War Arc Neji surpassed MS Sasuke's level

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Actually Neji can just cover himself with a wide space of chakra( )to tank Nagashi , so Nagashi is not a problem here. but I am still not sure if he can win against Sasuke in CQC though.

He has better insight, and one touch is enough to shut down Sasuke's dojutsu and entire body. Second touch to do damage to Sasuke's organs, in addition he's also a genius like Sasuke. No one can challenge Neji in taijutsu except for Gai.
 

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Well i thought he repelled it alone, like i said i wasn't well informed on his feats. Well then he can't push v4 back. It was that simple if you wouldn't ride sasuke for a sec.
And about nagashi, does he beat lee too then in close range? Why you ignored that since neji is said to be his rival.
And sasuke fended off what? XD lol he got his chest blown.
@bold, not that i wank them, but what does that have to do with topic at hand? or is sasuke fanboying getting over your head?
So basically you had no proof of what you are saying? good to know. Lee is irrelevant so not bothering with that

bold. i was referring to what happened before then. read the manga fool

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Parried all his strikes and was only . bee did not land one solid hit, he did that while not . but he get destroyed by neji in close range when his best feats are against mediocre part 1 characters(base naruto, hinata etc). lay off the drugs and hop off his nuts

Forget MS, hebi sasuke beats this overrated clown low/mid dif. if you want to argue that, then go ahead.
 

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First of all dat dislike tho, second of all 11/10 thread neji is my man!
 

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So basically you had no proof of what you are saying? good to know. Lee is irrelevant so not bothering with that

bold. i was referring to what happened before then. read the manga fool

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Parried all his strikes and was only . bee did not land one solid hit, he did that while not . but he get destroyed by neji in close range when his best feats are against mediocre part 1 characters(base naruto, hinata etc). lay off the drugs and hop off his nuts

Forget MS, hebi sasuke beats this overrated clown low/mid dif. if you want to argue that, then go ahead.

@bold, why is lee irrelevant? after all can sasuke not neg him with nagashi then?

So backing off and running away is called parrying then? You think running back is equal to fighting bee on equal grounds? Or are you suggesting that bee was moving towards sasuke at some extreme speeds that backing off is a huge feat? How is this even a feat. He has sharingan, so obviously, he was gonna block a strike or two. But he was by no means an equal of bee since he got his chest blown. And if he wasn't equal then it's pointless to even mention bee.
And i know neji is a side character, or are you just gonna pretend that he has to slay main villains to be able to compete with main characters?
@2ndBold, And you say, i am on drugs, sigh.
 
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So basically you had no proof of what you are saying? good to know. Lee is irrelevant so not bothering with that

bold. i was referring to what happened before then. read the manga fool

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Parried all his strikes and was only . bee did not land one solid hit, he did that while not . but he get destroyed by neji in close range when his best feats are against mediocre part 1 characters(base naruto, hinata etc). lay off the drugs and hop off his nuts

Forget MS, hebi sasuke beats this overrated clown low/mid dif. if you want to argue that, then go ahead.

You are wasting your time. Anyone who this Neji is anywhere near any Version of Sasuke in Part II in regards to speed and CQC is ****ing stupid and should be laughed at. Let me present the full picture:

Sasuke was keeping up with Bee just fine despite his injuries:

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Not only that, Sasuke was fast enough to throw his sword from the left hand into the right one and hit himself with Chidori to make the stabs non-lethal before a single one connected. Notice how Sasuke uses Chidori with the left hand and picks up the sword in the same one:

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Notice that the sword is still in the left hand and the Chidori streaming is still there:

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When Bee stabs, Sasuke's sword is in his right hand and his Chidori is gone:

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Bee confirms it that Sasuke streamed Raiton through his body to make the stabs non-lethal:

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So, as I stated before, before Bee stabbed him, Sasuke threw his sword in the other hand and hit himself with the Chidori. It's ****ing mental how people keep posting bull-shit about KCM Naruto or Minato being faster than Sasuke. It's straight up rubbish as Naruto was contantly saved by Bee countless times against foes. Countless.

That's not all, he moved so fast that Bee compared his reflex and body manuvering speed to V1 Raikage as he saw Sasuke move at the same speed:

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Sasuke jumped on cloaked Bee's back here and flipped SIX ****ing times in air and touched the ground, when Bee is still in air. Six ****ing times and Bee has yet to even move an inch when he rolled three times! This is the same speed Bee uses when performing the "Double Lariat" with V1 Ae; he matches his speed and Sasuke has shown to move faster than him. TWICE!

