[Theory] dogtooth is not true logia

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he is a double awakened paramecia

true logia are only for natural stuff not cake

he is like doffy and awakened but only he awakened twice
for example if doffy awakened his fruit again he would be able to turn into string like true logia
 

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There is no such thing as a double awakening.

If a paramecia awakens, whatever his power is, he can make other things the same.(non living)

If logia is awakened (I'm just assuming from akainu and akoiji turning their battlefields into their respective element so this holds no weight) they can make other things turn into their element. (Non living)

And if a Zoan is awakened they get steroids
 
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he is a cake, he is a mochi a type of cake made from rice

and cakes do not occur in nature as far as we know meaning he is not a real logia
Uhmmm, explain whole cake island, and the cotton candy rain and the many other sweets related islands/natural events that occur in big mams territory. As far as the one piece verse is concerned, mochi/sweet things occur in nature.
 
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Uhmmm, explain whole cake island, and the cotton candy rain and the many other sweets related islands/natural events that occur in big mams territory. As far as the one piece verse is concerned, mochi/sweet things occur in nature.
they are not natural in real life so not real natural thingie

all logia thus far have been things are truly natural and forces of nature which cake is not

Manga says - Logia
Dumbass says - Paramecia
jinbei is not manga, he could be mistaken or lied to
a similar thing happened before with trebol being claimed as snot logia but turned out to be not logia
 

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There is no such thing as a double awakening.

If a paramecia awakens, whatever his power is, he can make other things the same.(non living)

If logia is awakened (I'm just assuming from akainu and akoiji turning their battlefields into their respective element so this holds no weight) they can make other things turn into their element. (Non living)

And if a Zoan is awakened they get steroids
Isn't the awakwning for Paramecia and Logia the same thing in your def.
 

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they are not natural in real life so not real natural thingie

all logia thus far have been things are truly natural and forces of nature which cake is not
ssjelf said "As far as the one piece verse is concerned". If you're going by your sense of "they are not natural in real life", since when anything One Piece has is natural in real life?
why cant it double awaken?
you can go double super saiyan since ss2 exists and since one piece is inspired by dbz its reasonable to think an awakened state 2 exist for devil fruits
Just because Oda was inspired by Dragon Ball, doesn't mean he's gonna do by the laws of DB. That would leave no room of creativity for Oda and his manga will fail early.
 
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ssjelf said "As far as the one piece verse is concerned". If you're going by your sense of "they are not natural in real life", since when anything One Piece has is natural in real life?

Just because Oda was inspired by Dragon Ball, doesn't mean he's gonna do by the laws of DB. That would leave no room of creativity for Oda and his manga will fail early.
he wont use all db laws but clearly uses some of them
look at luffys numbered gear forms, they are very similar to the multiple super saiyan states and its obvious he based them on the ss
it is a possibility the awakened states will take the same route and have multiple forms
People said the same thing about Trebol, saying he was a Paramecia and not a Logia because "mucus" and sticky shit wasn't a force of nature. And that turned out true. Oda himself said a Logia is a force of nature. A rice cake isn't.
agreed
i think trebol pretended to be logia to be more intimidating and lets see what dogtooths reason will be

or maybe he isnt a cake and is some natural substance like tar or something
 

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People said the same thing about Trebol, saying he was a Paramecia and not a Logia because "mucus" and sticky shit wasn't a force of nature. And that turned out true. Oda himself said a Logia is a force of nature. A rice cake isn't.
If Trebol isn't a Logia then how did he not die when Usopp bisected him?
 

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Are you ****ing serious? Regardless of the answer to this question, we have TREBOL SAYING HE'S A PARAMECIA AND NOT A LOGIA.
he does have a point

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not sure how trebol survived bisection since he is confirmed to be not a logia
is it a plot hole and maybe oda forgot about that?
 
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People said the same thing about Trebol, saying he was a Paramecia and not a Logia because "mucus" and sticky shit wasn't a force of nature. And that turned out true. Oda himself said a Logia is a force of nature. A rice cake isn't.
A rice cake isn't but isn't there the thing about the translation and one way being the name of a flower which would be nature though not really a force?
 
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