Confirmed : Sarada is not the Sakura of this gen

JStar King

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 13, 2014
Messages
8,958
Reaction score
790
Sakura may have had little self respect for herself, but her character is initially really realistic, when you think about it. There are women out here in this world in abusive relationships, yet still love their abusers. Why? There are a plethora of explanations why, which I won't go into as it'd simply turn this thread off topic. However, Sakura's case is no different in that aspect. The impressive thing about Sakura however, is that she matured past her "Sasuke is my life" phase, this was showcased in:

A: Her trying to poison Sasuke with the kunai.
B: During the war arc where she stood beside Naruto, and Sasuke as an equal (of course not power wise equal), and took out all of those Jubi clones.

Treated Naruto like crap? Of course in Pt.1 she did. She had still not matured, but in Pt.2 you can see many times she'd stuck up for Naruto, and cared for him immensely as if he were a little brother. Attempting to save him in the war arc is treating him like trash? Punching Sai when he made fun of Sasuke, when in turn was a diss to Naruto for praising Sasuke is trash behavior? I think not.

Sakura was ungrateful how? I don't understand that lol at all.

People claim Sakura is the worst character, because she was a "fodder" in Pt.1, which I can agree with she was inherently weak in the beginning, but in Pt.2 her character developement skyrocketed, hell this was when I started to like Sakura when she did this:

You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images

This whole chapter really just showcases how badass, and savage Sakura had to be despite knowing how useless she was compared to most of the K11 Genin.



I mean look at this, and tell me Sakura doesn't look like a savage?

You must be registered for see images

I mean, don't get me wrong. I give her credit when it's due, but she's still one of the worst female characters bar none, because of how she treated Naruto, Ino, and the others while worshipping Sasuke like a bi*ch in heat.

It has nothing to do with her power or "badass" moments.

:tea:
 

Byakuren

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Oct 13, 2016
Messages
1,084
Reaction score
71
I mean, don't get me wrong. I give her credit when it's due, but she's still one of the worst female characters bar none, because of how she treated Naruto, Ino, and the others while worshipping Sasuke like a bi*ch in heat.

It has nothing to do with her power or "badass" moments.

:tea:

But that makes her character even more realistic, which makes one relate to a character more. In life people ignore others/treat poorly when crushing/in love, this is a common action. Even so, Sakura redeemed herself, she's matured significantly, and I just don't understand how you can still call her the worst female character in the manga, despite of this clear character development, and atonement.

But, alas we are all subjected to our opinions.
 

JStar King

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 13, 2014
Messages
8,958
Reaction score
790
Yet, you hate on her and wank him. He literally did the things you described, and worse. Is sexism an alright thing in the autistic retard bubble you live in? Just wondering.

Sasuke is still one of my fav because he's a savage and have no fu*ks to give. I understood where Sasuke was coming from. He was in pain because of the loss of his family and wanted revenge.

Konoha was holding him back, so he had to evolve and move on.

On the other hand, Sakura was always presented as selfish. She made fun of Naruto, because he was an orphan. She almost got him killed and acted selfishly towards his generosity.

Then you have the fact that Ino was willing to give up her crush on Sasuke for their friendship. But did Sakura care? Nope.

Sakura has no reason to love him and yet, all she does is cry and open her legs for him. She has no self-respect whatsoever. Sasuke tried to kill her three times and treated her like a nuisance for the majority of the series.

And yet, people still ship her with him. As a Sakura fan, you should be pissed off, because the pairing disrespects Sakura and is completely Anti-Sasuke, because it's forced and neglects his feelings from his point of view.

Kishi couldn't give Sakura a good reason to love him. She's obsessed over Sasuke's good looks.
Tbh, Sasuke deserves to die alone.

:tea:
 
Last edited:

Made in Heaven

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
May 30, 2013
Messages
31,444
Reaction score
2,201
But that makes her character even more realistic, which makes one relate to a character more. In life people ignore others/treat poorly when crushing/in love, this is a common action. Even so, Sakura redeemed herself, she's matured significantly, and I just don't understand how you can still call her the worst female character in the manga, despite of this clear character development, and atonement.

But, alas we are all subjected to our opinions.

Sakura's development always falls flat. Even when she supposedly made up with Ino in the exams, over 3 years later, she's still being spiteful to Ino and throws a tantrum like a child when Sai calls her beautiful. Even when she supposedly matured, still worries about Sasuke not caring for her safety despite the guy saying he wants the Kages (Ei Tsunde) dead. Even when she has the whole "look at my back" moments, she still needs saving. Even when she realizes she's a burden on the battlefield, she's still crying and not training. Not to mention her personality is just downright awful and she let thousands of people die when she could have saved them.
 

Byakuren

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Oct 13, 2016
Messages
1,084
Reaction score
71
Itachi solos

Always, and forever. Sasuke wouldn't be where he was at without Itachi's power. Konoha would've been destroyed by the Akatsuki if not for Itachi's presence. Orochimaru would've taken over Sasuke's body if not for Itachi sealing Orochimaru. etc. etc. What hasn't Itachi done to save the manga? Sheesh, Itachi carried the manga on his back, even with his sickness.
 

