Who can Temari beat in Akatsuki?

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Awesome information being thrown out guys. Never thought id see the day filler information would be used in a debate but I like that people actually do follow the manga in terms of the non popular characters.

Boy i'm tired of this argument haha

Canon/Non-Canon is a strange invention made by fandom culture to invalidate good media for little to no reason. I'm not the strange one for using anime fights that contradict nothing in the main manga. Hell, the main manga contradicts itself sometimes and was never the product of a sole 'author/god' figure.

 

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I'm not the strange one for using anime fights that contradict nothing in the main manga.

temari violates konohamaru harder than you violate logic :lol

 

[Mellanoma]

Boy i'm tired of this argument haha

Canon/Non-Canon is a strange invention made by fandom culture to invalidate good media for little to no reason. I'm not the strange one for using anime fights that contradict nothing in the main manga. Hell, the main manga contradicts itself sometimes and was never the product of a sole 'author/god' figure.

I saw Sai v Temari and that fight was in sai's favor. They were like 5ft from one another and he had a steroid kunai. Temari is a long range specialist so up close may not be her strong point but that fight was in Sai's favor

Anyways as for anime feats:

I was once skeptical about anime feats however after seeing kiba do this:

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I knew i couldn't take the anime serious any more

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I saw Sai v Temari and that fight was in sai's favor. They were like 5ft from one another and he had a steroid kunai. Temari is a long range specialist so up close may not be her strong point but that fight was in Sai's favor

Anyways as for anime feats:

I was once skeptical about anime feats however after seeing kiba do this:

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I knew i couldn't take the anime serious any more

Very different example to the one I used, with 2 explanations:

A.) IN-UNIVERSE EXPLANATION: Sakon/Ukon's Rashomon gate is naturally not as powerful as Orochimaru's and by summoning more than his power allows, their strength is distributed between all three, making them weaker for a hugely improved War Arc Kiba, a nin with great ninjutsu and speed in the databook.

B.) CANON INVALIDATION EXPLANATION: Artistic license by the animation team, something that Kishimoto accepts as by NB's author-centric logic, he put his name to Boruto: The Movie and other works. The exaggerations in those fight scenes are accepted and even argued over when really that was an animation team making those decisions, not Kishimoto. He doesn't care as much as NB does, which is why he wants other writers making Naruto books and manga and why he even makes anime-only characters canon on occasion. (Raiga for example)

Canon/Non-canon shouldn't apply so religiously to a series like Naruto which has always been a multi-man project with countless editors, inspirations and audience influence.

The only difference between me finding reasoning behind that feat and people on here discussing manga feats is that anime-exclusive battles aren't even given a look-in by NB purists. It's an odd invention. Also i'm glad you read the fight and pointed out Sai had the advantage, but so would Hidan in CQC. Hugely.

 

[Mellanoma]

Very different example to the one I used, with 2 explanations:

A.) IN-UNIVERSE EXPLANATION: Sakon/Ukon's Rashomon gate is naturally not as powerful as Orochimaru's and by summoning more than his power allows, their strength is distributed between all three, making them weaker for a hugely improved War Arc Kiba, a nin with great ninjutsu and speed in the databook.

B.) CANON INVALIDATION EXPLANATION: Artistic license by the animation team, something that Kishimoto accepts as by NB's author-centric logic, he put his name to Boruto: The Movie and other works. The exaggerations in those fight scenes are accepted and even argued over when really that was an animation team making those decisions, not Kishimoto. He doesn't care as much as NB does, which is why he wants other writers making Naruto books and manga and why he even makes anime-only characters canon on occasion. (Raiga for example)

Canon/Non-canon shouldn't apply so religiously to a series like Naruto which has always been a multi-man project with countless editors, inspirations and audience influence.

The only difference between me finding reasoning behind that feat and people on here discussing manga feats is that anime-exclusive battles aren't even given a look-in by NB purists. It's an odd invention. Also i'm glad you read the fight and pointed out Sai had the advantage, but so would Hidan in CQC. Hugely.

I understand your point but the issue is if you accept 1 anime filler as feat then you have to accept them all so its easier to just consider them all non-canon.

Back when I first was on this board using Anime feats was always an issue as people would throw out these crazy assumptions which a lot of times was inconsistent with the actual manga.

