[Discussion] What do you think happened?

[MadaraReturns]

When Akainu blew Whitebeards skull and face and neck partly off, do you think Whitebeard was using haki in his face? No right?
I think that he was taken by suprise but what do you guys think?

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[Kushina89]

he was thinking " why the **** did i sacrifice my family and my life for this idiot son who ****ed up everything"

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

But he is still standing

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

No he didn't use haki because haki takes a toll on your physical energy, He was so worn out and sick that he took on the assault by nature. I mean the fact that squalo was able to pierce WB heart with a sword already tells you how weakened-sick WB and how unimpressive it is to use your devil's fruit to target half his face.

Then WB just dropped him in two hits. Just imagine if he was in his prime, because I'm sure one hit would make akainu unconscious and the second would probably kill him.
I'm sure those Akainu nut-riders would cry about it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

No he didn't use haki because haki takes a toll on your physical energy, He was so worn out and sick that he took on the assault by nature. I mean the fact that squalo was able to pierce WB heart with a sword already tells you how weakened-sick WB and how unimpressive it is to use your devil's fruit to target half his face.

Then WB just dropped him in two hits. Just imagine if he was in his prime, because I'm sure one hit would make akainu unconscious and the second would probably kill him.

lmao come up for air at some point.

 

[LBeezy]

I think old age and sickness happened.

If not, then it would've easily been Whitebeard > Akainu.

 

[Skull Knight]

I think WB didn't expected Akainu's punch will do that kind of damage
-he was kind of rusty

-Haki was also not developed like post TS and

-Lets be honest WB was nerfed, he didn't used Conqueror Haki, his armament Haki wasn't that great(as Akainu was making holes in his body) and he hardly showed any skill with his bisento/sword thing.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I think WB didn't expected Akainu's punch will do that kind of damage
-he was kind of rusty

-Haki was also not developed like post TS and

-Lets be honest WB was nerfed, he didn't used Conqueror Haki, his armament Haki wasn't that great(as Akainu was making holes in his body) and he hardly showed any skill with his bisento/sword thing.

I love how you say his Haki wasn't that great because Akainu was injuring him, as if Akainu is some slouch.

 

[Skull Knight]

I love how you say his Haki wasn't that great because Akainu was injuring him, as if Akainu is some slouch.

But it's truth.
If his Haki was that great he would have killed Aokiji when he jumped on his bisento or he would have killed Akainu 2nd round.

 

[Punk Hazard]

But it's truth.
If his Haki was that great he would have killed Aokiji when he jumped on his bisento or he would have killed Akainu 2nd round.

Can't tell if you're severely underestimating the Admirals or hot-dogging Whitebeard with Variah/Rikudo Tobi.

Whitebeard's Haki on the Bisento didn't matter because Aokiji created a hole in his body and the Bisento slid through that open space. It never actually pierced him.

As for killing Akainu, no, there's no way two blows from the Quake would have done that. The Haki was enough to bypass Akainu's Logia intangibility and the Quake does all the work in Whitebeard's blows, so what more would decent Haki have actually done in that situation?

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Hm... I might assert that Whitebeard can't go full-body Armament Haki. Even if we assumed he could, that level of Haki can't guard his body from Logia attacks. Whitebeard during Marineford even since his entrance was weak due to his health. He just pushed himself to do the impossible, but his Haki failed him. Not disrespecting him. It's just that natural law. You born weak, you get stronger, you reach your prime and rule the world, and with time, you get weaker.

 

[Skull Knight]

Can't tell if you're severely underestimating the Admirals or hot-dogging Whitebeard with Variah/Rikudo Tobi

He isn't wrong tho. WB start taking attacks without using armament haki

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U can clearly see he was not using aramament haki because normal swords gets broken easily by armament haki

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Whitebeard's Haki on the Bisento didn't matter because Aokiji created a hole in his body and the Bisento slid through that open space. It never actually pierced him.

As for killing Akainu, no, there's no way two blows from the Quake would have done that. The Haki was enough to bypass Akainu's Logia intangibility and the Quake does all the work in Whitebeard's blows, so what more would decent Haki have actually done in that situation?

WB punches were more related to his gura gura no mi powers. Touching Akainu doesn't prove his aramament haki at that time was top notch since jinbei stopped akainu's Lava punch.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

But it's truth.
If his Haki was that great he would have killed Aokiji when he jumped on his bisento or he would have killed Akainu 2nd round.

Again your making it seem as if the admirals are slouches

Akainu while damaged blocked off marco and vista Haki at the same time without receiving any damage

Akoiji basicallly ties with akainu :|

 

[Skull Knight]

Again your making it seem as if the admirals are slouches

Akainu while damaged blocked off marco and vista Haki at the same time without receiving any damage

Akoiji basicallly ties with akainu :|

I m not downplaying Admirals.
Throughout MF arc WB hardly showed armament haki(it will be not wrong to say that haki as a concept wasn't fully developed that time). U are also under-estimating what WB would have done if he had shown Conqueror Haki or armament in his bisento or more like went full body haki.

 

[Tomato God]

He isn't wrong tho. WB start taking attacks without using armament haki

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U can clearly see he was not using aramament haki because normal swords gets broken easily by armament haki

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WB punches were more related to his gura gura no mi powers. Touching Akainu doesn't prove his aramament haki at that time was top notch since jinbei stopped akainu's Lava punch.

Can we just address how much of a monster he was. He could have legitamently sunk MF

 

[Simpleatitsbest]

When Akainu blew Whitebeards skull and face and neck partly off, do you think Whitebeard was using haki in his face? No right?
I think that he was taken by suprise but what do you guys think?

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I don't think he was using haki, especially no way near to the best of his abilities as it was hinted constantly through the surprise of his crew.

No he didn't use haki because haki takes a toll on your physical energy, He was so worn out and sick that he took on the assault by nature. I mean the fact that squalo was able to pierce WB heart with a sword already tells you how weakened-sick WB and how unimpressive it is to use your devil's fruit to target half his face.

Then WB just dropped him in two hits. Just imagine if he was in his prime, because I'm sure one hit would make akainu unconscious and the second would probably kill him.
I'm sure those Akainu nut-riders would cry about it.

Didn't Oda state that his DF powers hadn't decreased at all? Akainu getting hit by those were just the same as if he was in his prime. So yeah, he'd probably still get back up as he did after the same 2 hits... However, I do feel the fight would have been different with Whitebeard coming out victorious if he was in his prime.

lmao come up for air at some point.

hahahaha, this tickled.