Hinata Would Kill Sakura In A Fight

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I mean tell me how a person who's whole shtick is flowing chakra into points of her body to gain strength can go up against someone who's whole thing is to seal, manipulate and destroy chakra.


TOSS your emotional fan DEFENSE aside

USE LOGIC AND REASON
 

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Filler gifs are considered equal to canon manga scans, what have the base come to?:elmo:

The manga had shown Hinata struggling to takedown one juubi clone, when Sakura managed to end tens of them in a few seconds, that alone is enough to know which is stronger between the two.:bdpf:

I'd like to see sakura perform 64 palms on a ten-tails clone on the 1st try without fail

Its the other way around boy. is what a Byakugou user is capable of using only one finger. A gentle fist user however has to land several attacks in order to close ones chakra points. The wast majority of taijutsu users are bad match-up for CES users, because one touch can be fatal to them.

@ bold is fanfic...see the end of neji vs kidomaru where he one-shots spiderman with 1 gentle fist attack
 
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Sakura doesn't need to necessarily jump in order for her punches affects to move down range. Sakura's punches "Cherry Blossom Impact" pulverises the ground into many pieces by the excess shock and the shock waves reach is depends on the chakra she's using.

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You see how the ground in front of her was reduced to rubble? The shock from her punches traveled down or long range without having to jump.

Its far more mundane this way and it isn't killing anyone with such low power, she needs to jump into the air for it to having killing, heck, even DAMAGING capabilities.
 

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Its far more mundane this way and it isn't killing anyone with such low power, she needs to jump into the air for it to having killing, heck, even DAMAGING capabilities.

That punch is restricted as well, remember how her strength increased once she produced her seal? Sakura's cherry Blossom Impact is no joke.
 
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No, Sakura uses her power when it can be most effective or when the chances of her being useful are in her favor, Sakura is simply a smarter and better ninja for that type of reasoning.

Examples being:

> Sakura blitzing Shin when he was fixated on killing Naruto+ company and landing a deadly blow without hurting herself or being soloed. Resulting in saving her comrades...

> Hinata charging after Momoshiki, getting soloed, almost dying which still resulted with Naruto being captured.

I can't believe you say nonsense like this yet act like you're being rational with your reasoning :lmao: Where do I even begin with this? One, Sakura didn't staegtize jack, she ran in like she always does without thinking ala Madara, and what Hinata did happened off screen, and surprise surprise, like with Pain, she acted at the last second after everything went to hell.

Anyways, intelligence has nothing to do with Hinata curb stomping Sakura. Sakura is inferior in taijutsu, Chakra levels, speed, reflexes, and her taijutsu as complex as a Zetsu's, she isn't beating Hinata. Even when she was attacked by the Zetsu, we saw how she dealt with that, by attempting to block with her hands/arms, and that is a pure golden opportunity for a Gentle Fist user.

That punch is restricted as well, remember how her strength increased once she produced her seal? Sakura's cherry Blossom Impact is no joke.

I know her strength increased with the seal, but by how much is literally unknown and as far as I'm aware, there's no way to even guess it. So until YS Sakura punches the ground while standing still, we have to assume she can only use her shock wave attack by jumping first.
 
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I can't believe you say nonsense like this yet act like you're being rational with your reasoning :lmao: Where do I even begin with this? One, Sakura didn't staegtize jack, she ran in like she always does without thinking ala Madara, and what Hinata did happened off screen, and surprise surprise, like with Pain, she acted at the last second after everything went to hell.

Lmao when did I say Sakura strategically attached Shin? Or even implied that? Let me "rephrase" myself, when ever has Sakura charged in on a direct imminent threat to her comrades she does so either successfully took the danger down or didn't get herself almost killed doing it. Unlike Hinata who nearly got herself killed in both indential instances,.

Anyways, intelligence has nothing to do with Hinata curb stomping Sakura.

Lmao intelligence is just another advantage Sakura has over hinata, to the extent of Sakura out preforming Hinata and her byakugan.

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Sakura out reasoned, anayalzed or preformed Hinata in anything subject to intelligence even when her vision was inferior. This is one of many reasons why Hinata isn't in Sakura's league point, blank period.

Sakura is inferior in taijutsu, Chakra levels, speed, reflexes, and her taijutsu as complex as a Zetsu's, she isn't beating Hinata. Even when she was attacked by the Zetsu, we saw how she dealt with that, by attempting to block with her hands/arms, and that is a pure golden opportunity for a Gentle Fist user.

