S rank shinobis

[gerizzyYMcrew]

With Intel, if you can't act upon yourself carrying that intel then you individually cannot be considered dangerous.

complete bullshit...with intel alone you could rule the world

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

complete bullshit...with intel alone you could rule the world

If you cannot do anything with all the intel you have, what makes you able to rule the world?

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

If you cannot do anything with all the intel you have, what makes you able to rule the world?

@ bold makes no sense at all

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

@ bold makes no sense at all

That makes complete sense, so I don't get your damage.

cannot-do-anything-with-all-intel-you-have. Do you get that?

Example: Zetsu gets all the intel he needs about growing tomatoes but all the reading/intel he got to grow tomatoes is useless if he cannot use his hands to plant seeds.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

That makes complete sense, so I don't get your damage.

cannot-do-anything-with-all-intel-you-have. Do you get that?

Example: Zetsu gets all the intel he needs about growing tomatoes but all the reading/intel he got to grow tomatoes is useless if he cannot use his hands to plant seeds.

this doesn't apply to zetsu at all

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

this doesn't apply to zetsu at all

Zetsu gathers intel and he needs real S-class shinobis (akatsuki) to use that intel to their advantage against whoever opposes them. Zetsu himself is unable to do anything so that's why I said Zetsu himself is not dangerous.

 

[SenseiSama]

I think Hebi Sasuke is way above people like Zetsu, Asuma, Haku, and Chiyo wouldn't you agree? Hebi Sasuke beat an S-Rank person like Deidara who was strong enough to take on a kage.
Sm Naruto too also surpassed Jiraiya and he is utilizing frog senjutsu to its maximum proficiency. Like 5 toad summonings each one being able to take on a wild beast? That's no joke.

Zetsu negged 4 Kages at once

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Zetsu negged 4 Kages at once

Lmao I know you seriously think Zetsu can neg 4 kages, MS Sasuke barely got through three and you know Zetsu can't even reach up to chuunin Sasuke level.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Zetsu gathers intel and he needs real S-class shinobis (akatsuki) to use that intel to their advantage against whoever opposes them. Zetsu himself is unable to do anything so that's why I said Zetsu himself is not dangerous.

without zetsu there would be no 4th great ninja war...he is highly dangerous...lmaooo I bet you think jutsu like kotoamatsukami sucks

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

without zetsu there would be no 4th great ninja war...he is highly dangerous...lmaooo I bet you think jutsu like kotoamatsukami sucks

KA is a one-shot while fatigued shinobis getting stabbed their evil doppelganger is not. Like I said, that only works with more than one people. A single person taking out zetsu would neg.

 

[AllHailLordZeustsu]

Wz army completely dominated the war until kcm naruto entered the fray. Wz can replicate other chakra and copy their ability.
BZ alone fought mizukage with groups of jounin and even kcm naruto still managed to held his own. BZspeed blitz and snatched minato bm. BZ managed to fool the kages during summit arc.

But the real reason why zetsu considered to be S class is because Kaguya needed white zetsu army to beat momoshiki. And also One shot Jj Madara

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Lmao I know you seriously think Zetsu can neg 4 kages, MS Sasuke barely got through three and you know Zetsu can't even reach up to chuunin Sasuke level.

Its not about his skill or level but his abilities that make him dangerous as other members have already pointed out. His surprise attacks can even take down Kage level opponents and his ability to gather intel undetected makes him even more dangerous.

 

[Melanin]

Being S rank is more than just being capable of gathering intel, it requires you to be well rounded. There's a jonin in the leaf that can gather intel through animals and still be able to battle like a shinobi.

He's only dangerous if he has a second person to act on that intel, how is he himself is dangerous if he can gain intel and not be able to act on it by himself.

Intel is what everything is/can be based on. You've heard the term, knowledge is power?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Intel is what everything is/can be based on. You've heard the term, knowledge is power?

Knowledge is power when you apply that knowledge you obtained. That's the point I've been making throughout this whole thread

Wz army completely dominated the war until kcm naruto entered the fray. Wz can replicate other chakra and copy their ability.
BZ alone fought mizukage with groups of jounin and even kcm naruto still managed to held his own. BZspeed blitz and snatched minato bm. BZ managed to fool the kages during summit arc.

But the real reason why zetsu considered to be S class is because Kaguya needed white zetsu army to beat momoshiki. And also One shot Jj Madara

>WZ was getting slaughtered, he just made people tired for beating him up for so long.
>Zetsu cannot copy abilities either
>Black zetsu didn't stalemate the mizukage with a bunch of jonin, all he did was hide underground and pop up the whole time. Then choujoro literally one shot him.

 

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[Melanin]

Knowledge is power when you apply that knowledge you obtained. That's the point I've been making throughout this whole thread

>WZ was getting slaughtered, he just made people tired for beating him up for so long.
>Zetsu cannot copy abilities either
>Black zetsu didn't stalemate the mizukage with a bunch of jonin, all he did was hide underground and pop up the whole time. Then choujoro literally one shot him.