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Not only that, a healthy Itachi never took on Bee. He straight up parried him:

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And before anyone says, "oh yes, he did! Look at those 'impact' points," then, no. He did not. The 'clank clank' marks are still there and Itachi has parried away. But Neji has a chance against Sasuke in CQC? And Hebi Sasuke; who's faster than MS Sasuke by feats gets matched by Neji?
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why won't chidori nagashi stun lee huh
 

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why won't chidori nagashi stun lee huh

and why can't Neji tank or negate Nagashi by emitting chakra ?

and no, I am not saying that he can beat Hebi or MS Sasuke
 
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and why can't Neji tank or negate Nagashi by emitting chakra ?

uh when did i deny that.I only asked why nagashi won't work on lee
 

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What's stopping Neji from just one-shotting Sauce with airpalm as soon as the fight starts?

Lol MS Sasuke pastes this pincushion with zero effort.
 

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XD Come one, no one is saying Neji can beat MS Sasuke, maybe OP is, but most people are just arguing Neji has some good counters against Sasuke, but obviously not enough to win.
 

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He doesn't have any counters. His speed is shit compared to MS and Hebi Sasuke. His CQC is shit. His Ninjutsu is shit. Sasuke is so hilariously under-rated here.
 

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War Arc Neji had no other impressive features other than deflecting the Juubi's Arm with the aid of Hiashi's Kaiten. Defensively, he's pretty good, but hasn't shown anything offensively to suggest that he's as strong as MS Sasuke or even Hebi Sasuke for that matter.

Amaterasu burns through Kaiten and it's the end of him.
 

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War Arc Neji had no other impressive features other than deflecting the Juubi's Arm with the aid of Hiashi's Kaiten. Defensively, he's pretty good, but hasn't shown anything offensively to suggest that he's as strong as MS Sasuke or even Hebi Sasuke for that matter.

Neji definitely still best Sasuke when it comes to CQC. Sasuke's strike speed feats doesnt come close to Neji's who was able to strike out 3 bodies before gated guy can blitz Shoto Kisame[ ][ ].

Add the fact that this dude can see 800 meters all around, along with sensing chakra built on the body to increase his perception. I cant see any blitzing going on and I dont see anything that Neji isnt capable of deflecting, or anything Sasuke has to offer in that category to where Neji would struggle.

Amaterasu burns through Kaiten and it's the end of him.

How so? I dont see any feats of Ammy capable of burning through a solid(or dense) chakra shrod.

Worst case scnerio (no intel). Art of body blow can cancel out Ammy from his body.




MS beats Neji via Sussanoo.
Hebi beats Neji via Snake summon support.
 

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Gai has the same posture even after both Lee and tenten thanks neji so dunno how its blitz.
Also mizu bunshin are weak since part 1 sasuke without sharingan destroyed 4 of zabuza's bunshin
 

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Neji definitely still best Sasuke when it comes to CQC. Sasuke's strike speed feats doesnt come close to Neji's who was able to strike out 3 bodies before gated guy can blitz Shoto Kisame[ ][ ].

MS Sasuke after suffering grave injuries and fatigue from using both Amaterasu and Susano'o managed to deflect Mifune's blade at point-blank range. Not only was this Sasuke who was worn down after battling two of the Gokage, but Sasuke continued to grow even stronger since then. That's a more tangible feat that what you outlined. There is no comparison to be made when we have no idea when Kisame and Gai leaped into the air and quite frankly, Neji doesn't have any feats that were commended as extraordinary as Mifune's who MS Sasuke parried with upmost ease.

Add the fact that this dude can see 800 meters all around, along with sensing chakra built on the body to increase his perception. I cant see any blitzing going on and I dont see anything that Neji isnt capable of deflecting, or anything Sasuke has to offer in that category to where Neji would struggle.

The Byakugan doesn't have the clairvoyant properties of the Sharingan, so it's inherently inferior in CQC, but I agree that Hebi Sasuke and possibly MS Sasuke wouldn't blitz.

How so? I dont see any feats of Ammy capable of burning through a solid(or dense) chakra shrod.

Worst case scnerio (no intel). Art of body blow can cancel out Ammy from his body.




MS beats Neji via Sussanoo.
Hebi beats Neji via Snake summon support.

Sasuke could've incinerated the Hachibi whose chakra in both size and quality eclipses Neji's Kaiten and Cerebrus was also incinerated despite its ability to endure FRS. You're telling me with this in mind that Amaterasu, with its ability to burn through any type of chakra, is going to fail against Kaiten despite its ability to incinerate the most resilient forms of chakra to ever exist? Seems asinine.
 

