Most logical/illogical fanbases

[Mellanoma]

Don't know of Kabuto's proficiency with Edo Tensei, though considering he was able to ressurect Madara BEYOND his prime, I'm certain he can restore people to their original states. In any case, this scan here implies that the more chakra one has, the faster and stronger they are. Itachi was so strong and powerful despite his low chakra levels because of his amazing chakra control which allowed him to use his chakra efficiently. Now take someone like him who was able to make such good use of his low stamina and give him endless chakra, and naturally this would mean his speed and strength would increase drastically. As such, I don't think its a fair assessment to say Edo Itachi's feats would be the same as alive Itachi's.

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Nope!

Madara was created pass his prime based on Kabuto's words

Orochimaru was the closest to bringing someone back full power.

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Also Itachi stamina was heavily underrated as he fought Sasuke on his death bed and lasted long enough to use Tsukyomi, Amaterasu spam, V3 Susanoo and lots of taijutsu and ninjutsu

 

[Made in Heaven]

Madara was created pass his prime based on Kabuto's words

Orochimaru was the closest to bringing someone back full power.

Oro and Kabuto aren't the same, its totally possible for Kabuto to have been better at the technique than him. In fact, I'm pretty sure Kabuto even says that he's perfected the technique.

Also Itachi stamina was heavily underrated as he fought Sasuke on his death bed and lasted long enough to use Tsukyomi, Amaterasu spam, V3 Susanoo and lots of taijutsu and ninjutsu

Yes, and the eventually ended in him dying from loss of chakra. His chakra levels are low, its his chakra control that somewhat makes up for it. As an edo, his chakra would sky rocket to the point that it would naturally increase his performance in every way.

 

[UnknownJin]

Also Itachi stamina was heavily underrated as he fought Sasuke on his death bed and lasted long enough to use Tsukyomi, Amaterasu spam, V3 Susanoo and lots of taijutsu and ninjutsu

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[Amenotejikara]

Don't know of Kabuto's proficiency with Edo Tensei, though considering he was able to ressurect Madara BEYOND his prime, I'm certain he can restore people to their original states. In any case, this scan here implies that the more chakra one has, the faster and stronger they are. Itachi was so strong and powerful despite his low chakra levels because of his amazing chakra control which allowed him to use his chakra efficiently. Now take someone like him who was able to make such good use of his low stamina and give him endless chakra, and naturally this would mean his speed and strength would increase drastically. As such, I don't think its a far assessment to say Edo Itachi's feats would be the same as alive Itachi's.

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kabuto brought him back to his prime age instead of an old geezer. he say he brought madara beyond his prime but the latter quickly debunked it saying he already had that power. besides, edo madara strength pales in comparison to the madara that was revived from rinne-tensei, Same with hashirama and lesser extent tobirama, that's a fact. Now for the assumption part it probably doesn't apply to itachi and the others as much since there potency isn't as overpowered but the fact still remains, they don't get stronger by edo tensei.

Kaguya scan doesn't apply here. People forget that itachi stamina and chakra wasn't always low, it decreased because of his sickness. So yes in a way that would bring itachi back to his prime healthy state by giving him the more chakra he inevitably lost over the years but the feats still remain himself lol because chakra from edo tensei doesn't stack power but rather compensates.

 

[shelke]

Versus debaters, the most idiotic group on NB. Their rape of science and logic is enough to make all scientists turn them in their graves like 20 dollar whores. :kd:


When was Itachi's Stamina low? He made one crow clone (that reduces the user's chakra either by half or close to half) and then used Amaterasu twice, Tsukuyomi, Katon twice, ShurikenJutsu and the highest level of Susanno long enough to seal Orochimaru. Is this a running gag on this base? So, he was on about 50% chakra when the fight with Sasuke started?

Do people actually believe DB stats to be comparable? This base!

 

[Holy God]

Don't know of Kabuto's proficiency with Edo Tensei, though considering he was able to ressurect Madara BEYOND his prime, I'm certain he can restore people to their original states. In any case, this scan here implies that the more chakra one has, the faster and stronger they are. Itachi was so strong and powerful despite his low chakra levels because of his amazing chakra control which allowed him to use his chakra efficiently. Now take someone like him who was able to make such good use of his low stamina and give him endless chakra, and naturally this would mean his speed and strength would increase drastically. As such, I don't think its a fair assessment to say Edo Itachi's feats would be the same as alive Itachi's.