Lmao Black Zetsu was able to decive the epitome of visial prowess by simply rewriting Hagoromo's Stone tablet just orchestrate generation the Uchiha and Senju clan'ss blood rivalry but more importantly he used that method/ tactic close to millenniums. Feeding someone Intel to someone just so they can do your bidding without lifting a finger is with about dangerous. Of it wasn't Naruto would've have never made it a point to seal Zetsu with kaguya. Please also keep in mind that Zetsu severely helped kaguya against Naruto and Sasuke with his w...

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Lmao Black Zetsu was able to decive the epitome of visial prowess by simply rewriting Hagoromo's Stone tablet just orchestrate generation the Uchiha and Senju clan'ss blood rivalry but more importantly he used that method/ tactic close to millenniums. Feeding someone Intel to someone just so they can do your bidding without lifting a finger is with about dangerous. Of it wasn't Naruto would've have never made it a point to seal Zetsu with kaguya. Please also keep in mind that Zetsu severely helped kaguya against Naruto and Sasuke with his w...

Now what happens if that was the hyuga instead? Will you still consider him to be dangerous? Because none of them would fall for his shenanigans.

All he did was lie to a clan with emotional problems and persuade them that bringing back Kaguya will make them attain happiness by changing hagormoo's words. That literally took centuries for it to work.

 

[Melanin]

Now what happens if that was the hyuga instead? Will you still consider him to be dangerous? Because none of them would fall for his shenanigans.

Lol you do know not even hagormoo knew BZ edited the stone tablet or his own words right? If he outwitted Hagoromo why would've he be able to out wit a normal Hyuga?

Anyway.... your theory being that the tablet can only be read by sharnigan; there is no direct parallel of the Hyuga clan having anything equivalent. Besides Zetsu didn't replace the tablet with a counterfeit he simply edited it which is something he could still do in your hypothetical; you can't counter my argument with a hypothetical I might add.

All he did was lie to a clan with emotional problems and persuade them that bringing back Kaguya will make them attain happiness by changing hagormoo's words.

Your minimizing what he did.

Black Zetsu didn't persuade anyone, He took what's equivalent to a bible (stone tablet) altered its words and single handily shaped decades of bloodshed, the manifestion of the Rinnegan, orchestrated the founding of the Akatsuki and its goal to capture the tailed beasts plus the entire Fourth Shinobi World War went all according to its design. Your out of touch fam....

That literally took centuries for it to work.

Lmao but what he did for centuries in the shadows shaped the entire history of shinobi and that was without him lifting a finger. Zetsu is very dangerous...

 

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[Rikudou Tobi]

Lol you do know not even hagormoo knew BZ edited the stone tablet or his own words right? If he outwitted Hagoromo why would've he be able to out wit a normal Hyuga?

Anyway.... your theory being that the tablet can only be read by sharnigan; there is no direct parallel of the Hyuga clan having anything equivalent. Besides Zetsu didn't replace the tablet with a counterfeit he simply edited it which is something he could still do in your hypothetical; you can't counter my argument with a hypothetical I might add.

I'm not trying to counter your argument with a hypothetical really, i'm trying to point out his limitations. Zetsu was god for manipulating one clan because he had an easy opportunity to do so. He needed the uchiha clan to follow the tablet, have emotional problems, and have the capability to free gedo all for his plan to work. Take any of those three away and Zetsu would've failed completely.
The Uchihas were set up to be manipulated as such is why the storyline flowed. So manipulating the only clan he was literally designed to manipulate isn't such a huge feat or a showing on how dangerous you are.

Orochimaru who is an S-rank and is naturally vulnerable to all types of Uchiha did a good job manipulating Sasuke to an extent while being dangerous enough to follow his leads in doing so. He did things Zetsu himself could never hope to dream of doing.

Your minimizing what he did.

Black Zetsu didn't persuade anyone, He took what's equivalent to a bible (stone tablet) altered its words and single handily shaped decades of bloodshed, the manifestion of the Rinnegan, orchestrated the founding of the Akatsuki and its goal to capture the tailed beasts plus the entire Fourth Shinobi World War went all according to its design. Your out of touch fam....

I covered most of this above but the rest he just took create for what Madara did while riding off Tobi/Obito's accomplished. If not for the fact that BZ's purpose was to manipulate the Uchihas specifically, even you would agree that his whole plan would fail.

Lmao but what he did for centuries in the shadows shaped the entire history of shinobi and that was without him lifting a finger. Zetsu is very dangerous...

He was shaped to manipulate the Uchihas, if it were anybody else you know it wouldn't work. What I find to be dangerous is in all aspects in manipulation and versatility. A dangerous person would be able to not only manipulate the Uchihas but the whole shinobi clan existence as well. Wouldn't you agree?