Protester shot at Yiannopolous rally, by supporters.

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It was the other way around at first, so don't be surprised when the right starts shooting back. The left brought violence and is getting it back in return. Innocent's are getting hurt in the cross-fire because of the petty behavior of the left-wing.
 

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It was the other way around at first, so don't be surprised when the right starts shooting back. The left brought violence and is getting it back in return. Innocent's are getting hurt in the cross-fire because of the petty behavior of the left-wing.
so basically your contribution is... "they started it!"...?

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so basically your contribution is... "they started it!"...?

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So if someone starts something and get's hurt, do we blame the response to their behavior? Do you blame a gun when a kid turns it to himself and shoots himself?

One thing I found funny was when the left-wing had it's takeover it received quite a peaceful loss from the right-wing, and as soon as the right has a comeback, there's a bunch of riots and shootings. It wasn't even a year ago when a Milo supporter got shot at a Milo event, and also, people were being beaten and attacked at Berkley for going to a Milo talk.

Don't give me this horsecrap about the right being violent after everything I've seen from the left. Despite the right's love of guns, they seem to have been missing over the past two decades.
 

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So if someone starts something and get's hurt, do we blame the response to their behavior? Do you blame a gun when a kid turns it to himself and shoots himself?

One thing I found funny was when the left-wing had it's takeover it received quite a peaceful loss from the right-wing, and as soon as the right has a comeback, there's a bunch of riots and shootings. It wasn't even a year ago when a Milo supporter got shot at a Milo event, and also, people were being beaten and attacked at Berkley for going to a Milo talk.

Don't give me this horsecrap about the right being violent after everything I've seen from the left. Despite the right's love of guns, they seem to have been missing over the past two decades.
Were you not alive during the Obama years?
 

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Oh yeah because there were a bunch of "white mens marches" and riots after Obama won. Definitely. People were being beaten and a battle unfolded at a university.
It's as if extremism begets extremism and having just two candidates for office results in both parties becoming more and more cartoon-like in their extremity. But yeah, by all means- point at the other side, you're the good team after all...which is why there's so many marches at all. Politics is like a sports game right?
 
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It's as if extremism begets extremism and having just two candidates for office results in both parties becoming more and more cartoon-like in their extremity. But yeah, by all means- point at the other side, you're the good team after all...which is why there's so many marches at all. Politics is like a sports game right?
I never said the right-wing was right, I dont have a side at all. I've been observing and if anything the left is getting what they dished out. No team is inherently correct, but the left went overboard with their violence and if innocents are getting caught up then no one is to blame but them.
 
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In charging papers, King County prosecutors say “this shooting was not an impulsive act done in a moment of fear”.

Instead, the two went to the campus event “with the intent to provoke altercations with protesters who they knew would also be at this controversial event”, wrote Mary Barbosa, senior deputy prosecuting attorney.

Barbosa added that they “created a situation designed to allow Elizabeth Hokoana to shoot the victim in the middle of an extremely crowded event under the guise of defending herself or her husband”.






[video=youtube;8lj7NghqVKM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lj7NghqVKM&ab_channel=ThomHartmannProgram[/video]

Have you seen the videos of the 2nd round of Berkley riots that happened in April? I'm not surprised at all by the shooting you posted. I feel as though these events are going to continue to escalate.
The police have a stand down attitude in some of these places which will only hasten the escalation from both sides in my opinion.
 

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No I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of your statement. When I asked you would you say the same thing if it were a jihadist attack, you said no.

Then I retorted by saying that jihadist attacks in the U.S. kill less people than people being killed by violent/hate political messaging.

And then you just said the same thing again....

It's a logical fallacy.
There is clearly an agenda being played out in the Muslim world so of course there is a brighter light being cast on "terrorist" attacks.
Its a clear decision to focus on one thing and not another because one advances an agenda while the other does not.

I find this hypocrisy daily in a vast number of stories. There are many agendas in play at any given moment. Glad to see you agree it exist.
 

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Oh yeah because there were a bunch of "white mens marches" and riots after Obama won. Definitely. People were being beaten and a battle unfolded at a university.
Obama wasn't the candidate that tried to violate women's rights and have sexist rhetoric.

And there is absolutely no evidence that proves which side started the fight. But you're trying to tell me that the group that spreading violent, racist, rhetoric, doing "seig heil", and have been the side to start the violence in past rallies, are not violent?

So why is it that the eugenics and KKK crowd seems to be exclusively to the right?

