[Discussion] My biggest complaint about sanji (Rant)

[Punk Hazard]

Dude this doesn't havve to be an argument, you know that right? Like you're arguing over how some person you've never met feels about a comic book from japan. And you can't tell someone there opinion is wrong because its an opinion neither right nor wrong. I like cake. Are you going to argue that?

I'm not arguing your opinion. I couldn't care less whether or not you like Sanji or his character or the writing.. I'm arguing against your reasonings WHY. If you say "I like cake because meat is tasty" and I say "Cake doesn't have meat in it," I am not arguing with you for liking cake, I'm arguing the basis of your opinions.

yes and the current state of both there maximum strengths have never been explore but how sanji has been portrayed has been weaker.

No he hasn't. The only times Zoro has looked better since the timeskip started are against weak opponents on a level that Sanji could also fodderize. Zoro beating children doesn't make him look better than Sanji, because Sanji can beat children too.

He also beat up a bunch of workers and un-named fishmen and for all we know yonji could be the strength of a turtle or a yonko or anything inbetween. But against an on screen 1v1 fight we have watched we have yet to see sanji by himself win.

This just shows how weak the basis for your opinions are. Now you're changing it up. First it was Sanji has taken zero Ws. Then it was Sanji has taken zero Ws by himself. Then it was Sanji has taken zero Ws by himself on-screen. The fact that you're changing your parameters every time your "arguments" are debunked shows that you didn't form your opinion based on the manga, you formed your opinion then went into the manga scraping around to find something to justify it.

Try it the other way around, you might actually start understanding the manga if you do.

Yes but remember when we first met sanji he could control it. He lost that. He lost the ability to control himself. HE lost his basic ammount of agency as a human being.

Sanji's control hasn't gotten any better or worse.

You forgot to add the panel in zou where Zoro commented that he is worth 2000 men. Clear sign of rivalry.

This as well.

 

[Bogard]

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[ToshiZO]

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Damn this pisses me off, really did Sanji dirty, still can't believe he was reduced to a damsel and not given that strong mate portrayal.

Zoro got it on (Romance Dawn), Jimbei got it (FI), Law got it (Dressrosa), Sanji got to be Nico Robin and Nami when it was his time to be saved. Can never forget this, someone needs to hit me with the neuralizer from Men in Black.

But this made it clear which direction Oda decided to go with regarding Sanji, he continues to separate who he thinks stand as near equals with Luffy and those who are clear cut characters whom Luffy sees as vulnerable.

 

[Love Cook]

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lol what a poor and subjective selection of fragments. You can do that for anybody, depending on the pages you pick.

You don't fool anybody with your fox news tactics.

Damn this pisses me off, really did Sanji dirty, still can't believe he was reduced to a damsel and not given that strong mate portrayal.

Zoro got it on (Romance Dawn), Jimbei got it (FI), Law got it (Dressrosa), Sanji got to be Nico Robin and Nami when it was his time to be saved. Can never forget this, someone needs to hit me with the neuralizer from Men in Black.

But this made it clear which direction Oda decided to go with regarding Sanji, he continues to separate who he thinks stand as near equals with Luffy and those who are clear cut characters whom Luffy sees as vulnerable.

Yeah would be real exciting if Sanji would have the exact same personalty as other people you named. Would make for a way more interesting story.

And if you want to go back to Romance Dawn for portrayal, were you really unable to find anything for Sanji ? Sure you did buddy, but that doesn't mind. Because you're so bitter that you're seizing every opportunity to try and land a blow on Sanji. It's to bad that you're so bad at coming up with quality arguments or otherwise people might have gone along with your bullshit. But ut has become a bit of a lone wolf operation.

You might not have liked it, but Sanji had quality content during the WCI arc. And him knocking a tooth out of Luffy's mouth is something that you will never understand. And he still gets to redeem himself in the eyes of his family and crew. So just be careful with what you're saying. You could make an even bigger fool out of yourself if you think Oda will leave Sanji hanging.

 

[Itachi Minato]

Only issue I've had with him is the fact he thought Luffy would leave. I'm sure he's about to get his chance to shine.

 

[ToshiZO]

lol what a poor and subjective selection of fragments. You can do that for anybody, depending on the pages you pick.

You don't fool anybody with your fox news tactics.



Yeah would be real exciting if Sanji would have the exact same personalty as other people you named. Would make for a way more interesting story.

And if you want to go back to Romance Dawn for portrayal, were you really unable to find anything for Sanji ? Sure you did buddy, but that doesn't mind. Because you're so bitter that you're seizing every opportunity to try and land a blow on Sanji. It's to bad that you're so bad at coming up with quality arguments or otherwise people might have gone along with your bullshit. But ut has become a bit of a lone wolf operation.

