can Air Wall Palm destroy a V3 Susanoo ?

[Hakke]

her stomach

neji didn't target her heart till here [

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].Gai specifically called the strike masterstroke since it targetted her heart

Oh my bad , in the last panel a bunch of Organs were shown, not just the stomach, I didn't pay enough attention at the panel so I thought it was the heart, Lol my bad

 

[Hakke]

Ur correct Blaze , but the Chakra was sent through multiple pathways and the heart was literally right there , tho it wasn't a the target nor did it get the brunt of the damage. It was only in the path which means that it likely also sustained some kind of damage. She received the brunt of the damage at her Liver/Kidney/Stomach area while also getting her lungs and heart damaged since the Chakra sent would naturally flow through that area.

One thing I want to ask, do you think that the compressed air of the air palm carry chakra ?

The DB stated that it thrust through the enemy's vital spot with the aspects of the gentle fist, and this what I found stated in Narutopedia :

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"This technique is a variation of the Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm where either two Gentle Fist users,[2] or a single person using both hands,[3] send a powerful wave of chakra from either palm simultaneously with great force towards an opponent"

So.. I am not sure but I don't think that it is just air :dunno:

 

[Icelerate]

lets take a look at V3 Susanoo

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now lets take a look at Air Wall Palm

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now.. tell me, just how the hell can Susanoo survive that ? :|

That is some convincing proof that air wall palm destroys V3 susanoo.

 

[Hakke]

That is some convincing proof that air wall palm destroys V3 susanoo.

My OP is shit, I admit that was really dumb from me, however read the rest of thread and you would find evidences rather than cherry picking to mock me

BTW Juubi's Hand in it's weaker form had easily rebounded a tailed beast bomb with a flick from it's finger[

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Yet the AWP blown it away with a great force and you can see yourself the impact

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Did V3 Susanoo blocked something more powerful than that ?

 

[Izanamı.]

There is no pr00f that v3 Susano'o can tank P1 Hinata's air palm, let alone Hiashi's monstrous wall god palm who not even Sasuke's Bijuu PS can tank. NB continues to amaze me.

 

[BLAZE]

Ur correct Blaze , but the Chakra was sent through multiple pathways and the heart was literally right there , tho it wasn't a the target nor did it get the brunt of the damage. It was only in the path which means that it likely also sustained some kind of damage. She received the brunt of the damage at her Liver/Kidney/Stomach area while also getting her lungs and heart damaged since the Chakra sent would naturally flow through that area.

well yeah but seeing neji's reaction [

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] after she stood from his masterstroke the brunt of damage on heart won't be that much.
Taking in account neither of them was an attempted killshot hinata getting up from first hit wasn't that much of feat while second time yeah it was.

 

[Mellanoma]

There is no pr00f that v3 Susano'o can tank P1 Hinata's air palm, let alone Hiashi's monstrous wall god palm who not even Sasuke's Bijuu PS can tank. NB continues to amaze me.

Yes there is

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Kisame took a direct hit.. 0 damage done and he didnt even have his sword lol

Much like this hyuga wank all air palm is is hot air lol.

Except for KAguya who fires senjutsu,inyoudon hot air

 

[Icelerate]

My OP is shit, I admit that was really dumb from me, however read the rest of thread and you would find evidences rather than cherry picking to mock me

Good you've admit it.

BTW Juubi's Hand in it's weaker form had easily rebounded a tailed beast bomb with a flick from it's finger[

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Yet the AWP blown it away with a great force and you can see yourself the impact

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Did V3 Susanoo blocked something more powerful than that ?

Can't Naruto manipulate TBBs with his chakra arm? That doesn't mean his chakra arm can destroy susanoo. Though I do believe it can destroy ribcage susanoo. Remember when a bijuu with a huge horn charged at Killer Bee yet didn't pierce that deeply despite sending it flying hundreds of meters?

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

haha both madara and sasuke can solo the entire hyuga clan.

 

[Hakke]

Good you've admit it.

Can't Naruto manipulate TBBs with his chakra arm? That doesn't mean his chakra arm can destroy susanoo. Though I do believe it can destroy ribcage susanoo. Remember when a bijuu with a huge horn charged at Killer Bee yet didn't pierce that deeply despite sending it flying hundreds of meters?

that's because the hachibi was durable. I get your point. but we all know that it needs a great force to push something, right ? and a great force can also destroy if it was applied on something less durable, right ? and V3 Susanoo is far less durable than a Juubi's hand (which rebounded a TBB with a flick ). and it was shown that a Susanoo can be destroyed with enough force.

and my point was that the AWP accomplished something that a tailed beast bomb could not. that it had a far greater force to be able to push that Bijuu sized object meters away. and you can see yourself the impact. I will repeat myself again did v3 Susnoo blocked something more powerful than that ?

there is also the fact that Jyuken can destroy any chakra based substance, Susanoo is a chakra based substance. Lol

 

[Ansatsuken]

It will not destroy it but just pushing it really far. Susanoo is very durable.

You need God Vacumm punch to destroy it

 

[HyuugaHeir]

And Bijuus have have actual body? Or is it chakra manifested into body no diffent then rock manifested from earth release, which lasts there unlike say fire release.



Peace

I thought of coming back to this, I stumbled upon a panel about the Rikudou creating bijuus with the yin power that created form out of nothing and his yang power that breathed life into those forms.
/bijuus by rikudou

I just felt the need to tell you

 

[Unorthodox]

Hell to da nawl

 

[neosmith500]

One thing I want to ask, do you think that the compressed air of the air palm carry chakra ?