For example. Abilities

People who use to put Ten-Ten in fights would always throw out her Twin dragon attack which never happened in the manga

So, to keep it simple we consider anime feats non canon however they can be used to summarize an event when compared to manga feats BUT its all just speculation hehe

 

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The moment he realises kiba's fang rotation is taijutsu

Also he canonically failed to destroy the rashomon gate of salon/ukon

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

The moment he realises kiba's fang rotation is taijutsu

Also he canonically failed to destroy the rashomon gate of salon/ukon

The moment he realises it's actually spelled 'Sakon'

Nit-picking doesn't change one bit of my post, stalker xo

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I understand your point but the issue is if you accept 1 anime filler as feat then you have to accept them all so its easier to just consider them all non-canon.

Back when I first was on this board using Anime feats was always an issue as people would throw out these crazy assumptions which a lot of times was inconsistent with the actual manga.

For example. Abilities

People who use to put Ten-Ten in fights would always throw out her Twin dragon attack which never happened in the manga

So, to keep it simple we consider anime feats non canon however they can be used to summarize an event when compared to manga feats BUT its all just speculation hehe

I don't like the idea of other people invalidating media though. If you want to get really strict, then the anime should be included until it directly contradicts the manga.

I understand how people use them and disregard anything outside of the biblical manga on here and I believe they got taught, like me to invalidate it via fandom culture thinking. I don't acknowledge it for the reasons I put above and a couple more that i'm not really sure somebody could disprove with 'scans' and 'feats' unless they wanted to get into a Barthes-style discussion on art ownership and author censorship. Might not be the thread for that though, then we'd be waaay off-topic haha.

 

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The moment he realises it's actually spelled 'Sakon'

Nit-picking doesn't change one bit of my post, stalker xo

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Doesn't clarify why you don't even know single thing about any char and still comes out to spew bs.
Rich considering you rely repeteadly on anime fillers and made up fiction.

Lovely how you completely went offtopic :lol kiba failed to destroy single rashomon gate in canon

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Autocorrect
Doesn't clarify why you don't even know single thing about any char and still comes out to spew bs.
Rich considering you rely repeteadly on anime fillers and made up fiction.

Lovely how you completely went offtopic :lol kiba failed to destroy single rashomon gate in canon

Part 1 Kiba couldn't. Makes absolute sense that against a part 1 villain, War Arc Kiba could destroy them when Sakon/Ukon are splitting their power between the 3 of them.

You're such an angry lil guy who holds grudges, would love to know why you're so hostile to me talking about anime online.

 

[DrProof]

Part 1 Kiba couldn't. Makes absolute sense that against a part 1 villain, War Arc Kiba could destroy them when Sakon/Ukon are splitting their power between the 3 of them.

You're such an angry lil guy who holds grudges, would love to know why you're so hostile to me talking about anime online.

Yeah War-Arc Kiba would shit on the gates.

 

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Part 1 Kiba couldn't. Makes absolute sense that against a part 1 villain, War Arc Kiba could destroy them when Sakon/Ukon are splitting their power between the 3 of them.

with tail chaser yeah he would but thats not tail chaser :lol there is not even a single evidence that his gatsuuga can :lol

You're such an angry lil guy who holds grudges, would love to know why you're so hostile to me talking about anime online.

you sound like the that like to beat around the bush in every discussion :lol Temari's fuuton can cut thats canon you sucking off on fillers aint changing shit
Kiba ain't breaking rashoman without tail chaser and gatsuuga ain't breaking it when it canonically didn't [

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[Booker]

Boy i'm tired of this argument haha

Canon/Non-Canon is a strange invention made by fandom culture to invalidate good media for little to no reason. I'm not the strange one for using anime fights that contradict nothing in the main manga. Hell, the main manga contradicts itself sometimes and was never the product of a sole 'author/god' figure.

Canon exists to allow people discussion on the same relevant topic without bringing contradicting facts. Otherwise, everything is canon, and all of a sudden Part 1 Naruto is capable of creating massive whirlpool Rasengans (like 9 of them lol) with only one hand.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

It's not like Kiba was the main bit of my argument regardless? Even if I knew the inner workings of his moveset, the point I was making was in the second point. Congrats on completely missing the point.