The only thing Hinata has over Sakura is taijutsu, that's it! Sakura is faster, smarter, stronger ect.. Sakura can literally shatters every bone in Hinata's body by just scrapping her. Not to mention Sakura's summon lol

Anyway this is redundant, your allowed to falsely believe Hinata wins because the common rational consensus is that she doesn't......
 

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You posted a scan of Hinata getting blitzed by Neji... the same kid Neji she never even surpassed (25 Chunin Exams vs. 21.5 Shippuden) Sakura's also labelled as quicker in the DB, and is clearly even faster by the end of Shippuden/Gaiden.

Sakura would blitz her before she had a chance to stutter out a "n-n-Naruto".
 

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Lmao when did I say Sakura strategically attached Shin? Or even implied that? Let me "rephrase" myself, when ever has Sakura charged in on a direct imminent threat to her comrades she does so either successfully took the danger down or didn't get herself almost killed doing it. Unlike Hinata who nearly got herself killed in both indential instances,.

Again, acting like you're being rational when everyone Sakura has fought were weaker than anyone Hinata faced or the opponent was distracted by others. Hinata faced Pain and Momoshiki, failed. Sakura faces Zaku and Madara, gets owned, faces Shin and Kaguya, only lands a hit due to being distracted. Nothing you said hold any merit simply because Sakura would have messed up just as much as Hinata did in either of her scenarios.
Lmao intelligence is just another advantage Sakura has over hinata, to the extent of Sakura out preforming Hinata and her byakugan.

Sakura out reasoned, anayalzed or preformed Hinata in anything subject to intelligence even when her vision was inferior. This is one of many reasons why Hinata isn't in Sakura's league point, blank period.

And yet I’M the one taking things out of context. Sakura simply connected two and two together. Hinata saw Obito teleport his entire body, Shino and Kakashi shared their thoughts, and Sakura connected that with his prior ability to slip through, suggesting that he can teleport his body parts separately. Nothing more. Hinata herself isn't even the type to share her thoughts with others anyways, and we saw that when Sakura suggested it was a genjutsu, yet Hinata told her she already checked and it wasn't. How on earth is this a testament to her intelligence when everyone else, like Shino and Kakashi, also noticed what was going on. Again, Sakura just connected the dots, nothing more. And again, intelligence isn't helping her in this fight.

The only thing Hinata has over Sakura is taijutsu, that's it! Sakura is faster, smarter, stronger ect.. Sakura can literally shatters every bone in Hinata's body by just scrapping her. Not to mention Sakura's summon lol

I don't disagree with Sakura being able to shatter Hinata's bones, but with how slow and predictable her attacks are, she takes the exact same linear pose every times she attacks, they will never land on a Byakugan/Gentle Fist Master. Her taijutsu is worthless EVEN IF she has superior foot/running speed because Hinata's reflexes, slow-mo vision, and faster taijutsu will easily allow her to counter. And that's simply assuming Sakura can run faster than her, which is most certainly not the case given Hinata's larger Chakra pool, more potent Chakra, and already superior reflex and speed feats.
 

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You posted a scan of Hinata getting blitzed by Neji... the same kid Neji she never even surpassed (25 Chunin Exams vs. 21.5 Shippuden) Sakura's also labelled as quicker in the DB, and is clearly even faster by the end of Shippuden/Gaiden.

Sakura would blitz her before she had a chance to stutter out a "n-n-Naruto".

you got a link for that?
 

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the only one hinata beats in K11 is Ino
she gets trashed by every other member of it
Sakura;Chouji;Neji;Sai and Shino violates her with zero diff
The title is pretty accurate...since Sakura fights at close combat and Hinata's Taijutsu is lightyears above Sakura's.

She managed to keep up with Neji for the first half of their Chunin Exams fight:

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Dunno which illiterate would like it but your post is inaccurate as if you hadn't read the manga

Neji clearly stated her taijutsu was so piss poor there that her attacks were ineffective from start.

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Hinata would one-shot anyone of Sakura's Chakra Points and it's an instant death IMO.
Then your opinion is wrong :lol Closing chakra point equals instant death

Neji even closed 64 points of part 1 naruto or multiple points of part 1 hinata
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Again, acting like you're being rational when everyone Sakura has fought were weaker than anyone Hinata faced or the opponent was distracted by others.

The fact that Hinata may have faced stronger opponents doesn't matter because all of the People Sakura has gone up against are still greatly stronger then Hinata and solo her. Just as easily as Nagato did or Momoshiki did, the only difference is that Sakura was good enough to challenge or survive against those opponents she went up against. And yes I agree that Sakura taken out a stronger advisory using stealth (cautious and surreptitious action or movement) which is a shinobi attribute and only gives her speed implication a better basis.

