Who can Kidomaru beat in Akatsuki?

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Just remember guys. An arrow to the knee is GG.

Sick Skyrim reference but a sticky gold weapon of any other kind slices his head and his knee right off.

I thought it was due to the pretentious mensa scholars that belittle people's opinions based on bias one sided logical analysis.

But who knows XD

I'm told I have to spread some reputation around before giving it to you but holy sh*t

Hidan's not dumb he just gets way too excited when fighting, he can still react to everything Kido tries to pull so again his intelligence isn't doing shit here.

Yeah but even in a perfectly world where Hidan's slower than Sasori speed can reflex him out of every single projectile, web, trap and spider summon (that requires 64 Palms speed)

It's still a waiting game because you can debate agility all you like, Kidomaru has multiple means of attack whilst Hidan has none.

 

[Zexion~]

Yeah but even in a perfectly world where Hidan's slower than Sasori speed can reflex him out of every single projectile, web, trap and spider summon (that requires 64 Palms speed)

It's still a waiting game because you can debate agility all you like, Kidomaru has multiple means of attack whilst Hidan has none.

Lol so if Gai was in this scenario would you say the same? Him having a single means of attack automatically means he loses? No, the multiple means of attack mean nothing when Hidan can avoid and tank everything he has.

 

[Zexion~]

You meaning chasing behind Kakashi? As he dodging multiple opponents? Laughable.

Hidan isn't blitzing. He has no speed feats to suggest he'd close the distance between Kidomaru reacting. He lacks hand speed to deflect a mass number of webs being shot at him consistently.

Chasing behind Kakashi? Someone hasn't read the manga lol, closing the distance on Kakashi and clashing with Kakashi multiple times > Anything Kidomaru has. Matching Asuma even >>> anything Kidomaru has lol why? Because part 1 Neji is <<<<<<<< both of them.

Why would he deflect the webs that would stick to him if he did so? He avoids them all, with ease.

 

[blazekev90]

Chasing behind Kakashi? Someone hasn't read the manga lol, closing the distance on Kakashi and clashing with Kakashi multiple times > Anything Kidomaru has. Matching Asuma even >>> anything Kidomaru has lol why? Because part 1 Neji is <<<<<<<< both of them.

You're beyond moronic at all times and its uncanny why you still hang around here. Why would he deflect the webs that would stick to him if he did so? He avoids them all, with ease.

Two opponents clashing means they have equivalent speed? lol they're plenty of encounters in which two opponents have clashed and there's no direct illustration depicting they're travel speed to indicate their foot speed. The best explain, Obito vs Minato. Although their clash was interpreted by ftg, their travel speed towards another to "clash" was shown equals in speed. So unless you believe Obito has the same foot speed as Minato, this argument of "clashing" and "closing distance" depicting ones foot speed is mute.

Seoncdly, Kakashi wasn't running away from Hidan, he was trying to evade incoming attacks from Kabuzu's mask.

A>B>C logic? Both Kakashi and Asuma may be stronger than Kidomaru, however they're fighting styles are completely different. Something Hidan relied on and tried to use to his advantage. Therefore, you're comparison has failed yet again.

Insults? Against me? Do you really want to go there? Lol
"Hang around here"? Is this a chill for you? Lol if so, that's sad

Avoids them with ease? Yea ok, keep dreaming about those imaginary speed feats. As a mid-close range fighter who can't play off any distractions (clones/long range jutsu/etc), if he plans to combat Kidomaru he'd have a better strategy than trying to outrun the inevitable.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol so if Gai was in this scenario would you say the same? Him having a single means of attack automatically means he loses? No, the multiple means of attack mean nothing when Hidan can avoid and tank everything he has.

guy has gates and long range attacks tho.

 

[blazekev90]

Lol so if Gai was in this scenario would you say the same? Him having a single means of attack automatically means he loses? No, the multiple means of attack mean nothing when Hidan can avoid and tank everything he has.

:eww: you can't be serious. We can't put Gai in this scenario, he actually has means to counter Kidomaru. Lmao

 

[Zexion~]

Two opponents clashing means they have equivalent speed? lol they're plenty of encounters in which two opponents have clashed and there's no direct illustration depicting they're travel speed to indicate their foot speed.

Means they can match/react to the speed of their opponent lol usually clashes don't happen at peoples full speed but its still a feat that proves that anything Kido fires is not touching Hidan.

The best explain, Obito vs Minato. Although their clash was interpreted by ftg, their travel speed towards another to "clash" was shown equals in speed. So unless you believe Obito has the same foot speed as Minato, this argument of "clashing" and "closing distance" depicting ones foot speed is mute.