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Those under Impure World Resurrection do not have unlimited chakra. Their chakra regenerates infinitely and at a very fast rate, but it is still limited to an amount at or below that of when they were alive.

 

[Nattana]

Best fanbase: Orochimaru

Decent fanbase: Sasuke, Madara, Itachi (sometimes delusional, but with a lot of fair points)

Trash fanbase: Minato (!), Obito (!), Hiruzen

 

[LordRaikage]

minato negs itachi

 

[Amenotejikara]

Versus debaters, the most idiotic group on NB. Their rape of science and logic is enough to make all scientists turn them in their graves like 20 dollar whores. :kd:


When was Itachi's Stamina low? He made one crow clone (that reduces the user's chakra either by half or close to half) and then used Amaterasu twice, Tsukuyomi, Katon twice, ShurikenJutsu and the highest level of Susanno long enough to seal Orochimaru. Is this a running gag on this base? So, he was on about 50% chakra when the fight with Sasuke started?

Do people actually believe DB stats to be comparable? This base!

Databook list itachi's stamina at 2.5 that's the same as sakura's But I agree that people (usually jiraiya faps) exaggerate itachi's longevity. His used of clones, genjutsu and mangekyou against naruto and sasuke on the same day iirc. either way he shown more than enough to win most fights before running low, especially due to how powerful his techniques to end the fight relatively quick against kage lvls.

edit: yeah I do believe the DB is a bit ridiculous. lol

 

[LordRaikage]

Best fanbase: Orochimaru

Decent fanbase: Sasuke, Madara, Itachi (sometimes delusional, but with a lot of fair points)

Trash fanbase: Minato (!), Hiruzen

Best Fanbase: ....

TRASH FANBAsES:ITACHI,SASUKE,HIRUZEN,MADARA,TOBIDARA

 

[Mellanoma]

Versus debaters, the most idiotic group on NB. Their rape of science and logic is enough to make all scientists turn them in their graves like 20 dollar whores. :kd:


When was Itachi's Stamina low? He made one crow clone (that reduces the user's chakra either by half or close to half) and then used Amaterasu twice, Tsukuyomi, Katon twice, ShurikenJutsu and the highest level of Susanno long enough to seal Orochimaru. Is this a running gag on this base? So, he was on about 50% chakra when the fight with Sasuke started?

Do people actually believe DB stats to be comparable? This base!

Database stats. The Rustling they have caused in the past under my control XD

Best Fanbase: ....

TRASH FANBAsES:ITACHI,SASUKE,HIRUZEN,MADARA,TOBIDARA

Funny how 4 of those people have Manga, Databook and feats to back their abilities. Im guessing your favorite chars go off of public opinion with very little feats?

 

[LordRaikage]

Databook list itachi's stamina at 2.5 that's the same as sakura's But I agree that people (usually jiraiya faps) exaggerate itachi's longevity. His used of clones, genjutsu and mangekyou against naruto and sasuke on the same day iirc. either way he shown more than enough to win most fights before running low, especially due to how powerful his techniques to end the fight relatively quick against kage lvls.

databook listed minato's stats wAY ABOVE ITACHI's.

 

[Amenotejikara]

minato negs itachi

Couldn't even neg kid obito or kurama gtfoh

databook listed minato's stats wAY ABOVE ITACHI's.

doesn't even list minatos

- itachi got 5 in speed, int, nin and gen :lol

 

[Mellanoma]

Couldn't even neg kid obito or kurama gtoh

After Kushina and hiruzen did 90% of the work against Kurama

 

[shelke]

Databook list itachi's stamina at 2.5 that's the same as sakura's But I agree that people (usually jiraiya faps) exaggerate itachi's longevity. His used of clones, genjutsu and mangekyou against naruto and sasuke on the same day iirc. either way he shown more than enough to win most fights before running low, especially due to how powerful his techniques to end the fight relatively quick against kage lvls.

edit: yeah I do believe the DB is a bit ridiculous. lol

The stats are not comparable. They show a person's potential, otherwise, Asuma had higher stats compared to Hidan. Why did he lose to him in Taijutsu? Kakashi's stats are the same, then why was he getting pushed back and not going on the offensive? Sasuke had a lower score in Genjutsu compared to Orochimaru, then why did he trash him; he literally turned his whole world against him.

They cannot be compared. Itachi lost his Stamina potential. That is all.

Database stats. The Rustling they have caused in the past under my control XD

Funny how 4 of those people have Manga, Databook and feats to back their abilities. Im guessing your favorite chars go off of public opinion with very little feats?

