Who can Kidomaru beat in Akatsuki?

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Manga says otherwise. Hidan wad outsmarted twice and duped once by kakashi

If the fight is close range yes hidan would tear kido apart if he doesnt have his armor

If the fight is long range hidan doesn't stand a chance. Especially since hidan is not a sensor

Even neji had difficulty finding kido in the forest
Lol when was he ever "duped" by Kakashi?

Hidan sees where the arrows are coming from and will blitz towards that area, and he can traverse the tree's fine.
 

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Lol when was he ever "duped" by Kakashi?

Hidan sees where the arrows are coming from and will blitz towards that area, and he can traverse the tree's fine.
Considering Kidomaru is capable of controlling his arrows AND creating traps I dont see it happening as easy as you state.

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EVEN IF Hidan can run towards his direction how will he find him?

EDIT: Apologies Shika duped him three times not kakashi
 
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Considering Kidomaru is capable of controlling his arrows AND creating traps I dont see it happening as easy as you state.

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EVEN IF Hidan can run towards his direction how will he find him?

EDIT: Apologies Shika duped him three times not kakashi
Lol the fact that he NEEDED to fire in Neji's blindspot to hit him means that literally nothing is touching Hidan my man.

Shikamaru "duped" him twice lol him figuring out Hidan's circle doesn't count as a dupe, and both those times Kakuzu fell for the same strategy, and he was portrayed to be rather intelligent. Don't forgot Hidan "duped" Asuma twice as well lol
 

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Lol the fact that he NEEDED to fire in Neji's blindspot to hit him means that literally nothing is touching Hidan my man.

Shikamaru "duped" him twice lol him figuring out Hidan's circle doesn't count as a dupe, and both those times Kakuzu fell for the same strategy, and he was portrayed to be rather intelligent. Don't forgot Hidan "duped" Asuma twice as well lol
He needed to fire in Neji's blind spot due to Neji being able to counter his attacks with Jyuken by cutting the chakra thus neutralizing its durability. Hidan has durability but without being able to cut the chakra within Kido's attacks he won't be fast enough to dodge unless you willing to state Rotation is slower than Hidan's scythe which based on manga Hidan himself stated he was slow with the Scythe.
 

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ahhh now we getting somewhere. This is why i brought up tobirama. We dont know what happened however based on their feats shown in the manga we can assume them in a group is less effective than being seperate.
Tayuya flute is probably useless
Kido web and summon is possibly useless
I dont know what happened but as i said before we can only assume.
If we go off of off panel feats then minato beats tobirama since
Tobirama died to elite jounin
Minato beat countless jounin
Deductive reasoning however says: that cant be the case as there is not enough evidence
dude do you even manga.sometimes your arguments are really bad.You only read certain parts of manga completely ignore rest of it make a fiction based on it and argue over it over and over again and again

Actually they never did. most fans believe the Gin/Kin bros were involved
i thought someone would actually post this

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He needed to fire in Neji's blind spot due to Neji being able to counter his attacks with Jyuken by cutting the chakra thus neutralizing its durability. Hidan has durability but without being able to cut the chakra within Kido's attacks he won't be fast enough to dodge unless you willing to state Rotation is slower than Hidan's scythe which based on manga Hidan himself stated he was slow with the Scythe.
You're not getting what I said....at all.

He needed to fire where Neji couldn't see because he could react when seen. IF PART ONE NEJI CAN REACT HIDAN IS AVOIDING THEM AND LAUGHING WHILE DOING SO.

I don't know why you think he needs to cut everything with his scythe, the webs are dodged and the arrows are literal child's play.

Your argument has literally been "Kidomaru has traps and webs gg" lol when in reality (idrk what "Traps" he has persay) but everything else Hidan is never being touched by, not the spiders, not the arrows not the webs. ESPECIALLY when Kido is 20+ meters away camping in a tree.
 

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Name two shinobi that can take on all sound 4 at cm level2?
Are you aware of what power creep is?

Everything in part 1 was just a bunch of kids playing games, just because it looked so cool and well drawn doesn't mean it even amounts to a single blink from an elite Jounin.

Asuma would take out the sound 4 by himself in 10 secs flat if they are close enough to each other.

Lmfao it's the same thing with Neji and his fans obsession with his godly CQC "look at his CQC so sweet, hands drawn so fast", Kurenai would bitch slap him across Konoha faster than Neji could even think.
 

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You're not getting what I said....at all.

He needed to fire where Neji couldn't see because he could react when seen. IF PART ONE NEJI CAN REACT HIDAN IS AVOIDING THEM AND LAUGHING WHILE DOING SO.

I don't know why you think he needs to cut everything with his scythe, the webs are dodged and the arrows are literal child's play.

Your argument has literally been "Kidomaru has traps and webs gg" lol when in reality (idrk what "Traps" he has persay) but everything else Hidan is never being touched by, not the spiders, not the arrows not the webs. ESPECIALLY when Kido is 20+ meters away camping in a tree.
So your telling me Hidan's vision and hindsight is superior to Nejis?
 
