Perfect Susano'o vs Kyuubi

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so he is saying getting under 3T genjutsu grants bijuu extra feats

damn :lmao:

and when i call him on that stupid shit he's saying im "assuming"

he won't come out and say it so i can add it to my sig but yeah that's his line of logic.

Even though they have names, minds, and personalities and have shown that they know their abilities better than everyone and anyone else

hin his mind there still "mindless beasts"
 

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and when i call him on that stupid shit he's saying im "assuming"

he won't come out and say it so i can add it to my sig but yeah that's his line of logic.

Even though they have names, minds, and personalities and have shown that they know their abilities better than everyone and anyone else

hin his mind there still "mindless beasts"

Lol kurama told naruto about sasuke's rinnegan's weakness in fight

Damn so mindless
 

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does that change his power in any way whatsoever?

Concession accepted.




its a poor point. In the context of this discussion it does.

No it's not, you just don't like it because it points out the obvious flaw in the logic you're trying to use.

There's 0 reason why kurama wouldn't do.

Just like there was 0 reason Kurama wouldn't spam it when fighting an entire village. Didn't stop Kurama from not doing it now did it? Your opinion means nothing to me if the best you got is "hurr durr he did it before".

character biases don't play a role here unless specifically stated in the op. Which it wasn't.

I take characters as IC unless an OP says otherwise therefore I have no

because we saw the entire fight between gyuuki and ay right? oh wait no we didn't nor does it matter.

We don't need to have seen the entire fight. By your logic everyone should be dead due to mass Bijuudama spam and yet he constantly got sealed right back in the pot and put inside multiple people. AN example that goes against the logic that you're trying to use.

technically we've never seen shukaku use bijudama, are you gonna come out and say he can't do it period?

Seeing as how he's a Bijuu, I'd assume so.

same as the above^
same as the above^

We've seen a Bijuudama from those two already.

he didnt do it when obito had contol over him either, are you gonna say only madara can make kurama do it?

I'm not sure if trolling or not smart enough to comprehend my point.

half kurama and again irrelevent.

Kurama being half doesn't stop him from spamming Bijuudamas and concession accepted.

you misunderstand. because they wont doesn't mean they cant.

Well no shit sherlocke, no one said they couldn't, the only one misunderstanding anything here is you.




outside of kurama and gyuki already doing it. :lmao:

By themselves, without Jins or being controlled? Where?

sure fam, kurama can only do it when under madara's 3 tome genjutsu. Without it hes limited to 1 :rolleyes:

So at this point it seems that you're more along the lines of stupid rather then trolling since you clearly don't understand my point which isn't rocket science.
 

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Lol @mindless kurama. This isn't pokemon...well kind of.
 

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Concession accepted.
so you cant answer my question then.






No it's not, you just don't like it because it points out the obvious flaw in the logic you're trying to use.
it actually is. You're arguing that kurama can't use multiple bijudama because the only time he did was when under 3t genjutsu or as a jin, even though neither gives him new abilities.



Just like there was 0 reason Kurama wouldn't spam it when fighting an entire village. Didn't stop Kurama from not doing it now did it? Your opinion means nothing to me if the best you got is "hurr durr he did it before".
because a village is a perfect susanoo -_-


I take characters as IC unless an OP says otherwise therefore I have no
so what's in character for a perfect susanoo? oh wait? not a damn thing because its a jutsu dependant on a user. Yet youre here saying its gonna swing its blades without anyone telling it to. Without a master it can't do shit right? when has it done anything without a user controlling it?

Your bad logic in a nutshell. -_-



We don't need to have seen the entire fight. By your logic everyone should be dead due to mass Bijuudama spam and yet he constantly got sealed right back in the pot and put inside multiple people. AN example that goes against the logic that you're trying to use.
you do know how the sealing pot works right? Bus based off youre statement you don't.



Seeing as how he's a Bijuu, I'd assume so.
he didn't do it by himself so it never happened? right? it's "OOC" your dumbass logic.


We've seen a Bijuudama from those two already.
while controlled by obito. According to you without someone to control the "mindless beasts" they can't/wont do it. After all they never did it while free of control. Even though all of that bullshit it bad assumptions on your part.