Hinata faced Pain and Momoshiki, failed. Sakura faces Zaku and Madara, gets owned, faces Shin and Kaguya, only lands a hit due to being distracted. Nothing you said hold any merit simply because Sakura would have messed up just as much as Hinata did in either of her scenarios.

Kaguya I'll give you, the theme of kaguya being taken down isn't a worthy feat to use in this argument being that teamwork was the undertone throughout that whole debacle but Shin is s different stroy. Shin's visual power or eyes (MS) on his head reacted to Sasuke's Katon from behind.

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Shin should've seen Sakura coming and reacted in accordance to how his reacted to Sasukes Katon. Again it's called stealth and stealth if a direct reflection of execution and speed, all you can do is falsely deny these facts.

And yet I’M the one taking things out of context. Sakura simply connected two and two together.

Yes she connected them.

Shino and Kakashi shared their thoughts, and Sakura connected that with his prior ability to slip through, suggesting that he can teleport his body parts separately.

Your reconstructing the manga again, here are the chain of events:










Shino and Kakashi did share their thoughts of what happened (true) but shino didn't articulate the word nor referenced the term teleport or even that before Sakura did, she articulated the fact obito teleported. Shino didn't share his thoughts, he asked a question Sakura answered. Kakashi on the othe other hand identified his tangibility but he didn't share his thoughts before Sakura did. She broke down the mechanics behind the jutsu shino offered nothing intellectual..

Nothing more. Hinata herself isn't even the type to share her thoughts with others anyways

Doesn't really matter if she shared what she thought or not because she had nothing to offer except "he vanished" so even if she was the type to share her thoughts she couldn't have shared anything Ursula.


and we saw that when Sakura suggested it was a genjutsu, yet Hinata told her she already checked and it wasn't.

What are you talking about? When did Sakura hypothesize obito's tangibility as a genjutsu?









How on earth is this a testament to her intelligence when everyone else, like Shino and Kakashi, also noticed what was going on. Again, Sakura just connected the dots, nothing more. And again, intelligence isn't helping her in this fight.

Yes Shino (through his bugs) saw obito's chakra disappear (which isn't a intelligent attribute because he (his bugs) inheritly monitor chakra. He couldn't fathom how it happened or identifiy any components behind the jutsu; while Hinata dumbfounded was just left dumbfounded (it vanished). Sakura articulated what whey saw or connected the dots. Kakashi on the other hand was just as adequate in his rational.... how is it an testimony to her intelligence? She out thought the majority of people who saw what she saw even when two of those people had the visual advantage.

Sakura put that sh!t together in seconds after seeing it once.


I don't disagree with Sakura being able to shatter Hinata's bones, but with how slow and predictable her attacks are, she takes the exact same linear pose every times she attacks they will never land on a Byakugan/Gentle Fist Master.

Same linear pose everytime?

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Anyway the only leg up Hinata has is her technique and Sakura is more likely to touch Hinata first and the destruction/debris Sakura's fist causes overwhelms Hinata which will make her taijutsu less attentive,

Her taijutsu is worthless EVEN IF she has superior foot/running speed because Hinata's reflexes, slow-mo vision, and faster taijutsu will easily allow her to counter. And that's simply assuming Sakura can run faster than her, which is most certainly not the case given Hinata's larger Chakra pool, more potent Chakra, and already superior reflex and speed feats.

Sakura has better reflexes and your slo-mo vision (LMAO) isn't gonna make her speed. Sakura has more chakra the Hinata does includin byakugo and that makes her stamina higher but Hubert's is more potent.
Anyway Sakura wins.
 

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the only one hinata beats in K11 is Ino
she gets trashed by every other member of it
Sakura;Chouji;Neji;Sai and Shino violates her with zero diff

Dunno which illiterate would like it but your post is inaccurate as if you hadn't read the manga

Neji clearly stated her taijutsu was so piss poor there that her attacks were ineffective from start.