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@bold, why is lee irrelevant? after all can sasuke not neg him with nagashi then?

So backing off and running away is called parrying then? You think running back is equal to fighting bee on equal grounds? Or are you suggesting that bee was moving towards sasuke at some extreme speeds that backing off is a huge feat? How is this even a feat. He has sharingan, so obviously, he was gonna block a strike or two. But he was by no means an equal of bee since he got his chest blown. And if he wasn't equal then it's pointless to even mention bee.
And i know neji is a side character, or are you just gonna pretend that he has to slay main villains to be able to compete with main characters?
@2ndBold, And you say, i am on drugs, sigh.
Because he has nothing to do with the argument but since you want to know, yes sasuke will beat lee as well

parry

ward off (a weapon or attack) with a countermove.
"he parried the blow by holding his sword vertically"
synonyms: ward off, fend off, stave off, turn aside; More
noun
1.
an act of parrying something.
"the swords clashed in a parry"

the bold is exactly what he was doing in those scans, meeting bee swords with his own. so yes he was parrying, not running away. whether he is equal with bee or not is irrelevant as bee>>neji thus he will do better against the inferior opponent who uses taijutsu. having sharingan does not mean you can automatically react as lee vs sasuke showed us, the person body also needs to be capable of keeping up. so do not mention that again. whats funny is you haven't even brought up any noteworthy argument, based on how neji can win, just defense.

Gai has the same posture even after both Lee and tenten thanks neji so dunno how its blitz.
Also mizu bunshin are weak since part 1 sasuke without sharingan destroyed 4 of zabuza's bunshin
Right. and that is apparently a feat that lets him beat sasuke in CQC. jokers
 

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Amaterasu burns through Kaiten and it's the end of him.

And why wouldn't Kaiten repel and reflect Amaterasu? why would the flames stick in order to even burn it?
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And why wouldn't Kaiten repel and reflect Amaterasu? why would the flames stick in order to even burn it?
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Because Amaterasu would be consuming the chakra that would otherwise be used for repelling attacks.
 

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Because Amaterasu would be consuming the chakra that would otherwise be used for repelling attacks.

But why wouldn't it get repelled on contact? It didn't instant burn through Naruto's thin cloak so idk whyy it would stick to kaiten long enough to burn when ntn suggest it would.
 

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Gai has the same posture even after both Lee and tenten thanks neji so dunno how its blitz.

Thats just better testament to Neji's strike speed. He leveled the ground, shown as his attempt to do a super jump. . It came from his stance ready to launch in the air.

Also mizu bunshin are weak since part 1 sasuke without sharingan destroyed 4 of zabuza's bunshin

Never used the strength of the opponent for my argument. I strictly used it for the speed of Neji's strikes.

MS Sasuke after suffering grave injuries and fatigue from using both Amaterasu and Susano'o managed to deflect Mifune's blade at point-blank range. Not only was this Sasuke who was worn down after battling two of the Gokage, but Sasuke continued to grow even stronger since then. That's a more tangible feat that what you outlined. There is no comparison to be made when we have no idea when Kisame and Gai leaped into the air and quite frankly, Neji doesn't have any feats that were commended as extraordinary as Mifune's who MS Sasuke parried with upmost ease.

Although its a good feat that doesn't change my strike speed argument Neji has against Sasuke since your argument is based on countering a attack thats built on a single strike (yes capable of stopping hand signs), along with parrying. Not necessary the same as Sasuke's own intentional strike speed, which isnt easier then blocking.

There no need for those specific measurements when scans gave Guy a specific panel with the intention to jump. While at the same time Neji's intention to take out the clones to save this team. Neji saved the team before Guy officially made his jump to Kisame. Thats all that matters for that argument that both simultaneously were in action.

Sasuke could've incinerated the Hachibi whose chakra in both size and quality eclipses Neji's Kaiten and Cerebrus was also incinerated despite its ability to endure FRS. You're telling me with this in mind that Amaterasu, with its ability to burn through any type of chakra, is going to fail against Kaiten despite its ability to incinerate the most resilient forms of chakra to ever exist? Seems asinine.

Hachibi's chakra was never exposed to Amterasu, dont know why you even brought that up.This particular ABC here doesnt work. You can't used that analogy unless you are willing to argue that Kaiken cant block a Kuma Shiruken because Hachici tail can easily be bisect from it. Fact is Amatersu Enton only succeed in burn through lightening chakra cloak. Any form other chakra shield had failed. Unless you are willing to aruge that Kaiken defense is as good as lightening cloak, then I can see your point.
 
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