Sasuke vs Neji in chunin exam
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Chunnin Exams Sasuke > Chunnin Exams Neji
I dont even know why people are still disagreeing with that when clearly Sasuke has shown the best feats at that point in time.
I dont even know why people are still disagreeing with that when clearly Sasuke has shown the best feats at that point in time.
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I can't believe people actually think Sasuke would beat Neji.
The fight vs Naruto proved Neji would tear Sasuke apart.
Using Gaara as an example against neji is bad. TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FIGHTING STYLES
Why?
Gaara's fighting style is sitting in his sand ball and only attacking/defending with it. That works great unless someone is quick enough to get around the sand. Then Gaara is simply easy to take down as shown many times.
Neji however uses Gentle fist which is based on the art of counter and defensive measures.
Hyuga don't attack their targets they await their targets to attack them. This will be Sasuke's downfall as he is always the aggressor in fights.
The Naruto vs Neji fight was pure BS especially since Kurama saved Naruto twice.
You guys talk about Sasuke's speed but what of Neji's striking speed?
In this image he lands those attacks simultaneously. There is no way Sasuke is dodging that.
Furthermore, Neji tanked Naruto's Kyuubi Cloak
showing Neji can tank whatever Sasuke throws at him
Ill say it once and ill saay it again. Hyuga are the kings of CQC**
The fight vs Naruto proved Neji would tear Sasuke apart.
Using Gaara as an example against neji is bad. TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FIGHTING STYLES
Why?
Gaara's fighting style is sitting in his sand ball and only attacking/defending with it. That works great unless someone is quick enough to get around the sand. Then Gaara is simply easy to take down as shown many times.
Neji however uses Gentle fist which is based on the art of counter and defensive measures.
Hyuga don't attack their targets they await their targets to attack them. This will be Sasuke's downfall as he is always the aggressor in fights.
The Naruto vs Neji fight was pure BS especially since Kurama saved Naruto twice.
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You guys talk about Sasuke's speed but what of Neji's striking speed?
In this image he lands those attacks simultaneously. There is no way Sasuke is dodging that.
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Furthermore, Neji tanked Naruto's Kyuubi Cloak
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showing Neji can tank whatever Sasuke throws at him
Ill say it once and ill saay it again. Hyuga are the kings of CQC**
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Its the Hyuuga fans. They are into fanfics. Exit the thread once you see them enter. Dont bother replying
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Lmao this post is chock full of terrible logic and claims you can't even support.
-Neji hit Naruto at a quick speed thus Sasuke can't dodge.
Based on what? Oh wait, nothing.
-Neji tanked Naruto's Kyuubi cloak, thus he tanks Sasuke's attacks.
Based on what? Oh wait, nothing. Naruto's physical attacks in this faux KN0 mode are not anywhere near the power of Chidori or Rasengan. Chidori has superior feats. It's equal Rasengan has superior feats. Not to mention Neji didn't tank a damn thing. :lol He ended up on the floor. He barely blocked it.
"Hyuuga don't attack, they counter attack thus Sasuke loses"
That's not an argument. This post is full of statements. Not arguments. If I wasn't sure about Sasuke beating Neji before I'm definitely 100% sure he does now considering it seems to be too hard for the around 5-6 people who have posted in Neji's favor to post a good argument that doesn't rely on the extrapolation and exaggeration of Neji's feats.
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Kakashi out right says Sasuke would lose to Neji and we're the ones with the fanfiction. :lol
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-Kakashi states that CE Prelims Sasuke would lose to Neji.
-Hyuuga fanboy (or girl?) thinks that applies to CE Finals Neji and CE Finals Sasuke.
:lol So yes, you guys are trying to rewrite the Manga in your favor as usual. Delusional.
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Because one Chidori and Lee's speed, which Neji can counter in both cases, makes so much of a difference.
