mei

Bone Forest alone 1 shots Mei

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As for the EDO comparison I dont believe EDO could use curse mark otherwise if they could Kimmimaro would have wrecked KCM Naruto as well.

The guy tanked Gaara's deep underground sand burial which based on science is quite an impressive feat.

You out right say the most retarded things on this base. And this is just laughable, I'm honestly not surprised that you would post something this stupid.

Still laughing about Tsunade getting one-shot by something that couldn't stop gaara pre-kage.

 

[Mellanoma]

You out right say the most retarded things on this base. And this is just laughable, I'm honestly not surprised that you would post something this stupid.

Still laughing about Tsunade getting one-shot by something that couldn't stop gaara pre-kage.

I dont know whats funnier. The desperate attempt to insult or the lack of reading what i put. Never said Tsunade gets one shot... and pre kage gaara could fly

 

[Hakke]

he maybe is not a Kage level (he could be a low Kage-level at least) but he definitely had the potential. it is just that... Kishi had no idea what to do with him just like the other characters in this series

 

[KidGamer65]

i just like using your hypothetical situations against you. Just like stated chuunin sasuke = raikage in speed remember

@Bold I would never say something so stupid.



that entire bold isn't an argument as you haven't provided anything factual to support it. This is why i laugh when you get your 'hypothetical situations'. If you like I can create a hypothetical situation as well in favor of kimmi but based on actual manga feats
Kimmimaro > Mei

Truly living up your username. Don't quote me again little guy, at least not until you are competent enough to handle a real discussion.

 

[Mellanoma]

Truly living up your username. Don't quote me again little guy, at least not until you are competent enough to handle a real discussion.

Tsk, tsk Agree to disagree then

 

[Char Aznable]

The Sound 4 were Jonin level with Curse Mark level 2. Kimimaro wrecked them all laugh diff, when he fought them.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I dont know whats funnier. The desperate attempt to insult or the lack of reading what i put. Never said Tsunade gets one shot... and pre kage gaara could fly

"You don't know what's funnier" but I'll continue too entertain the idea that you failed to differentiate the difference between actually insulting somebody and attempting to insult somebody despite the fact that I myself already completed that task.

Stringing words together without a proper coherent sentence doesn't make you any smarter. Now look again. You literally implied that bone forest one-shots tsunade and mei, which is laughable at best in both accounts.
Don't get high and mighty with me clown. I'm not taking the fool that argued Hiruzen can use Uchiha barriers and Susanoo any seriously. You look and sound foolish. Learn from this.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Raikage isn't piercing through his barrage

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The Sound 4 were Jonin level with Curse Mark level 2. Kimimaro wrecked them all laugh diff, when he fought them.

wut

It took all 4 of them using CS level 2 to beat two fodder special jounin(Genma and Raido).

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And Kido was so scared of them having to fight Kakashi that they waited several hours(even after Kakashi had left) to approach Sasuke.

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It's day time when Kakashi talks to Sasuke:

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Completely dark when they go to Sasuke:

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[SenseiSama]

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And yet Gaara's sand couldn't so shit against it

 

[Mellanoma]

"You don't know what's funnier" but I'll continue too entertain the idea that you failed to differentiate the difference between actually insulting somebody and attempting to insult somebody despite the fact that I myself already completed that task.

Stringing words together without a proper coherent sentence doesn't make you any smarter. Now look again. You literally implied that bone forest one-shots tsunade and mei, which is laughable at best in both accounts.
Don't get high and mighty with me clown. I'm not taking the fool that argued Hiruzen can use Uchiha barriers and Susanoo any seriously. You look and sound foolish. Learn from this.

Kimmimaro can easily wreck Tsunade and Mei

Bone Forest alone 1 shots Mei

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Re-read what I put. I said Kimmimaro can easily wreck Tsunade and Mei

Tsunade can out heal Bone forest and has summons to assist canonically

What feats does Mei have that can canonically help her escape?

@Bold. This is Narutobase buddy

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Just because they were scared doesn't mean they couldn't beat him. Kishi has done this three times in the manga for plot

Itachi and Kisame feared Jiraiya and even stated more akatsuki couldn't beat him either.

 

[EliteKakashi]

And yet Gaara's sand couldn't so shit against it

I suppose sometimes it best to realize there's no hope for some people.

Just because they were scared doesn't mean they couldn't beat him.

Itachi and Kisame feared Jiraiya and even stated more akatsuki couldn't beat him either.

Except it's proven that they would fail against a ninja of Kakashi's caliber when they all had to use CS level 2 to beat Genma and Raido.

Itachi and Kisame weren't talking about Jiraiya, they were talking about the kyuubi. I'm not going down that rabbit hole again though, can just read what I posted here(and other posts after that one in the thread, covered each rebuttal made):

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[Mellanoma]

I suppose sometimes it best to realize there's no hope for some people.



Except it's proven that they would fail against a ninja of Kakashi's caliber when they all had to use CS level 2 to beat Genma and Raido.

Itachi and Kisame weren't talking about Jiraiya, they were talking about the kyuubi. I'm not going down that rabbit hole again though, can just read what I posted here(and other posts after that one in the thread, covered each rebuttal made):

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This further proves my point.

If talking about Jiraiya it was BS plot based on what we know

If talking about nine tails it was still BS Plot....

Uchiha are designed to control the nine tails and Kisame's abilities are developed to capture tailed beast. Akatsuki themselves are capturing tailed beast so regardless it was a plot device

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Re-read what I put. I said Kimmimaro can easily wreck Tsunade and Mei

Tsunade can out heal Bone forest and has summons to assist canonically

What feats does Mei have that can canonically help her escape?

@Bold. This is Narutobase buddy.

I read, and it's all in the same context because it's in the same sentence. The only thing you really did was emphasize mei getting one-shot. Which is completely not true regarding her feats against Sasuke and edo Madara.

Her boil release can be adjusted by her to melt any target or her surroundings. So she doesn't need to take out the whole forest to demonstrate her immense skills. She can melt the attacks surrounding her or the ones yet to come and given the fact that she melted susanoo ribcages before, I see no problem with her melting kimmiaro's bones.

-She has water pillar to protect herself
-She has lava release

And others that I did not cover as well. There are many shinobi's that can't fly but bone forest isn't doing shit towards them. Like the Raikage for an example.

 

[Mellanoma]

I read, and it's all in the same context because it's in the same sentence. The only thing you really did was emphasize mei getting one-shot. Which is completely not true regarding her feats against Sasuke and edo Madara.

Her boil release can be adjusted by her to melt any target or her surroundings. So she doesn't need to take out the whole forest to demonstrate her immense skills. She can melt the attacks surrounding her or the ones yet to come and given the fact that she melted susanoo ribcages before, I see no problem with her melting kimmiaro's bones.

-She has water pillar to protect herself
-She has lava release

And others that I did not cover as well. There are many shinobi's that can't fly but bone forest isn't doing towards them. Like the Raikage for an example.

Mei's abilities melts things at such a slow pace she can still be killed by what's attacking her so i dont see her melting an instant forest of Kimmi's bones.

Show me feats of Mei instantly melting ANYTHING in the manga

Also you forget that Kimmimaro is capable of travelling through his bone forest.

If Bones > Sand what makes you think water will protect her?