Doesn't matter lol I'm not talking about "clashing" in the sense they met perfectly in the middle, I'm talking about the fact that Hidan was fast enough to not get touched by Kakashi and Asuma's advances and also fast enough to put out a strike of his own lol that is literally all that needs to be said here as he's laughing at the attacks of Kidomaru who again was outclassed by fodder jounin.

Seoncdly, Kakashi wasn't running away from Hidan, he was trying to evade incoming attacks from Kabuzu's mask.

When tf did I say anything about Kakashi running away from Hidan? No mask was present until AFTER Hidan attacked Kakashi

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. Kakashi was forced into an altercation that he (with intel) would rather not have entered.

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there are simply no masks present at all. Please I encourage you to read the manga before you spout lies on a MANGA forum.

A>B>C logic? Both Kakashi and Asuma may be stronger than Kidomaru, however they're fighting styles are completely different. Something Hidan relied on and tried to use to his advantage. Therefore, you're comparison has failed yet again.

I'm not saying "Hidan fought against two STRONGER beings therefore he wins" (although again Kido was punked by fodder Jounin.) I am saying that both ASUMA AND KAKASHI ARE FASTER THAN KIDOMARU AND HIS GOD DAMN ARROWS AND WEBS so if Hidan fought them and reacted to them multiple times he's literally laughing at this pathetic arsenal.

Avoids them with ease? Yea ok, keep dreaming about those imaginary speed feats. As a mid-close range fighter who can't play off any distractions (clones/long range jutsu/etc), if he plans to combat Kidomaru he'd have a better strategy than trying to outrun the inevitable.

First of all, speed feats aren't even evasion that would be reactions second of all he's 1000x faster than SRA Neji and Kido so he follows the arrows and finds Kido eventually lol.

guy has gates and long range attacks tho.

Base Gai, solo's Kidomaru with Taijutsu alone, he also has ONE long range attack. So 6G Gai loses due to having only one attack style?

:eww: you can't be serious. We can't put Gai in this scenario, he actually has means to counter Kidomaru. Lmao

Yes...with speed. Base Gai solo's lol. That is like saying Kido beats 3T Kakashi because he has no range, literally there are plenty of examples that make you all sound like even larger idiots than has been proven.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Means they can match/react to the speed of their opponent lol usually clashes don't happen at peoples full speed but its still a feat that proves that anything Kido fires is not touching Hidan.


Doesn't matter lol I'm not talking about "clashing" in the sense they met perfectly in the middle, I'm talking about the fact that Hidan was fast enough to not get touched by Kakashi and Asuma's advances and also fast enough to put out a strike of his own lol that is literally all that needs to be said here as he's laughing at the attacks of Kidomaru who again was outclassed by fodder jounin.



When tf did I say anything about Kakashi running away from Hidan? No mask was present until AFTER Hidan attacked Kakashi

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. Kakashi was forced into an altercation that he (with intel) would rather not have entered.

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there are simply no masks present at all. Please I encourage you to read the manga before you spout lies on a MANGA forum.




You moronic child, I'm not saying "Hidan fought against two STRONGER beings therefore he wins" (although again Kido was punked by fodder Jounin.) I am saying that both ASUMA AND KAKASHI ARE FASTER THAN KIDOMARU AND HIS GOD DAMN ARROWS AND WEBS so if Hidan fought them and reacted to them multiple times he's literally laughing at this pathetic arsenal.


Who are you lol, and I'm sorry I didn't realize you get paid for this...is this a job? Is someone forcing you to come on and spout garbage on a manga forum? If not than yes this is a place we all choose to come on. Aka a "chill".




First of all, speed feats aren't even evasion that would be reactions second of all he's 1000x faster than SRA Neji and Kido so he follows the arrows and finds Kido eventually lol.



Base Gai, solo's Kidomaru with Taijutsu alone, he also has ONE long range attack. So 6G Gai loses due to having only one attack style?



Yes...with speed. Base Gai solo's lol. That is like saying Kido beats 3T Kakashi because he has no range, literally there are plenty of examples that make you all sound like even larger idiots than has been proven.

so 5th gate lee is automatically beating kidomaru? he'd definitely faster than base guy right?

 

[blazekev90]

Means they can match/react to the speed of their opponent lol usually clashes don't happen at peoples full speed but its still a feat that proves that anything Kido fires is not touching Hidan.


Doesn't matter lol I'm not talking about "clashing" in the sense they met perfectly in the middle, I'm talking about the fact that Hidan was fast enough to not get touched by Kakashi and Asuma's advances and also fast enough to put out a strike of his own lol that is literally all that needs to be said here as he's laughing at the attacks of Kidomaru who again was outclassed by fodder jounin.