You might not have liked it, but Sanji had quality content during the WCI arc. And him knocking a tooth out of Luffy's mouth is something that you will never understand. And he still gets to redeem himself in the eyes of his family and crew. So just be careful with what you're saying. You could make an even bigger fool out of yourself if you think Oda will leave Sanji hanging.

Are Law, Jimbei and Zoro the same character to you? So if Sanji didn't look like a princess he would be a copy of those 3 guys? Lmfao look at you go.

 

[Love Cook]

Are Law, Jimbei and Zoro the same character to you? So if Sanji didn't look like a princess he would be a copy of those 3 guys? Lmfao look at you go.

Not what I said but whatever. The only thing I said is that even if he looked like a "princess", which is already a bit of degrading and sexist to say that. There is nothing wrong with that. Because he literally is a prince. And even with him having to be saved is nothing wrong. He got himself into that position because he saved his crew in the first place and now they're getting him out. Just because it isn't your style doesn't mean it isn't nobody's style.

Just let other people have their opinion and their fun. Sanji had a fantastic year of content, and I'm sure Oda will end it fittingly against a yonkou. Because the only reason Luffy is fighting right now is because of Sanji. He still is the main reason this all is going on.

 

[ToshiZO]

Not what I said but whatever. The only thing I said is that even if he looked like a "princess", which is already a bit of degrading and sexist to say that. There is nothing wrong with that. Because he literally is a prince. And even with him having to be saved is nothing wrong. He got himself into that position because he saved his crew in the first place and now they're getting him out. Just because it isn't your style doesn't mean it isn't nobody's style.

You're the one who replied to my post about being disappointed with the direction Oda went with him. Why are you acting like it's the other way around?

 

[Love Cook]

You're the one who replied to my post about being disappointed with the direction Oda went with him. Why are you acting like it's the other way around?

Taste is subjective, but to not base it on the right facts still can make you wrong.

I'm perfectly fine with you having your own opinion but if you're talking out of your ass I will tell you why you don't make any sense.

If you can't understand the difference, you shouldn't even be here.

 

[ToshiZO]

Taste is subjective, but to not base it on the right facts still can make you wrong.

I'm perfectly fine with you having your own opinion but if you're talking out of your ass I will tell you why you don't make any sense.

If you can't understand the difference, you shouldn't even be here.

I'm confused what you're even talking about rn tbh. You hit me with this "just because it isn't your style doesn't mean it isn't nobody's style."

I literally said I don't like the direction he went, wtf that got to do with "right facts"?

All I can say rn, is I don't care?

 

[Love Cook]

I'm confused what you're even talking about rn tbh. You hit me with this "just because it isn't your style doesn't mean it isn't nobody's style."

I literally said I don't like the direction he went, wtf that got to do with "right facts"?

All I can say rn, is I don't care?

I can't be helped that you can't remember more than just your latest post. Now stop wasting space on the internet.

 

[ToshiZO]

I can't be helped that you can't remember more than just your latest post. Now stop wasting space on the internet.

Ok ok, thou art right Sanji senpai, protector of all that is good and righteous.

 

[LBeezy]

Love Cook you've fallen dude. You used to make good posts but it went to shit ever since the "Year of Sanji" started.

 

[Kushina89]

loserbeezy is officially the most retarded member in this section
you must be one hell of an idiot to post bs on that level

definitely in the same tier as nds rats

 

[LBeezy]

Hop off sack

 

[Love Cook]

Love Cook you've fallen dude. You used to make good posts but it went to shit ever since the "Year of Sanji" started.

So original, resorting to copy my posts because you have nothing better to counter it with. I should be flattered honestly.

Beezy you've fallen dude. You used to make good posts but it went to shit ever since the Whole Cake Island arc started.

But the difference between my post and your watered down rip-off is that there is a base to it. People have experienced your tardiness firsthand. You're getting ridiculed in the threads you come. You're only playing defense after making troll statements. You're not being taken serious anymore. And when that happens you've fucked yourself on a forum.

Don't forget that I will make you eat that Big Mom avatar when this arc is over. If you haven't pussied out by then.

 

[LBeezy]

So original, resorting to copy my posts because you have nothing better to counter it with. I should be flattered honestly.




But the difference between my post and your watered down rip-off is that there is a base to it. People have experienced your tardiness firsthand. You're getting ridiculed in the threads you come. You're only playing defense after making troll statements. You're not being taken serious anymore. And when that happens you've fucked yourself on a forum.

Don't forget that I will make you eat that Big Mom avatar when this arc is over. If you haven't pussied out by then.

You're such a troll dude.. smh.. not cool.