Ikr lol. Now these fodders posting memes since manga disagrees with them.MS Sasuke > Raikage what y'all talking about?
OP he's more in between imo but he is rash and all ways go head first but he can be calm when needed.
3 Tomoe Genjutsu one-shots all the shit Kages:Actually, you're comparing Gaara Retrieval Arc Gaara to Itachi Pursuit Mission Arc Sasuke so
And Naruto>Pain, Pain>Kakazu, Kakazu>Deidara soooo....
Oh and Kirin is an extremely hard technique to prepare and can only be used once in a fight and also takes quite a long time to use, thus why Sasuke barely uses it
Haha, no. Gaara was shitted on with basic homing birds. He was defeated well before he ever saved the village. He was finished well before that. Deidara didn't even use C1 or C2 on him and still he lost when he had the whole desert at his disposal. I can't believe people actually think Deidara would have won, when he was a Jin then, backed by a ****ing desert.XD. Deidara was not stronger than Gaara. He simply out strategized him. Gaara had to defend his village and people in addition to fighting Deidara. Had they been away from the village Deidara would have died.
It's still Deidara's win of course. But he wasn't stronger than Gaara.
OT: sure I can roll with what the OP is saying. I don't think he was a terrible Raikage, just not the brightest fighter.
And the proof of this would be ... what? Post the scan to prove this. We can all wait. As Mello stated, Gaara's measly bit of sand was more durable that Raikage's V2 Armour and the Susanno! Haha, GuntahBuntah!One chop of his hand damn near broke ribcage Susano, you think Guillotine wouldn't have finished it? Stop the denial, we both know that kick, had it landed, would've decimated Sasuke.
...why would it not? Really, there's not much I need to prove. One blow from the Raikage broke through the Ribcage Susanoo, why would the other one not?And the proof of this would be ... what? Post the scan to prove this. We can all wait. As Mello stated, Gaara measly bit of sand was more durable that Raikage's kick and the Susanno! Haha, GuntahBuntah!
You're the one who claimed that besides other reasons that his means of attacking somehow contributes to him being a bad shinobi yet when I point out how OP he is regardless of that you turn around and claim the thread isn't about how strong he is, why even mention how he attacks at all then?I hate to say it but the Fourth Raikage was indeed a terrible shinobi and a terrible Kage.
Irrational:
Wreckless:
No analytics
No strategy
His only means of combat was punching and blitzing.
If you look at all his fights he would have surely died due to:
No intel or refusing to use intel.
Not taking time to think things through.
Not waiting to see what his opponent was capable of.
Suicidal attacks with no guarantee of victory.
Had he been a normal Jounin or a simple S rank ninja it would be stupid but understandable to a degree
However, as a Kage it is your duty to know your enemy especially one as deadly as Minato and MS sasuke.
Thoughts?
Joke post, right? Are you seriously suggesting that his tiny bit of sand was more durable than Raikage's V2 armour coated with a Bijuu-level Chakra and V3 Susanoo combined? Not only that, where is your proof that GD is more powerful than LB? What proof do you have for that? How does he get through Enton spikes? You have a lot to answer here, man. :kd:...why would it not? Really, there's not much I need to prove. One blow from the Raikage broke through the Ribcage Susanoo, why would the other one not?
Because there is no tactical thinking involved with his attacks.You're the one who claimed that besides other reasons that his means of attacking somehow contributes to him being a bad shinobi yet when I point out how OP he is regardless of that you turn around and claim the thread isn't about how strong he is, why even mention how he attacks at all then?
Yeah, apparently it was. It did block him, didn't it? But he did *****slap straight through Sasuke's Ribcage Susanoo, so make of that what you will.Joke post, right? Are you seriously suggesting that his tiny bit of sand was more durable than Raikage's V2 armour coated with a Bijuu-level Chakra and V3 Susanoo combined? Not only that, where is your proof that GD is more powerful than LB? What proof do you have for that? How does he get through Enton spikes? You have a lot to answer here, man. :kd:
He was involved in a situation about his family when he acted reckless, sasuke was just as reckless at times and would've lost his life were it not for Obito so you judging him based off of pretty much 1 encounter is biased as heck.Because there is no tactical thinking involved with his attacks.
Minato is a short range blitz shinobi as well but he evaluates situations BEFORE making crazy moves. As seen in the manga the few times he doesn't calculate properly he suffers for it. SAME as Raikage.