JStar King

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 13, 2014
Messages
8,958
Reaction score
790
But that makes her character even more realistic, which makes one relate to a character more. In life people ignore others/treat poorly when crushing/in love, this is a common action. Even so, Sakura redeemed herself, she's matured significantly, and I just don't understand how you can still call her the worst female character in the manga, despite of this clear character development, and atonement.

But, alas we are all subjected to our opinions.

Because she is. Her selfish acts and personality is what makes her the worst. Just because they are "realistic", doesn't make it any better.

:kk:
 

Vulpini

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 23, 2015
Messages
9,742
Reaction score
946
Sasuke is still one of my fav because he's a savage and have no fu*ks to give. I understood where Sasuke was coming from. He was in pain because of the loss of his family and wanted revenge.

Konoha was holding him back, so he had to evolve and move on.

On the other hand, Sakura was always presented as selfish. She made fun of Naruto, because he was an orphan. She almost got him killed and acted selfishly.

Then you have the fact that Ino was willing to give up her crush on Sasuke for their friendship. But did Sakura care? Nope.

Sakura has no reason to love him and yet, all she does is cry and open her legs for him. She has no self-respect whatsoever. Sasuke tried to kill her three times and treated her like a nuisance for the majority of the series.

And yet, people still ship her with him. As a Sakura fan, you should be pissed off, because the pairing disrespects Sakura and is completely Anti-Sasuke, because it's forced and neglects his feelings from his point of view.

Kishi couldn't give Sakura a good reason to love him. She's obsessed over Sasuke's good looks.
Tbh, Sasuke deserves to die alone.

:tea:

All I see are made up excuses to wank your fav while hate on another character. Good try, though.
 

SenseiSama

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Apr 17, 2015
Messages
16,168
Reaction score
926
People act like being the best Medical ninja in the current era, coupled by monstrous strength, and a seal that can break Genjutsu (her Byakugou), is bad.

The healing feats of an Ashura incarnate coupled with chakra of an Indra incarnate... only a hater would say it's a bad thing
 

Byakuren

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Oct 13, 2016
Messages
1,084
Reaction score
71
Sakura's development always falls flat. Even when she supposedly made up with Ino in the exams, over 3 years later, she's still being spiteful to Ino and throws a tantrum like a child when Sai calls her beautiful. Even when she supposedly matured, still worries about Sasuke not caring for her safety despite the guy saying he wants the Kages (Ei Tsunde) dead. Even when she has the whole "look at my back" moments, she still needs saving. Even when she realizes she's a burden on the battlefield, she's still crying and not training. Not to mention her personality is just downright awful and she let thousands of people die when she could have saved them.

Those are called emotions. What, would you like Sakura to be an emotionless character who simply was indifferent to everything around her? Her emotions are what made her likeable in my opinion, her inability to filter herself, her inability to hide her true feelings. If anything Sakura should be well liked just based on the fact she isn't fake. Yes, she needed saving because the odds were stacked against her, coupled with the fact as I stated she was the most useless Genin of the K11 at the time, but that was inevitable, it still showcased her maturity, and overall understanding in regards to her position on the team, and standpoint in the overall rankings throughout the K11.

When did she let thousands of people die? I'm ignorant to that reference, can you link me?
 
Last edited:

TheEvilOne

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jan 31, 2013
Messages
14,251
Reaction score
689
I mean, don't get me wrong. I give her credit when it's due, but she's still one of the worst female characters bar none, because of how she treated Naruto, Ino, and the others while worshipping Sasuke like a bi*ch in heat.

It has nothing to do with her power or "badass" moments.

:tea:

How she treated Ino? Wtf? Ino was at least as bad Sakura if not worse in part1. And about the Naruto part, well let's be realistic, Naruto was idiotic and annoying in part one, I can fully understand why Sakura was SOMETIMES rude to him. This however doesn't change the fact that she CARED for Naruto after she got to know him. She was always polite to everyone else.
 

Byakuren

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Oct 13, 2016
Messages
1,084
Reaction score
71
The healing feats of an Ashura incarnate coupled with chakra of an Indra incarnate... only a hater would say it's a bad thing

Ashura incarnates don't have healing feats, merely that was a think of Hashirama, Tsunade, and then which was passed on to Sakura through Tsunade's tutelage. Also, I wouldn't go as far as to say she has powerful chakra on par with an Indra incarnate, because that blatantly isn't true, or supported. She has large chakra reserves from what we can infer, but not powerful chakra to claim Indra worthy.

Definitely not a bad thing, Sakura is a superb ninja.
 

Made in Heaven

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
May 30, 2013
Messages
31,444
Reaction score
2,201
Those are called emotions. What, would you like Sakura to be an emotionless character who simply was indifferent to everything around her? Her emotions are what made her likeable in my opinion, her inability to filter herself, her inability to hide her true feelings. If anything Sakura should be well liked just based on the fact she isn't fake. Yes, she needed saving because the odds were stacked against her, coupled with the fact as I stated she was the most useless Genin of the K11 at the time.

