That doesn't balance out though preta path take chakra and make that chakra their own. Once it's taken it becomes the users own reserves.
Kurama gave Naruto all the chakra he had left because Naruto had no chakra left so he used Kurama's chakra to make the Rasengan. It was a Kurama powered Rasengan.
Having the rinnegan and the preta path doesn't balance, because Naruto doesn't have a dojutsu or access to any of the OP and plurality of abilities things like the Rinngan and MS give a user. Sasuke ran out of chakra before Naruto and had to steal from him in order to keep fighting.
ok idk why sasukebase keeps recruiting people with questionable IQs...
its making me embarrassed to be a sasuke fan.
first off, dudes and dudettes, the thread made it specifically clear that chidori couldnt pierce the rasengan.
WTF and where tf are you getting "dodging" sasuke from or throwing in speed feats?
who is faster than who and such... -_-
the point is rasengan chidori head to head direct contact collision. there's no point in discussing who is faster than who. who can fly and who can't.
what kind of argument are you guys bringing into the table?
ok idk why sasukebase keeps recruiting people with questionable IQs...
its making me embarrassed to be a sasuke fan.
first off, dudes and dudettes, the thread made it specifically clear that chidori couldnt pierce the rasengan.
WTF and where tf are you getting "dodging" sasuke from or throwing in speed feats?
who is faster than who and such... -_-
the point is rasengan chidori head to head direct contact collision. there's no point in discussing who is faster than who. who can fly and who can't.
what kind of argument are you guys bringing into the table?
Nah Kakashi even reckoned that later on and said they would kill each other with those techniques fam.
Naruto didn't convert that chakra to his own that was pure Kurama chakra.
That doesn't balance out though preta path take chakra and make that chakra their own. Once it's taken it becomes the users own reserves.
Kurama gave Naruto all the chakra he had left because Naruto had no chakra left so he used Kurama's chakra to make the Rasengan. It was a Kurama powered Rasengan.
That makes no sense given Naruto's chakra has been mixing with Kurama before he was even born and after it was sealed in him. Kurama and his chakra are one and the same when it's given to him anyway. Right?
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The properties of his chakra wouldn't be any different unless he's using Kurama's chakra directly in which the chakra would change color to match (red)
Thread is bs. and not surprised the usual suspects in that fandom come out in full support. You say chidori does not get past rasengan even though the same can be said reversely Rasengan does not also get past chidori in all their clashes so it being stronger is unfounded. mentioning its properties and all that is irrelevant and even with that, chidori still matches it. even if you use that explode upon contact argument, if it was stronger than chidori then at the very least ssuke should receieve more damage from the clash but that is not always the case.
it doing more damage to the tank is irrelevant as chidori is a thrusting attack which is focused so its obviously not going to make a giant ass hole that is spread out.
Indras arrow did not get through not because of any rasengan properties but most likely due the wind nature added and it was two attack against one and still tied it.
Thread is bs. and not surprised the usual suspects in that fandom come out in full support. You say chidori does not get past rasengan even though the same can be said reversely Rasengan does not also get past chidori in all their clashes so it being stronger is unfounded. mentioning its properties and all that is irrelevant and even with that, chidori still matches it. even if you use that explode upon contact argument, if it was stronger than chidori then at the very least ssuke should receieve more damage from the clash but that is not always the case.
it doing more damage to the tank is irrelevant as chidori is a thrusting attack which is focused so its obviously not going to make a giant ass hole that is spread out.
Indras arrow did not get through not because of any rasengan properties but most likely due the wind nature added and it was two attack against one and still tied it.
Thread is bs. and not surprised the usual suspects in that fandom come out in full support. You say chidori does not get past rasengan even though the same can be said reversely Rasengan does not also get past chidori in all their clashes so it being stronger is unfounded. mentioning its properties and all that is irrelevant and even with that, chidori still matches it. even if you use that explode upon contact argument, if it was stronger than chidori then at the very least ssuke should receieve more damage from the clash but that is not always the case.
it doing more damage to the tank is irrelevant as chidori is a thrusting attack which is focused so its obviously not going to make a giant ass hole that is spread out.
Indras arrow did not get through not because of any rasengan properties but most likely due the wind nature added and it was two attack against one and still tied it.
Yes and Minato is superior than Naruto until war or even further only on rasengan.
Also, I dont think Minato couldn't accomplish such feat of making a superior version of the rasengan, it is just that he didn't have enough time.
He has the talent that Kakashi said it is needed. Minato maybe develop the rasengan when he was 18 or even in his 20's. We dont know how much time he had.