Minato excuse was EDO however Raikage overconfidence in his Rai armor lead him to be way too wreckless which is something I would never expect from a Kage
Hell even Obito was tactical about blitzing and this ****er can make himself phase out
So, you are basing this on a make-believe premise that has zero proof in the manga? Hilarious.Yeah, apparently it was. It did block him, didn't it? But he did *****slap straight through Sasuke's Ribcage Susanoo, so make of that what you will.
Hm...no, I'm fairly sure he broke through Sasuke's ribcage Susanoo and that the sand blocked his kick. The discussion here basically ammounts to "can the Raikage do the same thing he did with a swing of his arm but with his leg instead"? And I say...yeah, why not.So, you are basing this on a make-believe premise that has zero proof in the manga? Hilarious.
GD >> LB ... the proof is this is where in the manga?Hm...no, I'm fairly sure he broke through Sasuke's ribcage Susanoo and that the sand blocked his kick. The discussion here basically ammounts to "can the Raikage do the same thing he did with a swing of his arm but with his leg instead"? And I say...yeah, why not.
Blah blah blah blah...eh...I just don't give a Flying F to be bothered anymore:bdpf:Raikage was too stupid for Sasuke who has outwitted opponents way smarter than him. Way smarter. Heck, even with the backings of two of his Jounins, one Kage and two other guard Jounins, the little ***** still failed. Lost a whole arm and was about to get his anus pried open with Amaterasu spikes had Gaara not shown up. And all he gave Sasuke was a tiny scratch. Heh. :kd:
3 Tomoe Genjutsu one-shots all the shit Kages:
Kakashi is creaming his pants that he's met with a legitimate Sharingan user, when he hasn't even taken his MS out:
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Or these:
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All of the above was said about a regular Sharingan Genjutsu. Kakashi talks about MS here:
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Heck, Chiyo didn't even know Itachi had MS.
These too:
Naruto and Itachi reinforced the idea here about 3 Tomoe Sharingan:
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Or the databook:
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If tailed beasts can be easily controlled with it (bar Kurama that requires an MS to do so, but it can be easily suppressed with it), Genjutsu Kai is useless, two people are required to fight one Uchiha with a 3Tomoe Sharingan and Genjutsu experts failed miserabily against it: Kurenai, Chee and Orochimaru all got steam-rolled! Uchihas a simply OP. Deal with it.
And Kakuzu > Deidara? This guy is something else! And Naruto > Pein, which is why Ma summoned all toads, larger summons distracted him as he entered into SM again and Kurama stepped in (along with his dad) to rescue him? And then he magically got out of CT and was in SM when CT was still intact. Coolio! Naruto > Pein, indeed.
Haha, no. Gaara was shitted on with basic homing birds. He was defeated well before he ever saved the village. He was finished well before that. Deidara didn't even use C1 or C2 on him and still he lost when he had the whole desert at his disposal. I can't believe people actually think Deidara would have won, when he was a Jin then, backed by a ****ing desert.
And the proof of this would be ... what? Post the scan to prove this. We can all wait. As Mello stated, Gaara's measly bit of sand was more durable that Raikage's V2 Armour and the Susanno! Haha, GuntahBuntah!
Then, why did you reply? Makes no sense.Blah blah blah blah...eh...I just don't give a Flying F to be bothered anymore:bdpf:
What world do you live in where swinging your arm in a chopping motion is more effective than jumping high into the air and slamming down a kick onto someone?GD >> LB ... the proof is this is where in the manga?
How did this become about Sasuke?He was involved in a situation about his family when he acted reckless, sasuke was just as reckless at times and would've lost his life were it not for Obito so you judging him based off of pretty much 1 encounter is biased as heck.
At the bold, Dude get off your high horse. This is just a debate on a forum and if you feel the need to act so smug get a friggin life. You proved nothing other than the fact that Raikage was emotional when attacking sasuke. The cloud believed sasuke killed bee and they must have loved him deeply as they were all upset, evidenced by team 7's meeting with Karui and Omoi.How did this become about Sasuke?
Also Raikage being emotional is a BS claim as he was wreckless against Minato as well.
Was hoping i didnt have to bring out the manga facts but this is what I get for trusting in people
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I suggest you stop flip-flopping and bring in some facts; how is GD more powerful than LB? Where is the canon image to prove that? Got anything to match?What world do you live in where swinging your arm in a chopping motion is more effective than jumping high into the air and slamming down a kick onto someone?