But we do know one thing for sure and that is that a right-wing couple went out to provoke protesters with the intention to shoot one of them, by creating a situation where they can make the excuse of self-defense. That happened, and that was caused by the right.


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So if someone starts something and get's hurt, do we blame the response to their behavior? Do you blame a gun when a kid turns it to himself and shoots himself?

One thing I found funny was when the left-wing had it's takeover it received quite a peaceful loss from the right-wing, and as soon as the right has a comeback, there's a bunch of riots and shootings. It wasn't even a year ago when a Milo supporter got shot at a Milo event, and also, people were being beaten and attacked at Berkley for going to a Milo talk.

Don't give me this horsecrap about the right being violent after everything I've seen from the left. Despite the right's love of guns, they seem to have been missing over the past two decades.
I'm not familiar in the full story but is getting shot a fair response?
 

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I'm not familiar in the full story but is getting shot a fair response?
Well with this story in particular, the shooter couple intentionally went out to provoke the protesters in order to create a situation where they were able to shoot one of them and make a self-defense claim.

This was in the police report and the couple were convicted.

I don't think JaphethCrenshaw read the thread and simply based his response on the title with the assumption that somehow the protester was at fault.
 

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Well with this story in particular, the shooter couple intentionally went out to provoke the protesters in order to create a situation where they were able to shoot one of them and make a self-defense claim.

This was in the police report and the couple were convicted.

I don't think JaphethCrenshaw read the thread and simply based his response on the title with the assumption that somehow the protester was at fault.
It's terrible they're coming in defence of the shooter and them assuming he was in the right
 
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Well with this story in particular, the shooter couple intentionally went out to provoke the protesters in order to create a situation where they were able to shoot one of them and make a self-defense claim.

This was in the police report and the couple were convicted.

I don't think JaphethCrenshaw read the thread and simply based his response on the title with the assumption that somehow the protester was at fault.
Oh I read the thread, I'm just saying that if you won't condemn the countless acts of violence from the left then don't cry about the right shooting anyone. The left-wing started this and is getting their medicine in return. The shooter was wrong, but this a clear example of why you don't bring violence into political discourse. Joe Rogan talks about how the left's violence has actually escalated violence from both sides.
 

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Oh I read the thread, I'm just saying that if you won't condemn the countless acts of violence from the left then don't cry about the right shooting anyone. The left-wing started this and is getting their medicine in return. The shooter was wrong, but this a clear example of why you don't bring violence into political discourse. Joe Rogan talks about how the left's violence has actually escalated violence from both sides.
That's a false equivalence.

Countless acts? Are you sure you're not just bullshitting? Name me at least 10 of these violent acts that was explicitly started and committed by self identified liberals, and I mean empirical evidence that proves that they started the violence and are indeed liberal and not just anarchists?

Joe Rogan is a comedian and a libertarian. I would take what he says as just an invalidated opinion rather than fact.
 

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So I guess we should apply this same method to Islamic Terrorism? I mean, shit happens right?
So are you admitting that they're terrorists then?

Simply dismissing things and moving on as you put it, never actually fixes the core problem; it just breeds ignorance as the same thing continues to happen.
Except when it's something you don't like or doesn't follow your believes, in wich case you will completely ignore it because you're an ignorant sjw **** who thinks he's smart. I wasn't even surprised to see who posted this thread, that's how predictable your ignorance is.

If you're going to post this video and talk trash, do the same for BLM and all the crazy people you support who beat people up, mace people, burn stuff and everything, why don't you talk about that uh? There's a whole lot of it but shit just happens right?

Hypocrite.

Also I wouldn't classify a high tension political climate where there are groups that act on violent messaging as just "shit happens."
You would.
 

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So are you admitting that they're terrorists then?



Except when it's something you don't like or follows your believes, in wich case you will completely ignore it because you're an ignorant sjw **** who thinks he's smart. I wasn't even surprised to see who posted this thread, that's how predictable your ignorance is.

If you're going to post this video and talk trash, do the same for BLM and all the crazy people you support who beat people up, mace people, burn stuff and everything, why don't you talk about that uh? There's a whole lot of it but shit just happens right?

Hypocrite.



You would.
Well someone just came back from the salt mine.

Take a load off. Lmao


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Pretend to grab it from your monitor and put it on your forehead.

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It's big and black too ;)
So let me just be clear; you came into this thread just to b**ch at me. Man, if I rustled your jimmies, then I have no idea how you're able to survive in the real world.
 
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