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Yes, Sasuke and Kakashi's training made a very large difference and only a biased fanboy would claim otherwise. Sasuke went from far weaker than the likes of Lee and Neji to being seen as capable of defeating Gaara. Please don't sit there and try to tell anyone that it doesn't make a large difference.
As for Neji being able to counter all this in combination, I've yet to see any convincing or accurate argumentation on the matter. Just more exaggeration and wanking. :lol
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>Ask a Hyuga fan why Rotation tanks a certain attack.
"Because it spins and deflects chakra".
:lol
>Ask a Hyuga fan why Sasuke (or anyone) stands no chance in CQC
"When he strikes so many different impact marks are drawn at the same time, meaning he landed all those strikes at the same exact moment. There's no way anyone could dodge that".
"Chidori gets deflected because Neji is such a Taijutsu expert and because Itachi has shown us it's possible"
"Hyuga's fight defensively, thus they always have an outstanding advantage in CQC".
:lol
(insert scans of Neji fodderizing HINATA OF ALL PEOPLE as evidence for these claims)
>Ask a Hyuga fan how Air Palm is so powerful
"It's ranged Gentle Fist"
lol) Internal damage ftw!
Lmao not sure why you guys seem to be under the impression that because Neji's moves are depicted to be swift that it equates to his moves being the best out of everyone's. Are you going to argue that Neji defeats Tsunade in close combat because Neji has shown a swift APPEARING fighting style while Tsunade's doesn't APPEAR to be as swift? I hope not.
"Because it spins and deflects chakra".
:lol
>Ask a Hyuga fan why Sasuke (or anyone) stands no chance in CQC
"When he strikes so many different impact marks are drawn at the same time, meaning he landed all those strikes at the same exact moment. There's no way anyone could dodge that".
"Chidori gets deflected because Neji is such a Taijutsu expert and because Itachi has shown us it's possible"
"Hyuga's fight defensively, thus they always have an outstanding advantage in CQC".
:lol
(insert scans of Neji fodderizing HINATA OF ALL PEOPLE as evidence for these claims)
>Ask a Hyuga fan how Air Palm is so powerful
"It's ranged Gentle Fist"
lol) Internal damage ftw!Lmao not sure why you guys seem to be under the impression that because Neji's moves are depicted to be swift that it equates to his moves being the best out of everyone's. Are you going to argue that Neji defeats Tsunade in close combat because Neji has shown a swift APPEARING fighting style while Tsunade's doesn't APPEAR to be as swift? I hope not.
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Everyone is biased and an idiot if they disagree with you.
Sasuke being able to fight on par with Gaara, a long ranged shinobi who sucks at taijutsu, doesn't mean he'd beat Neji with a few extra powers, especially when Neji himself also improved his taijutsu to the point of learning 64 Palms and Rotation, the latter of which would render Chidori useless. Not to mention Sasuke would very likely not even attempt his 2-times-a-day-or-I-die Chidori on an opponent like Neji with how much risk it has, especially against the Chakra-deflecting Rotation which blew away Bijuu Chakra, so there's no reason it wouldn't deflect something weaker than a Rasengan. And Sasuke's increase in speed would be meaningless when Neji can already keep up with Lee's speed.
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As a believer in manga facts I always stand by what I state and most the time we agree on outcomes but anyways
@bold My Neji strike/reaction speed is based on what Lee said while in gates mode:
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This tells me that Sasuke speed is not enough to GG Neji as he was using Lee's normal speed
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Are you really going to sit here and say Chidori can pierce Rotation?
Rotation literally blocked everything thrown at it the entire series up until the War Arc where it could not block all the Senjutsu Mokuton Sharpnel fired at extreme speeds.