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Lol based off what? Speed feats :rolleyes:
Yes.....matching shinobi who far outclass Kidomaru, Part 1 Neji and the Jounin that gave them so much trouble lol

So your telling me Hidan's vision and hindsight is superior to Nejis?
I'm telling you his reactions are better than part 1 Neji's yes lol as is his speed which is all that is needed here. Vision doesn't mean shit when he can react to the arrows and webs as they come even in a forest.
 

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Yes.....matching shinobi who far outclass Kidomaru, Part 1 Neji and the Jounin that gave them so much trouble lol



I'm telling you his reactions are better than part 1 Neji's yes lol as is his speed which is all that is needed here. Vision doesn't mean shit when he can react to the arrows and webs as they come even in a forest.
Hidan is by far one of the most agile and reactive shinobi in this series but based on Kidomaru's feats and how durable his abilities are I still dont see Hidan beating him in a forest.

You stated Hidan can follow the arrows
I stated Kidomaru can control arrows at will for misdirection and tracking.

But anyways are you saying speed > Kidomaru's entire arsenal in a forest?

Are you aware of what power creep is?

Everything in part 1 was just a bunch of kids playing games, just because it looked so cool and well drawn doesn't mean it even amounts to a single blink from an elite Jounin.

Asuma would take out the sound 4 by himself in 10 secs flat if they are close enough to each other.

Lmfao it's the same thing with Neji and his fans obsession with his godly CQC "look at his CQC so sweet, hands drawn so fast", Kurenai would bitch slap him across Konoha faster than Neji could even think.
So does this apply to ALL Part 1 feats or subjective to whatever you feel is creeping? If it applies to all then i can agree if it doesn't apply to ALL then its bias based on what you consider is creeping and what isnt.
 
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You're not getting what I said....at all.

He needed to fire where Neji couldn't see because he could react when seen. IF PART ONE NEJI CAN REACT HIDAN IS AVOIDING THEM AND LAUGHING WHILE DOING SO.

I don't know why you think he needs to cut everything with his scythe, the webs are dodged and the arrows are literal child's play.

Your argument has literally been "Kidomaru has traps and webs gg" lol when in reality (idrk what "Traps" he has persay) but everything else Hidan is never being touched by, not the spiders, not the arrows not the webs. ESPECIALLY when Kido is 20+ meters away camping in a tree.
part 1 neji can see everything in a 50m radius though... that means he has 50 meters to react.
 

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Kido shit himself over the idea of the entire Sound 4 having to fight Kakashi, and they almost lost to two special jounin.

This kinda shit is why this section of the forum is a laughing stock.
 

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Kido shit himself over the idea of the entire Sound 4 having to fight Kakashi, and they almost lost to two special jounin.

This kinda shit is why this section of the forum is a laughing stock.
I thought it was due to the pretentious mensa scholars that belittle people's opinions based on bias one sided logical analysis.

But who knows XD
 

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I thought it was due to the pretentious mensa scholars that belittle people's opinions based on bias one sided logical analysis.

But who knows XD
You opened up a thread called "who can Kidomaru beat in the akatsuki?" though. You're asking people to ignore the entire makeup of the manga, like there has to be a baseline level of reasonability, this is just no effort.
 

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Kido shit himself over the idea of the entire Sound 4 having to fight Kakashi, and they almost lost to two special jounin.

This kinda shit is why this section of the forum is a laughing stock.
but best believe if you made a thread of sound 4 vs kakashi part1 or even early part 2. sound 4 stomp. lol
 

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Are you aware of what power creep is?

Everything in part 1 was just a bunch of kids playing games, just because it looked so cool and well drawn doesn't mean it even amounts to a single blink from an elite Jounin.

Asuma would take out the sound 4 by himself in 10 secs flat if they are close enough to each other.

Lmfao it's the same thing with Neji and his fans obsession with his godly CQC "look at his CQC so sweet, hands drawn so fast", Kurenai would bitch slap him across Konoha faster than Neji could even think.
Lmaoo this is the realest thing I've read on this site in all of 2017.
 

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but best believe if you made a thread of sound 4 vs kakashi part1 or even early part 2. sound 4 stomp. lol
Nope due to power creeping and based on Sound 4 fearing Kakashi IF Kakashi fought them they would lose hands down regardless of feats or lack thereof. :) lol

You opened up a thread called "who can Kidomaru beat in the akatsuki?" though. You're asking people to ignore the entire makeup of the manga, like there has to be a baseline level of reasonability, this is just no effort.
gotta keep the discussions going mayne. Its the internet everyone has an opinion.

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Yes.....matching shinobi who far outclass Kidomaru, Part 1 Neji and the Jounin that gave them so much trouble lol



I'm telling you his reactions are better than part 1 Neji's yes lol as is his speed which is all that is needed here. Vision doesn't mean shit when he can react to the arrows and webs as they come even in a forest.
You meaning chasing behind Kakashi? As he dodging multiple opponents? Laughable.

Hidan isn't blitzing. He has no speed feats to suggest he'd close the distance between Kidomaru reacting. He lacks hand speed to deflect a mass number of webs being shot at him consistently.
 
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