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Then your opinion is wrong :lol Closing chakra point equals instant death

Neji even closed 64 points of part 1 naruto or multiple points of part 1 hinata


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hinata >>> sakura in close combat...ps neji one-shotted kidomaru with 1 gentle fist poke...same would happen to sakura
 

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hinata >>> sakura in close combat...
No hinata>Sakura in taijutsu

in cqc she gets pulverized by single hit from sakura who has shown better reaction and speed compared her even in base let alone Byakugou

ps neji one-shotted kidomaru with 1 gentle fist poke...same would happen to sakura

Lmao that was offscreen you don't even know how much hits he used.You can go read it
and if you can read the manga Neji has already flooded him with Jyuuken damaging him :lol
 

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No hinata>Sakura in taijutsu

in cqc she gets pulverized by single hit from sakura who has shown better reaction and speed compared her even in base let alone Byakugou

scan comparisons?

Lmao that was offscreen you don't even know how much hits he used.You can go read it
and if you can read the manga Neji has already flooded him with Jyuuken damaging him :lol

no it was not offscreen...LMAOOOO it was a one-poke one shot
 
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scan comparisons?
I just posted the speed stats and hinata has zero reflex feat throughout the manga
no it was not offscreen...LMAOOOO it was a one-poke one shot

Then go and read the manga.The strike weren't shown :lol [ ]
 
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The fact that Hinata may have faced stronger opponents doesn't matter because all of the People Sakura has gone up against are still greatly stronger then Hinata and solo her. Just as easily as Nagato did or Momoshiki did, the only difference is that Sakura was good enough to challenge or survive against those opponents she went up against. And yes I agree that Sakura taken out a stronger advisory using stealth (cautious and surreptitious action or movement) which is a shinobi attribute and only gives her speed implication a better basis.

I don't care about any of this. The simple fact is that Sakura taking on Madara/Shin/Kaguya/Sasori holds no basis when she is far weaker than all of them and would lose in 1 v 1, which is what we are talking about here.

Kaguya I'll give you, the theme of kaguya being taken down isn't a worthy feat to use in this argument being that teamwork was the undertone throughout that whole debacle but Shin is s different stroy. Shin's visual power or eyes (MS) on his head reacted to Sasuke's Katon from behind.

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Shin should've seen Sakura coming and reacted in accordance to how his reacted to Sasukes Katon. Again it's called stealth and stealth if a direct reflection of execution and speed, all you can do is falsely deny these facts.

Never denies Sakura was good in her sneak attack against Shin. But a sneak attack wouldn't work on a 1 v 1 and especially not on a Byakugan user.

Sakura put that sh!t together in seconds after seeing it once.
Agree, but all this is ultimately irrelevant in the end when it comes to her fighting Hinata.
Same linear pose everytime?

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If you actually look at her punches, yes, they are very much linear like most of her other punches seen in the manga. Even her punch to Shin was in the exact same pose as all the other punches she'd done in the series prior. Its definitely more dynamic than most other moments of her fighting, and Sakura's agility is definitely there, but not only is Hinata’s taijutsu still faster (64 Palms), but its not the same as what Hinata displayed, actually fighting puppets made for combat, same ones who fought off Naruto and Hiashi, wherein she also displayed great skill, redirecting momentum, back flipping off opponents, incorporating kicks into the Gentle Fist style, which doesn’t use kicks, dodging an attack from behind without even using Byakugan, If Hinata can avoid a point-blank assault from behind without using the Byakugan’s 360 vision and Slow-mo vision, she’s not falling prey to a linear, predictable punch from Sakura, and I will present even more proof to back that up.

Anyway the only leg up Hinata has is her technique and Sakura is more likely to touch Hinata first
The one to land a first hit in CQC would likely be Hinata. Her lion fists would grant her longer range, allowing her to fight from a safer distance and to reach Sakura before Sakura can punch her. Hinata also has faster striking speed. This is shown in 64 Palms. 64 Palms is a technique where the user has to strike needle-tip tiny points 64 times in a row, all while taking into consideration the recoil of their attacks as they hit and moving in a fast and speedy manner in order to keep the, and aI quote, "high speed combo" going. Keep in mind that the Chakra points on the fingers and those on the opponents body must be aligned in order to shut them down, meaning if the opponent moves even 1 mm to the left or right, Hinata would have to compensate. In other words, Hinata's strikes are SO fast her opponent can't move even 1 mm to the left or right before her hit lands. 1 mm. Well, this is coming from a girl who can strike 32 small targets within the blink of an eye. So yeah, Hinata has faster striking speed, better eyes to keep track of enemy attacks, and better reflexes, so I think she'd land the first hit.

and the destruction/debris Sakura's fist causes overwhelms Hinata which will make her taijutsu less attentive

Statement based on nothing. No shinobi has shown to struggle in fighting with the ground beneath them shattered.
Sakura has better reflexes

No she doesn't.