I'm not sure if trolling or not smart enough to comprehend my point.
your point is as i've said earlier poor.


Kurama being half doesn't stop him from spamming Bijuudamas and concession accepted.
meaning its well within his ability. Stop trying to deny him his feats



Well no shit sherlocke, no one said they couldn't, the only one misunderstanding anything here is you.

"If you can't show me Kurama doing it right off the bat when he's a mindless beast or in control(not an Uchiha's pet) then why should I believe your claim

you said it




By themselves, without Jins or being controlled? Where?
again since when does being a jin or being under control grant them new abilities?

So at this point it seems that you're more along the lines of stupid rather then trolling since you clearly don't understand my point which isn't rocket science.

youre trying to say its not in character for him to do it. Even though:
a) in character was mentioned nowhere in the op and has no relevance here unless pointed out by op
b) you don't know what his character would be when facing up against a perfect susanoo and constantly use lesser opponents to try guage what he would do even though its a futile attempt
c)youre assuming he needs jinchuriki or sharingan to use his own techniques even though hes the one in control when using it against the juub:
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Same also applies to gyuki since its him performing the technique not killer b.
d) perfect susanoo has no character to speak of, and unlike kurama it is actually mindless.So all the shit your giving kurama would also(by your logic cannot stress that enough) apply to PS even though you're perfectly fine with giving it a mind to swing off at kurama.

Yeah kys with this stupid shit.



Lol @mindless kurama. This isn't pokemon...well kind of.

even wild animals in pokemon use all of their abilities. They don't need a trainer to tell them/control them thats how fcking stupid his logic is -_-
 
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it actually is. You're arguing that kurama can't use multiple bijudama because the only time he did was when under 3t genjutsu or as a jin, even though neither gives him new abilities.

I stopped reading here because you just showed yourself to actually be that stupid. I never said that Kurama can't spam Bijuudama on his own, I even mentioned it in my first post. What I've been saying is that it's not likely that he will spam them as he(nor any other Bijuu for that matter) has spammed them by themselves while showing you how your stupid logic of "hurr durr he did it before so he'll do it again" has as much value as the shit I took 20 minutes ago(which is none) hence me bringing up the multiple times Bijuu have been in fights yet never spammed Bijuudama on their on to show you the flaw. Come back when you work on that reading comprehension skills
 

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I stopped reading here because you just showed yourself to actually be that stupid. I never said that Kurama can't spam Bijuudama on his own, I even mentioned it in my first post. What I've been saying is that it's not likely that he will spam them as he(nor any other Bijuu for that matter) has spammed them by themselves while showing you how your stupid logic of "hurr durr he did it before so he'll do it again" has as much value as the shit I took 20 minutes ago(which is none) hence me bringing up the multiple times Bijuu have been in fights yet never spammed Bijuudama on their on to show you the flaw. Come back when you work on that reading comprehension skills

i already told you why thats stupid. He's already did it against the juubi. Not naruto. KURAMA.

You Are using in character bs when it was never stated by op and his opponent has 0 character to speak of.
Not to mention the fact that him ALREADY DOING IT means its very well within possibility. -_-
 

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i already told you why thats stupid. He's already did it against the juubi. Not naruto. KURAMA.

Who do you think was in control when Kurama did it against the Juubi? It was NARUTO using the avatar. You can cry all you want but that doesn't change the fact that no Bijuu has ever went and spammed mass Bijuudamas by themselves. Therefore if it hasn't happened in the multiple times Bijuu been in fights by themselves, then I'm going with Kishi's portrayal of the Bijuu and not think that they are likely to spam 12 Bijuudama because you want Kurama to win.

You Are using in character bs when it was never stated by op and his opponent has 0 character to speak of.

It's the OP's job to list these things, if he doesn't then I'm gonna assume that everyone is in character, at a neutral location, manga knowledge is given, no restrictions, and a 10 meter distance, unless you can show me a rule that says otherwise.

Not to mention the fact that him ALREADY DOING IT means its very well within possibility. -_-

Once again, no shit sherlocke. There is a difference between saying that a character can't do something and a character isn't likely to do something.
 
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