I made that post mainly to explain that you can't compare Gaara and Neji's fighting styles. Gaara is a 1 trick poney. Once your pass his sand its GG for him as he never blocks or evaded back then. Just took a beating. Neji however entire fighting style is designed behind counter attacks and for Lee to need gates to get pass that defense AND the image of Neji striking naruto is more than enough to show me that he can take Sasuke
Neji's striking speed based on Lee and FEATS clearly show that Sasuke would be in trouble fighting him CQC
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Please don't start whining. You're biased because you are acting biased like you always do when a thread involves a Hyuga. Simple as that. Don't try to tell me otherwise and don't act like I'm the only one in this thread who thinks so. :lol
Where did I say that Sasuke being able to push Gaara translates to Sasuke defeating Neji? Nowhere. :lol
Where is the evidence Rotation can repel Chidori? 6 pages and not a soul has provided anything reminiscent of a Manga scan. Instead I see this "it deflected Naruto's punch" as evidence. Yet you guys can't even show that Naruto's punch is stronger than Chidori. Though it's obvious to anyone who doesn't have an agenda to push here that Chidori has the better feats and always will have the better feats. Everyone saw Naruto's power against Neji yet they were all surprised, including Naruto, that Sasuke ripped right through Gaara's defense. So we can stop now. "Blew away Bijuu chakra" I love how you mentioned that to make the attack seem more powerful than it really was.
The bold shows that you have a one track mind. Lee's speed on top of an attack that can damage Neji is the threat here, not Lee's speed alone. Stop trying to separate the two. Neji being able to keep up with Sasuke doesn't mean that he wins nor does it mean that the speed doesn't have any effect on the outcome of the match. Your logic:
"Base Naruto gets destroyed by Ay, and his increase in speed from KCM wouldn't help him one bit since Ay can still keep up"
Yet that is obviously not true. :lol
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You're doing the same thing Lady Byakugan is doing. You think that because Neji can react to Sasuke's speed, Sasuke's speed is a non factor even though that makes zero sense as I've posted above. Sasuke's speed alone isn't what will take out Neji so saying that his speed won't be enough doesn't change the outcome. What that shows is that Neji can react well enough to 5G Lee to touch him, which is all he needs. How does that translate to Sasuke losing? It doesn't that's how, because speed is only one part of his abilities.
Yes, because Chidori pierced Gaara's strongest Sand Dome, and Gaara's Sand has always and will always have stronger feats than Rotation. Rotation blocked everything that was thrown at it until Naruto punched Neji and almost got through despite Rotation being incomplete.
No one is comparing their fighting styles and that's the point you seem to be missing. Sasuke's feats AGAINST Gaara are what support him being able to do what people are saying he can do against Neji. Simple as that. Neji's style focusing on counter attacks is irrelevant. That doesn't give him any edge in an all out battle whatsoever. The image of Neji striking Naruto on it's own isn't evidence because that is not a way to quantify his speed nor is it a way to compare his speed to Sasuke's and say that Sasuke has no chance. Another point you seem to be missing entirely.
There are no feats showing that Neji would comfortably defeat Sasuke. None at all. The two main feats you've mentioned here only show that Neji is fast, and that he strikes fast enough to land hits on Base Naruto. Meanwhile other feats show that Sasuke has the firepower to break through his defense and that Sasuke is on Neji's level in speed. (so I have no idea why you are acting like the gap is so large)
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No. What I said clearly in that post is exactly what I mean. Neji having a style focused on counters (which is hardly true in the first place) doesn't give him any overwhelming advantage in this fight.
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It's a Chakra deflecting attack and we saw it do so against Bjuu Chakra. One that Tenten noted does more damage on the one approaching, which would be Sasuke in this case.
Cool, I never said that.
It managed to pierce through Gaara's sand, which does nothing but block, while Neji's block, repels, and damages.
This is irrelevant.
Bijuu Chakra isn't powerful it would seem.
Doesn't mean Sasuke wins either.
Fact remains that Neji's reflexes > Sasuke's/Lee's speed, Neji's speed > Sasuke's/Lee's, and Neji's taijutsu > Sasuke's/Lee's taijutsu before he even learned 64 Palms, which itself would mean his reflexes/taijutsu increased. Lee had to resort to the 5th Gate just to stand a chance against him.
Let's ignore KCM's other buffs and act like its the same.
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