Not only is this evident by her Byakugan, her Gentle Fist, and expertise in the 64 Palms as previously pointed out, but we saw a blatant example of this in Chapter 614 when Hinata was able to react to and protect Naruto from a wooden spike while Sakura failed to dodge it and was instead saved by Kakashi. And keep in mind Hinata did this with her Byakugan inactivated, meaning no enhanced vision to track high speed movement.

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Another example soon followed.

We see Hinata watch when Obito becomes the Ten Tails Jinchuriki. The transformation is seen twice, one normally, and one through Hinata’s eyes, and more panels are used in Hinata's case.This indicates that Hinata too was using the Byakugan’s ability to keep track of high-speed movement, allowing her to see the Juubi being sealed away in detail. Moreover, Hinata notes that there were at least two ways she was able to tell the Juubi was absorbed by Obito, as she says “Judging by the Chakra as well”, meaning there would have been another method to how she knew the Juubi was sealed, that being that she simply saw it happen.

Obviously Hinata can’t keep track of all speedy movements, but Hinata’s Byakugan is stated to not be inferior to Neji’s in any way at all (Databook), which means her eyes can at least keep up with 4-5 Gate Lee levels of speed. It might even be superior when considering the range of Hinata’s is 20Km while Neji’s was 800m. And we also see that she was able to keep track of Obito absorbing the Juubi, which Sakura FAILED to do. And beforeyou say it was because they were far away, this is not the case, as we see them VERY close the Wood Gates Hashirama was using to hold in the Juubi. Not to mention the entire alliance was in the 4 Sun Seal with the Juubi. From this, it’s evident that Hinata’s slow-mo vision is vastly superior in keeping track of movement than Sakura’s own eyes, as Hinata saw the near-instant sealing of the Juubi in detail while Sakura failed to do so, meaning Hinata would have an easier time keeping track of Sakura’s taijutsu and speed. Even Hiashi saw it with his Byakugan just like Hinata, while everyone else was left clueless due to how fast it happened.

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and your slo-mo vision (LMAO) isn't gonna make her speed.

Never said it makes her faster, just that it is a garuntee that she isn't getting blitzed. Even if Sakura has faster foot speed, she isn't beating Hinata, because Hinata will see it coming and her faster arm speed will counter.

Sakura has more chakra the Hinata does includin byakugo and that makes her stamina higher but Hubert's is more potent.

No, Sakura does not have access to all of the YS Chakra. This was shown twice, once when Naruto died and again in The Last. Her reserves did not alter in the least. Yes, she can tap into it to replenish her reserves, but not INCREASE it beyond what it initally was.

Yet, later, we still see her use a massive amount of Chakra to help save Sasuke. This means that, despite her Chakra levels being greater than a Rikudo Naruto Shadow Clone’s levels, Sakura does not have access to ALL of the Chakra in her seal whenever she pleases, akin to how Naruto does not have access to all the Chakra of the Nine Tails in Part 1, though she can still transfer it to others, likely because, like Madara with Kaguya, her body is unable to handle so much Chakra actually being in her system and instead she must rely on extracting small amounts from the seal, amounts that she herself can actually handle.

My point with the Yin Seal is that even if Sakura’s reserves surpass even Kaguya’s and Madara’s combined, it means nothing when her body can’t handle all that Chakra, as if it could, she’d be using it. Yet we see in the Last that it takes her three whole days to replenish Naruto, after which she is burned out, while it takes Hinata no more than a second to replenish Naruto, after which she doesn’t show a shred of fatigue. Not to mention Hinata's Chakra is far more potent than even Bijuu Chakra.

Yin Seal does not in anyway affect the speed of the user. Tsunade, with her enormous reserves in her seal, was still being easily reacted to by Kabuto, who was able to react to her, the same guy even kid Naruto was fighting. So what? One of the Sannin had such horrible speed and reflexes that even with the seal she didn’t surpass Kabuto/Naruto?
 
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I just posted the speed stats and hinata has zero reflex feat throughout the manga


Then go and read the manga.The strike weren't shown :lol [ ]

so no scans then...and that strike was a one-shot
 

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you stole my line

learn to comprehend.There is no panel of neji striking kidomaru thus you cannot say its oneshot :lol when there is no panel of him doing so in scan i provided

i also provided DB stats of both sakura and hinata [ ]

there is zero solid feats of reaction from hinata[inb4 a fictional story] while sakura has multiples including dodging kaguya's chakra arm

you are the one who actually made this thread based on nothing.The scan you used in first post was already proven wrong along with your claims :lol
 
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