Anyone know how to block stalkers on here? Muuuch appreciated, only have so many hours on this earth lol

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Canon exists to allow people discussion on the same relevant topic without bringing contradicting facts. Otherwise, everything is canon, and all of a sudden Part 1 Naruto is capable of creating massive whirlpool Rasengans (like 9 of them lol) with only one hand.

I understand the need to keep it simple but...why not? PTS Naruto could only do that under the right conditions/context. This is also the same kid who has a Sannin-level contract that is completely canon but conditional. Really not that bizarre.

There's moments of ridiculous 'feats' in the highly stylised Momoshiki fight but because author/god signs off on it it's suddenly better? Roland Barthes wants a word with fandom culture haha

 

[BLAZE]

It's not like Kiba was the main bit of my argument regardless? Even if I knew the inner workings of his moveset, the point I was making was in the second point. Congrats on completely missing the point.

So Hirudora can destroy v3 susanoo i can argue asakujaku will do same lmao
becoz temari was shown struggling against a fodder who SP loves to wank means she will struggle against him in canon :lol
your main argument is using anime fillers which is total BS

Anyone know how to block stalkers on here? Muuuch appreciated, only have so many hours on this earth lol

Go to my homepage>add ignore list>yes :lol

 

[Booker]

I understand the need to keep it simple but...why not? PTS Naruto could only do that under the right conditions/context. This is also the same kid who has a Sannin-level contract that is completely canon but conditional. Really not that bizarre.

There's moments of ridiculous 'feats' in the highly stylised Momoshiki fight but because author/god signs off on it it's suddenly better? Roland Barthes wants a word with fandom culture haha

Because it massively complicates what Part 1 (and even Part 2) Naruto is capable of, it even contradicts it. So now you're claiming Part 1 Naruto is capable of simultaneously creating 9 Rasengans with one-hand (when every other time up until literally the Pein Arc he needed help)? Please. This is the precise reason canon exists. While the established canon does also contradict itself at times, it is still more or less consistent and allowed people to talk about the same relevant topic without pulling from different sources.

I really don't understand why you're even in the Versus board if you can't grasp this concept. Might as well just create your own fan-fiction feats, as long as you claim they're canon they get to be, right? Only that "fandom culture" weighing you down!

 

[awesomeseimei]

If you want to get really strict, then the anime should be included until it directly contradicts the manga.

Er, no. That would be arbitrary and subjective and cause more troubles than necessary. The anime, even if canon, is still an adaptation, and it isn't always faithful to the manga, so it makes sense to stick to source material for the most part when debating.

 

[Icelerate]

Canon exists to allow people discussion on the same relevant topic without bringing contradicting facts. Otherwise, everything is canon, and all of a sudden Part 1 Naruto is capable of creating massive whirlpool Rasengans (like 9 of them lol) with only one hand.

Part one base Naruto defeated a kage level shinobi in the end of part one fillers.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Boy i'm tired of this argument haha

Canon/Non-Canon is a strange invention made by fandom culture to invalidate good media for little to no reason. I'm not the strange one for using anime fights that contradict nothing in the main manga. Hell, the main manga contradicts itself sometimes and was never the product of a sole 'author/god' figure.

no its not. At Least know the definitions and origins of the words you use.

can·on1
ˈkanən/Submit
noun
noun: canon; plural noun: canons; noun: canon of the Mass; plural noun: canon of the Mass
1.
a general law, rule, principle, or criterion by which something is judged.
"the appointment violated the canons of fair play and equal opportunity"
synonyms: principle, rule, law, tenet, precept; More
a church decree or law.
"a set of ecclesiastical canons"
synonyms: law, decree, edict, statute, dictate, decretal
"a set of ecclesiastical canons"
2.
a collection or list of sacred books accepted as genuine.
"the formation of the biblical canon"
the works of a particular author or artist that are recognized as genuine.
"the Shakespeare canon"
synonyms: list of works, works, writings, oeuvre
"the Shakespeare canon"
the list of works considered to be permanently established as being of the highest quality.
"Hopkins was firmly established in the canon of English poetry"
3.
(in the Roman Catholic Church) the part of the Mass containing the words of consecration.
4.
MUSIC
a piece in which the same melody is begun in different parts successively, so that the imitations overlap.
Origin

Old English: from Latin, from Greek kanōn ‘rule,’ reinforced in Middle English by Old French canon .


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