When tf did I say anything about Kakashi running away from Hidan? No mask was present until AFTER Hidan attacked Kakashi

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. Kakashi was forced into an altercation that he (with intel) would rather not have entered.

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there are simply no masks present at all. Please I encourage you to read the manga before you spout lies on a MANGA forum.




You moronic child, I'm not saying "Hidan fought against two STRONGER beings therefore he wins" (although again Kido was punked by fodder Jounin.) I am saying that both ASUMA AND KAKASHI ARE FASTER THAN KIDOMARU AND HIS GOD DAMN ARROWS AND WEBS so if Hidan fought them and reacted to them multiple times he's literally laughing at this pathetic arsenal.


Who are you lol, and I'm sorry I didn't realize you get paid for this...is this a job? Is someone forcing you to come on and spout garbage on a manga forum? If not than yes this is a place we all choose to come on. Aka a "chill".




First of all, speed feats aren't even evasion that would be reactions second of all he's 1000x faster than SRA Neji and Kido so he follows the arrows and finds Kido eventually lol.



Base Gai, solo's Kidomaru with Taijutsu alone, he also has ONE long range attack. So 6G Gai loses due to having only one attack style?



Yes...with speed. Base Gai solo's lol. That is like saying Kido beats 3T Kakashi because he has no range, literally there are plenty of examples that make you all sound like even larger idiots than has been proven.

Wasted chars.

What you're describing is reaction speed, not foot speed which is a top of discussion. Hidan being able to react to Kidomaru's webs means nothing if he lacks the foot speed physically move and avoid them. Reaction would assist in a strategy of defelctiing incoming web projectiles, however we know that would only backfire considering they'd only stick to him.

Ex) Sasuke and Ay clashed. That was an example of Sasuke being able to match/react to his opponents speed, even as you've stated. However, Sasuke lacked the foot speed to avoid Ay's strike from behind hence him getting slapped. Therefore, you're entire argument holds no price or indication that Hidan has speed feats to avoid multiple web projectiles.

I said it's "not like Kakashi was running away from Hidan" meaning he wasn't using full speed to avoid Hidan, but rather evade the approach incoming attacks. The scan of no mask being present, Hidan was sneaking up behind him, hence the "!" And him trailing behind Kakashi with his back towards him. Again, fail.

Stronger/faster it doesn't matter, that's still A>B>C logic. That's your reasoning in believing he'd defeat Kidomaru. However, as I said, they have completely different fighting styles, the comparison of strength or speed is irrelevant.

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Oh so now it's base Gai lmao. Kakashi has long range attacks and has displays superior speed (foot and reaction). Even you acknowledge Hidan chased/clashed with a Kakashi not going at full speed lol.

I haven't read the manga in a year(s). I don't think this is a discussion worth me taking the time and effort to retrace an obvious outcome.

 

[Zexion~]

Wasted chars.

What you're describing is reaction speed, not foot speed which is a top of discussion. Hidan being able to react to Kidomaru's webs means nothing if he lacks the foot speed physically move and avoid them. Reaction would assist in a strategy of defelctiing incoming web projectiles, however we know that would only backfire considering they'd only stick to him.

Ex) Sasuke and Ay clashed. That was an example of Sasuke being able to match/react to his opponents speed, even as you've stated. However, Sasuke lacked the foot speed to avoid Ay's strike from behind hence him getting slapped. Therefore, you're entire argument holds no price or indication that Hidan has speed feats to avoid multiple web projectiles.

I said it's "not like Kakashi was running away from Hidan" meaning he wasn't using full speed to avoid Hidan, but rather evade the approach incoming attacks. The scan of no mask being present, Hidan was sneaking up behind him, hence the "!" And him trailing behind Kakashi with his back towards him. Again, fail.

Stronger/faster it doesn't matter, that's still A>B>C logic. That's your reasoning in believing he'd defeat Kidomaru. However, as I said, they have completely different fighting styles, the comparison of strength or speed is irrelevant.

I enter. I post. I leave. Lol

Oh so now it's base Gai lmao. Kakashi has long range attacks and has displays superior speed (foot and reaction). Even you acknowledge Hidan chased/clashed with a Kakashi not going at full speed lol.

Kakashi walking is faster than SRA Neji and the Fodder Jounin who beat up Kido lol.

I'm not arguing this anymore if you really think a punk ass chunnin is taking down an S-class Shinobi lol.

@Ben why would a gated child be faster than Gai in base?