DB stats are pointless. If those are to go by, then anyone who has a five in Ninjutsu, his Chaka Control is comparable to Sasuke's, when it's not even close. Heck, Sakura's intelligence stats are almost the same as Sasuke's, which is laughable.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

What good does this kind of thread bring again?:elmo:

 

[Amenotejikara]

After Kushina and hiruzen did 90% of the work against Kurama

yup and minato fanboys would still go as far to claim he could rival let alone beat hashirama

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The stats are not comparable. They show a person's potential, otherwise, Asuma had higher stats compared to Hidan. Why did he lose to him in Taijutsu? Kakashi's stats are the same, then why was he getting pushed back and not going on the offensive? Sasuke had a lower score in Genjutsu compared to Orochimaru, then why did he trash him; he literally turned his whole world against him.

They cannot be compared. Itachi lost his Stamina potential. That is all.



DB stats are pointless. If those are to go by, then anyone who has a five has Chaka Control comparable to Sasuke's, when it's not even close. Heck, Sakura's intelligence stats are almost the same as Sasuke's, which is laughable.

Yeah that's true. I also think the databook only focuses on the base of the character not their enhancements like sharingan.

DB stats are pointless. If those are to go by, then anyone who has a five in Ninjutsu, his Chaka Control is comparable to Sasuke's, when it's not even close. Heck, Sakura's intelligence stats are almost the same as Sasuke's, which is laughable.

wow I just checked, sakura's is higher than sasuke's. Hmm. I'm pretty sure it's a different type of intelligence probably book smarts cause kakashi noted she would qualify as a genjutsu user which requires high intelligence and part 1 sasuke did say he was impressed by her analytical skills during the chuunin exam written test. But I highly doubt she could be as sharp minded as someone whose been fighting kage lvls from start to finish of shippuden so he has to be smarter.

 

[Mellanoma]

The stats are not comparable. They show a person's potential, otherwise, Asuma had higher stats compared to Hidan. Why did he lose to him in Taijutsu? Kakashi's stats are the same, then why was he getting pushed back and not going on the offensive? Sasuke had a lower score in Genjutsu compared to Orochimaru, then why did he trash him; he literally turned his whole world against him.

They cannot be compared. Itachi lost his Stamina potential. That is all.



DB stats are pointless. If those are to go by, then anyone who has a five has Chaka Control comparable to Sasuke's, when it's not even close. Heck, Sakura's intelligence stats are almost the same as Sasuke's, which is laughable.

I've always considered them the standard of what a Shinobi should have.

For example. if moving 10mph gets you a 5.

Any one faster than 10mph gets a 5 Rather you move 50mph or 1000mph you still get a 5

In Part 1 Databook stats made more sense as they really showed in the fights. Part 2 he kinda threw it all out the window.

What good does this kind of thread bring again?:elmo:

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[shelke]

Yeah that's true. I also think the databook only focuses on the base of the character not their enhancements like sharingan.

Itachi's Genjutsu isn't any special without the Sharingan. Also, I highly doubt the DB didn't take Hyuga's Byakugan into consideration for the stats.

I've always considered them the standard of what a Shinobi should have.

For example. if moving 10mph gets you a 5.

Any one faster than 10mph gets a 5 Rather you move 50mph or 1000mph you still get a 5

In Part 1 Databook stats made more sense as they really showed in the fights. Part 2 he kinda threw it all out the window.

I disagree. If that was the case then Kurenai wouldn't have been shat on. 5 simply means it cannot be improved. The user has reached his/hers potential. Take Sasuke, for instance, Orochimaru outright states that he's brighter than Anko. Haku states so. And yet, his stats are not that impressive. When his feats prove otherwise.

I consider 5 to be the best a user can be. His own limit. That's the only logical explanation.

 

[Mellanoma]

Itachi's Genjutsu isn't any special without the Sharingan. Also, I highly doubt the DB didn't take Hyuga's Byakugan into consideration for the stats.



I disagree. If that was the case then Kurenai wouldn't have been shat on. 5 simply means it cannot be improved. The user has reached his/hers potential. Take Sasuke, for instance, Orochimaru outright states that he's brighter than Anko. Haku states so. And yet, his stats are not that impressive. When his feats prove otherwise.

I consider 5 to be the best a user can be. His own limit. That's the only logical explanation.

she was Shat on due to Itachi's Sharingan being able to see through her Genjutsu not because she was less skilled than Itachi. Kurenai also didn't know to avoid eye contact