The DB stated that it thrust through the enemy's vital spot with the aspects of the gentle fist, and this what I found stated in Narutopedia :

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"This technique is a variation of the Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm where either two Gentle Fist users,[2] or a single person using both hands,[3] send a powerful wave of chakra from either palm simultaneously with great force towards an opponent"

So.. I am not sure but I don't think that it is just air :dunno:

No the compressed Air doesn't carry Chakra at all , it only uses it to compress the Air.

-Narutopedia is irrelevant and clearly wrong as this was never said in the Databooks. BUT ,, when u look at the DB notes about Kaguya's 80 Gods Vacuum Palm , it clerly says she loads Chakra the launches it , it then goes on to say that the Hyuga uses a similar Vacuuum technique which implies that the Hyuga also loads Chakra and sends it flying , only with a wide gulf in power compared to Kaguya.

-First i dont even see how Kaguya's tech is a Vacuum tech so to be honest im not even sure about Air palm containing Chakra when launched , or if Kishi retconned this with Kaguya's tech sending Chakra.

 

[Hakke]

No the compressed Air doesn't carry Chakra at all , it only uses it to compress the Air.

-Narutopedia is irrelevant and clearly wrong as this was never said in the Databooks. BUT ,, when u look at the DB notes about Kaguya's 80 Gods Vacuum Palm , it clerly says she loads Chakra the launches it , it then goes on to say that the Hyuga uses a similar Vacuuum technique which implies that the Hyuga also loads Chakra and sends it flying , only with a wide gulf in power compared to Kaguya.

-First i dont even see how Kaguya's tech is a Vacuum tech so to be honest im not even sure about Air palm containing Chakra when launched , or if Kishi retconned this with Kaguya's tech sending Chakra.

nb4 I asked this guy about the aspects of the gentle fist

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No. The aspect of Gentle Fist, meaning the chakra expulsion, not the internal physicality. This is reinforced by the explicit need of detailing both words: compressed, and shell. Along with the fact if such was true, Kisame wouldn't have tanked such.

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and what he stated really makes sense, it could be that the air palm sends chakra within the blown air, however it does not cause internal damage like gentle fist, where the user need to make a physical contact with the enemy and inject Chakra through the Chakra pathway system to damage the internal organs, I don't think that the air palm does that. but you can say that it sends chakra to increase the lethality of the attack, that would also explain how it is similar to Kaguya's Vacuum Palm, so.... IDK, what do you think ?

 

[neosmith500]

nb4 I asked this guy about the aspects of the gentle fist


and what he stated really makes sense, it could be that the air palm sends chakra within the blown air, however it does not cause internal damage like gentle fist, where the user need to make a physical contact with the enemy and inject Chakra through the Chakra pathway system to damage the internal organs, I don't think that the air palm does that. but you can say that it sends chakra to increase the lethality of the attack, that would also explain how it is similar to Kaguya's Vacuum Palm, so.... IDK, what do you think ?

No , wat he said doesn't make sense because the "Aspects of Gentle fist" is clearly describing how the attack thrusts through the enemy.

DB said this. "An extremely fast Strike is unleashed " , Meaning that the attack has already been launched
, to which it is then noted that with Aspects of Gentle Fist the compressed shell that has already been unleashed , thrusts through the enemies Vital.

-Air Palm doesn't carry Chakra inside it because if it did then the shockwave force of the blast would send that same Chakra into the enemy with more force that any physical application of Gentle fist.

 

[Hakke]

No , wat he said doesn't make sense because the "Aspects of Gentle fist" is clearly describing how the attack thrusts through the enemy.

DB said this. "An extremely fast Strike is unleashed " , Meaning that the attack has already been launched
, to which it is then noted that with Aspects of Gentle Fist the compressed shell that has already been unleashed , thrusts through the enemies Vital.

-Air Palm doesn't carry Chakra inside it because if it did then the shockwave force of the blast would send that same Chakra into the enemy with more force that any physical application of Gentle fist.

okay.. what do you think that they meant but "with the aspects of the Gentle Fist thrust through" ?

the most basic aspect of the gentle fist is to do internal damage. and to do internal damage, it needs chakra. but the issue here that it didn't cause any serious damage to Kisame, the only thing that it did (as confirmed in the DB), was that it struck his vital spot, which is not really a big deal.

could it be that Kishi retconed the ability of the jutsu or something ? since the first time the jutsu was shown was in ch 256 and the 3rd DB came out after ch 402.

anyway, I pretty much agree until we get a clear view for this jutsu in the Boruto Manga. but can you tell me what did they meant with " with aspects of the gentle fist" ?

 

[Byakuren]

haha both madara and sasuke can solo the entire hyuga clan.

Of course.

 

[sayian]

lol air palm is weak af even in the games.

 

[neosmith500]

okay.. what do you think that they meant but "with the aspects of the Gentle Fist thrust through" ?

the most basic aspect of the gentle fist is to do internal damage. and to do internal damage, it needs chakra. but the issue here that it didn't cause any serious damage to Kisame, the only thing that it did (as confirmed in the DB), was that it struck his vital spot, which is not really a big deal.

could it be that Kishi retconed the ability of the jutsu or something ? since the first time the jutsu was shown was in ch 256 and the 3rd DB came out after ch 402.

anyway, I pretty much agree until we get a clear view for this jutsu in the Boruto Manga. but can you tell me what did they meant with " with aspects of the gentle fist" ?

Aspects of Gentle Fist describes how the "Unleashed" vacuum shell bypasses the skin. Only instead of Chakra its compressed Air.