When did she let thousands of people die? I'm ignorant to that reference, can you link me?

She can have her emotions, they just shouldn't be so annoying to read and should be believable. Like Naruto, her obsession with Sasuke is unacceptable and makes no sense, so seeing her cry over and over again over someone she barely knows, who abandoned her, and later tried to kill her is not something that make her likable to me, again, like with Naruto, it's awful writing. And its not even her simply displaying her emotions, her personality as a whole is unlikable. She's annoying, shallow, simple minded, manipulative, and weak-willed, things she never moves beyond. Even Kishimoto said he created her to be someone the writers wouldn't like/find annoying.

The simple fact that she was messing around most of the time instead of concentrating on forming the Yin Seal.
 

lndra

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jun 1, 2014
Messages
31,928
Reaction score
2,237
Nah, just in terms of his role in the plot





He's crushing over the MC like Sakura, defends Boruto like Sakura, even got choked like Sakura :lol
Denki doesnt have a crush LOL
 

Byakuren

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Oct 13, 2016
Messages
1,084
Reaction score
71
She can have her emotions, they just shouldn't be so annoying to read and should be believable. Like Naruto, her obsession with Sasuke is unacceptable and makes no sense, so seeing her cry over and over again over someone she barely knows, who abandoned her, and later tried to kill her is not something that make her likable to me, again, like with Naruto, it's awful writing. And its not even her simply displaying her emotions, her personality as a whole is unlikable. She's annoying, shallow, simple minded, manipulative, and weak-willed, things she never moves beyond. Even Kishimoto said he created her to be someone the writers wouldn't like/find annoying.

The simple fact that she was messing around most of the time instead of concentrating on forming the Yin Seal.

Emotions being annoying to read is your opinion, while others could treasure her dialogue, you're viewing Sakura through narrow subjectivity, widen your horizon a bit. Her obsession for Sasuke does make sense, as I'd pointed out prior to this, that just like in abusive relationships the women stay for a plethora of reasons, her chasing after Sasuke is one of the most realistic aspects in the manga: Love. Love makes you do crazy things, even despite the blatant abuse.

Emotions such as annoying, shallow, simpleminded etc. are all subjective to the readers own emotions/thoughts. You could say annoying, while someone else could say enlightening. You could say shallow, while someone else could say profound. Literally, everything you're saying is subjective to each individual.

If I remember correctly, her Yin Seal had just finished forming at that exact point in time.
 

Made in Heaven

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
May 30, 2013
Messages
31,444
Reaction score
2,201
How she treated Ino? Wtf? Ino was at least as bad Sakura if not worse in part1. And about the Naruto part, well let's be realistic, Naruto was idiotic and annoying in part one, I can fully understand why Sakura was SOMETIMES rude to him. This however doesn't change the fact that she CARED for Naruto after she got to know him. She was always polite to everyone else.

Ino wasn't the one who broke the friendship over a crush. Not to mention Sakura breaking their bond is even worse than if Ino did it since it was Ino that helped Sakura, not the other way around. Not to mention she's still petty to Ino in Part 2.

Sakura's treatment of Naruto never ended though, even in Part 2, she's still abusive to him. And its amazing how you imply being annoying justifies getting hit and mocked.

No she wasn't. There's also Ino, Kiba, Lee, Sai, and, of course, who could forget Salad.
 

Melanin

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Apr 10, 2014
Messages
18,927
Reaction score
1,266
Sakura's development always falls flat. Even when she supposedly made up with Ino in the exams, over 3 years later, she's still being spiteful to Ino and throws a tantrum like a child when Sai calls her beautiful.

It was simple comic relief, Ino & Sakura were rivals on different levels and beauty was one of them. When Sai called Ino beautiful Sakura (believing she was more beautiful then Ino) it simply hit a superficial nerve of a 16 y/o. Sakura didn't declare war, chop Ino's hair off or anything deprived.

Your I've analyzing as usual....

Even when she supposedly matured, still worries about Sasuke not caring for her safety despite the guy saying he wants the Kages (Ei Tsunde) dead.

Sakura wanted Sasuke to "come back from history path" with so things would go back to the way they were and he could let go of his bad intentions. She didn't dismiss what Sasuke planned to do (which included killing the present kages) she implied that if he "came back to her" he wouldn't have to do such a thing because thing would've went back to the way they were (which is superficial and annoying).

Even when she has the whole "look at my back" moments, she still needs saving.

For the hundredth time, it's called team work.

Making an incision in Naruto's chest using what little chakra she had left to assist her, as she manually pumped his heart and performed.

You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images

Transfering Byakugou chakra to fuel Obito's kamui, which allowed them too breach each one of Kaguya's dimension which lead to them finding a stranded Sasuke.

You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images




Even when she realizes she's a burden on the battlefield, she's still crying and not training. Not to mention her personality is just downright awful and she let thousands of people die when she could have saved them.

I think gaiden solos this, she was the only competent team 7 member initially and she definitely stepped up to the plate when kaguya was reviled.
 
Top