 

[blazekev90]

Kakashi walking is faster than SRA Neji and the Fodder Jounin who beat up Kido lol.

I'm not arguing this anymore if you really think a punk ass chunnin is taking down an S-class Shinobi lol.

@Ben why would a gated child be faster than Gai in base?

Without gentle fist, being faster is key. Kakashi has proven that privilege, Hidan has not.

Rank matters? Lol poor fellow, have a good day.

 

[BLAZE]

Kakashi walking is faster than SRA Neji and the Fodder Jounin who beat up Kido lol.

I'm not arguing this anymore if you really think a punk ass chunnin is taking down an S-class Shinobi lol.

hey man we all know kidomaru also beats part 1 orochimaru[without edo's] on whom ce sasuke without training with kakashi landed hits.its obvious he traps him in his webs and kills him.

did you see how fast neji striked.oro has no such feats :lol

 

[blazekev90]

hey man we all know kidomaru also beats part 1 orochimaru[without edo's] on whom ce sasuke without training with kakashi landed hits.its obvious he traps him in his webs and kills him.

did you see how fast neji striked.oro has no such feats :lol

"Can't beat em, join em."

That futon counter tho!! GG Lmao. Try again. Just another day. =D

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi walking is faster than SRA Neji and the Fodder Jounin who beat up Kido lol.

I'm not arguing this anymore if you really think a punk ass chunnin is taking down an S-class Shinobi lol.

@Ben why would a gated child be faster than Gai in base?

what does him being a child have to do with anything?

Are we reading the same manga?

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5th gate lee>base guy in speed yes or no.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I thought it was due to the pretentious mensa scholars that belittle people's opinions based on bias one sided logical analysis.

But who knows XD

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OT: Hidan's stupid, Even if he has the speed or whatever to dodge Kidomaru's webs, his masochism will cause him to run in head first, getting caught.

guy has gates and long range attacks tho.

And fire, which he can burn the thread with as we saw with Amaterasu.

 

[BLAZE]

"Can't beat em, join em."

That futon counter tho!! GG Lmao. Try again. Just another day. =D

oh the same fuuton failed to do damage to part 1 sakura.nah man
he ends up geting caught in web and dies

 

[blazekev90]

oh the same fuuton failed to do damage to part 1 sakura.nah man
he ends up geting caught in web and dies

The same one used strategically to separate them, not harm them? Or the one that left Hiruzen on his ass and two anbu laid flat...you pick. Just make it a mental note, as any further quotes will reside under my notifications for the remainder of the day. =D

 

[BLAZE]

The same one used strategically to separate them, not harm them? Or the one that left Hiruzen on his ass and two anbu laid flat...you pick.

it failed to damage part 1 sakura so why should i care
if i use logic i see Hidan keeping up with kakashi even for short amount of time or capturing a bijuu or getting acknowledged by both Asuma and Kakashi is above part1 neji in speed,But we are not talking about logic we are talking about your bs :lol

Just make it a mental note, as any further quotes will reside under my notifications for the remainder of the day. =D

Funny coming from someone who quoted me first.refrain from getting butthurt everytime orochimaru is brought and same shitty logic is used on him that u use on others

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Lol so if Gai was in this scenario would you say the same? Him having a single means of attack automatically means he loses? No, the multiple means of attack mean nothing when Hidan can avoid and tank everything he has.

They can fight all afternoon, that forests going to be covered in unbreakable webs eventually. It's a waiting game, of course Hidan is agile but even if Hidan has unlimited stamina forever, it's still a tie. Unless Hidan learns Gentle Fist real fast or pulls a gold scythe out his ass that is.

Could argue the Spider summon requires rotation-like speed or that Kidomaru can fashion Sticky Gold armour into blades, not just arrows but I don't even need to.

I'm a massive Hidan fan but it's literally the nature of the match-up. It's down to Kishimoto not being able to flesh out his scythe's capabilities that he's an incomplete character combat-wise.

 

[Zexion~]

They can fight all afternoon, that forests going to be covered in unbreakable webs eventually. It's a waiting game, of course Hidan is agile but even if Hidan has unlimited stamina forever, it's still a tie. Unless Hidan learns Gentle Fist real fast or pulls a gold scythe out his ass that is.

Could argue the Spider summon requires rotation-like speed or that Kidomaru can fashion Sticky Gold armour into blades, not just arrows but I don't even need to.

I'm a massive Hidan fan but it's literally the nature of the match-up. It's down to Kishimoto not being able to flesh out his scythe's capabilities that he's an incomplete character combat-wise.

Kido ran out of chakra fighting fodder Jounin, Hidan will outlast him even if you think he won't touch him (which is absurd)