What we do know is that Minato have master everything he wanted. Fuinjutsu master (even better than a Uzumaki), summon jutsus master and maybe even better than Jiraiya, space-time jutsus master, speedster jutsus masery, shuriken no jutsus mastery, sensory jutsus mastery, barrier jutsus mastery, even perfect sage mode user, and even acknowledge as the most intelligent ninja ever. He even knows at least two natures and i dont doubt he has master them and that is why he was combining it with his rasengan.
Where he sets his goals he achieves it. So I am pretty sure he didnt had enough time to take the rasengan to an other level, knowing all these stuff take pretty much time, even Orochimaru said that Kakashi was young to know fuinjutsus and he was older than Minato.
Minato didnt show any feat of rasengan till he was Hokage. Not even when he fought Bee and Raikage and not even in their other fights because Bee didn't that the rasengan was made by Minato therfore never seen him use it.
So this means Minato created the rasengan when he was between 20 and 24.
Well the rasengan is a base tbb, Raw/NE, so there should be no clashing with it.. Sure chidori is strong but it's not raw energy like a tbb so Naruto got nerfed big time for it.. "To be equal"
As i said L O S T... There should be no clashin with raw NE.. It's dust if your on the other end of it..
How many times more do you need to see their clash to see that? You posted the rooftop scan, but left out this:
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as well as ignoring the fact that Jiraiya said in your scan, that Chidori was too much too.
Rasengan is the highest level of shape transformation alone, and Chidori requires a level of shape transformation and nature transformation. Rasengan is a generalized blast and Chidori is a focused stab.
You can't shake up someone's internals with a Chidori but you can't leave a gaping hole in someone's body with a Rasengan either.
How many times more do you need to see their clash to see that? You posted the rooftop scan, but left out this:
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as well as ignoring the fact that Jiraiya said in your scan, that Chidori was too much too.
Rasengan is the highest level of shape transformation alone, and Chidori requires a level of shape transformation and nature transformation. Rasengan is a generalized blast and Chidori is a focused stab.
You can't shake up someone's internals with a Chidori but you can't leave a gaping hole in someone's body with a Rasengan either.
Guys i'm sorry if the title is misleading but what i meant by Sasuke failing at the end was how he wan't able to get through/penetrate the Rasengan. I didn't want to make my title long so i made it like that - sorry.
In this thread, i will carefully explain what Rasengan is and why Sasuke couldn't get through it during every match.
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Minato was always praised of being an extremely rare prodigy, and for a prodigy to make & consider such a jutsu the to be the highest form of shape transformation already gives us an idea of how complex it is.
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Here, you will see the changes in behavior & expression of Sasuke that agonizes him till the end
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You can see Sasuke's smug face after comparing their blows on the front side of the tank.
This is after seeing the rear part of the tank:
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This shows that Sasuke admitted defeat & have grown jealous towards Naruto
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Here's a panel that shows Sasuke grumbling over his full powered chidori for not getting through the rasengan:
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and then we see Sasuke thinking of that day again:
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It shows that the Rasengan will be pose a problem for Sasuke as it clearly superior.
3. Okay, now that we're done with Sasuke's point of view, we'll go on with what Kakashi has to say about the rasengan & his in depth explanation of how it actually works.
Kakashi, when encountering the rasengan was so shocking that he was almost in disbelief:
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Even to the point of saying that it would have killed Sasuke:
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Rasengan consists of three main factors:
Rotation
Power
Containment
Explanation:
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Rasengan will grind the target/object and propel it in rotating motion. Another way of saying this is that no matter how much of a power jutsu you throw at it, the rasengans work is to grind it and throw it back, causing a circular explosion. Same goes for the tailed beast bomb. A perfect example would be the father-son rasengan in boruto;
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or this:
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and also the reason why Indra's arrow failed:
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Without a doubt, Indra's arrow didn't loose because it was lacking in power, in fact it might have been more power than the rasenshuriken due to the bijuu chakra, it was simply a bad match up given the rasengans instructions.
But, there is one thing that's unfair for Naruto even though a simple rasengan > chidori. The Rasengan is an incomplete jutsu. Why ? Because it lacks change in chakra nature unlike the chidori. The reason why Kakashi created Raikiri was because he being a genius himself didn't posses the skill to incorporate it.
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Kakashi started to train Naruto only because Naruto was able to master the Rasengan, and had the requirements to create the new super jutsu. And Naruto did that, he was the only shinobi who accomplished the 4th hokage's legacy.
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So now that Naruto has completed the jutsu, why doesn't he use it as a final blow ? Is it because that it's so powerful that it would obliterate Sasuke or simply wants to use the rasengan as it is ? Please do not troll and give out your opinion on this - Thank you.
If rasengan has wind added to it, the manga dictate it to be stronger however kishi BS knows no limits so anything is possible. Otherwise chidori should match rasengan without element.
