[Discussion] The Big Mom bet

[LBeezy]

I don't really care always bet on the loser. Just out of principal ya know? Like you bet on the sky being blue so what big deal? But if you say purple and the sky turns over the color of king solom's robes then that, that's some thing special. And who really cares if you lose? Bet an arm? I've got two. Bet your life? It's your time. But if you win it all! That's the dandy way

This guy.

I like the way this guy thinks.

:scorps:

 

[babaGAReeb]

luffy will kill big mom

nice tranny sanji avatar btw

 

[Love Cook]

luffy will kill big mom

nice tranny sanji avatar btw

Do you want to bet your avatar on that outcome ?

 

[babaGAReeb]

Do you want to bet your avatar on that outcome ?

yes

i will put on big mom ava if she is not beaten

 

[Itachi Minato]

Yup 4week sounds cool


It will count. Nobody thought Luffy had G4 in DR arc. Now if Luffy use Awakening or Conqueror Haki to ko BM then u lost the bet :Sparks:

If he had such a thing he should have used it against cracker. I'm basing my bet on Luffy having shown us what he's capable of. Doesn't matter either way actually I'm sure Oda won't do such a thing or it will make sense if he does.

 

[LBeezy]

If he had such a thing he should have used it against cracker. I'm basing my bet on Luffy having shown us what he's capable of. Doesn't matter either way actually I'm sure Oda won't do such a thing or it will make sense if he does.

By this logic why didn't Luffy use Gear Fourth on Hody?

 

[Itachi Minato]

By this logic why didn't Luffy use Gear Fourth on Hody?

He was clearly superior to Hody in gear 2 and 3. Would have been a waste of energy. Luffy has been pushed by doffy and cracker. Against doffy he couldn't even beat him in gear 4 he knows he has a time limit. He would have used his full power to end it as quickly as possible.

 

[Skull Knight]

He was clearly superior to Hody in gear 2 and 3. Would have been a waste of energy. Luffy has been pushed by doffy and cracker. Against doffy he couldn't even beat him in gear 4 he knows he has a time limit. He would have used his full power to end it as quickly as possible.

Luffy struggled when he was trying to destroy Noah and ultimately noah was stopped by sea kings.
Don't u think G4 would be a better option to destroy Noah since its destruction capabilities(kkg) is far greater than other gear attacks(elephant gun)???
And its high time oda gives us something related Conqueror haki(just my opinion).

 

[Itachi Minato]

Luffy struggled when he was trying to destroy Noah and ultimately noah was stopped by sea kings.
Don't u think G4 would be a better option to destroy Noah since its destruction capabilities(kkg) is far greater than other gear attacks(elephant gun)???
And its high time oda gives us something related Conqueror haki(just my opinion).

He was bleeding to death at that point I don't think he would have been able to go gear fourth at that point. Also, Oda isn't going to show us a new gear just to destroy a ship. I wouldn't mind if Luffy beats BM as long as it makes sense. Right now I don't think it would. That's why I'm predicting he won't beat her. If he does do something with conquerors haki it's still fine as long as it makes sense. Basically I don't want an asspull

 

[chopstickchakra]

Luffy wasn't allowed to use G4 from a story standpoint at FMI that's why he didn't use it. We as readers weren't allowed to know about G4 back then. Luffy definitely had it available though.

 

[Tomato God]

He could beat her with seastone. Probably. Like get a thing that has a tip of seastone

 

[David1996]

Now that Capone is in, how are we doing this ?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Now that Capone is in, how are we doing this ?

We just gonna ignore the black market heavyweights and the rest of her forces that Jimbei mentioned?

 

[chopstickchakra]

Now that Capone is in, how are we doing this ?

Capone was always involved. I still say the wedding guests should count too since they were destined to come there since the start of this ordeal.

 

[Capn]

Now that Capone is in, how are we doing this ?

Nothing changes. As previously mentioned, Luffy can make use of anything or anyone that is already present on WCI. Bege fits that bill.

 

[Love Cook]

Now that Capone is in, how are we doing this ?

Everyone ON the island was in. So Capone is no problem

Capone was always involved. I still say the wedding guests should count too since they were destined to come there since the start of this ordeal.

Wedding guests are not on the island, they are out.

The bet is to make a calculated guess if Big Mom can survive Luffy's attack with the resources that the has to his disposal. You can't take in consideration that suddenly someone strong sails along and plays a big part, even if they were destined to come, you have no idea who is coming and how many and who they are allied to.

That would just be gambling at that point. Because there would be no rhyme or reason behind your argument to pick one side over the other.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Everyone ON the island was in. So Capone is no problem



Wedding guests are not on the island, they are out.

The bet is to make a calculated guess if Big Mom can survive Luffy's attack with the resources that the has to his disposal. You can't take in consideration that suddenly someone strong sails along and plays a big part, even if they were destined to come, you have no idea who is coming and how many and who they are allied to.

That would just be gambling at that point. Because there would be no rhyme or reason behind your argument to pick one side over the other.

I'm not arguing what is in the bet, I'm saying I feel it should have been included in the bet, I was originally gonna leave Capone out since he had his own motives but I'm glad you left him in. The original point after all was BM would fall this arc and Luffy would be involved. You added the restraint about only using the people on the island at the time of the bet starting. Also we don't know if some of the wedding guests aren't already on the island just because we haven't seen them, we'll need to wait until the day of to see where they all arrive from, some may already be there as guests of BM for all we know.

 

[Love Cook]

I'm not arguing what is in the bet, I'm saying I feel it should have been included in the bet, I was originally gonna leave Capone out since he had his own motives but I'm glad you left him in. The original point after all was BM would fall this arc and Luffy would be involved. You added the restraint about only using the people on the island at the time of the bet starting. Also we don't know if some of the wedding guests aren't already on the island just because we haven't seen them, we'll need to wait until the day of to see where they all arrive from, some may already be there as guests of BM for all we know.

If there will be someone who will make a difference during the conclusion he will have some form of introduction. He will be walking out of his bedroom or stepping of his ship. No one will appear out of thin air.

Also it was included in the bet, by saying that outsiders are not included. If that would've changed your view on who would win, you should've picked the other option back then. There is no turning it back now. Everybody entered this bet with the same information.

Also I feel like this chapter is a good point to close the bet, because from now on we're moving towards the end.


------BET CLOSED-----

 

[Capn]

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[LBeezy]

Love Cook, I'm pretty sure you realize that you and I technically have a different bet than what is in this thread..

Honestly speaking, (and I'm just being 100% fair) if Big Mom does in fact get defeated this arc, but Luffy DOESN'T kick her ass in anyway, like he literally doesn't do shit to her and other characters bring her down completely, then that means I still lose our bet. lol

Although you and I did start this whole bet thing, you and I actually have a different bet than what this actual thread is about.. lol