Next gen wouldn't survive Warring states Era ever

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Facing death and living through a warring era doesn't necessarily make you stronger.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

I guess...isn't comparing these two a bit stupid though?

For me, it's pretty much the same as saying no one here as a twelve year old during the eighteen hundreds because back then kids used to work on factories.

They're completely different situations. The new gen's kids were not brought up to fight in constant war, or even prepared heavily in case one broke out, they're just there to be decent Shinobi.

Actually, I didn't even mean to compare power, but how the mentality is deteriorating.

There is the book "The Time Machine", when one man traveled to the future where evolution took humanity to child like situations due not facing adversity.

Then I just said how stupid, not just the characters, but the plot they are involved shows how spoiled they are.

It feels even disrespectful not just for former generations in the manga, but for ours too.

 

[Melanin]

I don't mean to offend, but I want you to understand:

Let's consider Sarada has all of her parents' arsenal. Not even with that she would be able to survive, because the maturity also counts. She goes rampage when she discovered that mom could possibly not be biological. She activated sharingan just because father was just around the corner.

Madara witnessed at least 2 brother's death and still didn't activated his Sharingan. See. This is what I'm talking about. One unruled and hasty individual wouldn't survive. That happened with Itama, the little brother of the God of Shinobi, that also probably trained with him.

I don't see feats of the others that could possibly show survival power, except Mitsuki.

If anything Sarada would've awakened much more of her potential in a war-like hostile environment. Seeing her peers, villagers or anyone else subject being killed is more then enough to trigger a powerful emotional condition or state.

 

[lndra]

Ninjas are more like police officers than soldiers of wars now.

 

[Sagebee]

With that spoiled attitude, they wouldn't even stand their ground. They don't even have the maturity to understand why their fathers are away on work :|

Madara had to face the loss of at least 3 brothers. Not mention how stressed they must have been, facing death every single day.

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Hashirama had to come up with ideals on his own.

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They all had to find maturity to face the real harsh reality. Tobirama, Hashirama, Madara and Izuna, even the poor Kawarama and Itama.

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Even Mito sacrificed herself for greater good.

Tell me when would Boruto and his crew understand all of this. As fas as I'm concerned his most awesome development was when he wanted his clothes untidy... Don't even get me started on the others.

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Ew.

BONUS!!! WHAT OBITO SHOULD'VE DONE WITH MADARA:

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Well the new generation already facing okutsuki so I guess that qualifies them as better

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

If anything Sarada would've awakened much more of her potential in a war-like hostile environment. Seeing her peers, villagers or anyone else subject being killed is more then enough to trigger a powerful emotional condition or state.

Look, she IS very sensitive. But in times of war that doesn't help at all. Just think about the movie of the soldier Ryan or the Patriot. Everyone who went out screaming or overreacting GOT KILLED off.
And btw I think that the kind of "sensitiveness" Tobirama was talking about wasn't about going out screaming that dad isn't home. It's about being mature enough to recognize how bad and traumatic a situation is and wanting the power to change it.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Well the new generation already facing okutsuki so I guess that qualifies them as better

You mean Sasuke and Naruto are facing them right? And still, they faced almost death y'know :elmo:.

 

[Sagebee]

You mean Sasuke and Naruto are facing them right? And still, they faced almost death y'know :elmo:.

True but the stakes in the new gen are higher and it's not there fault they're born into a peaceful generation but that will change quick

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

I don't know about that since apparently those in the warring states era were not really trained to fight, while the next gen is. Of course many people would die, but some would live and fight on. Furthermore the kids of the warring state era were thrown into war, and many died (hashirama and madara lost majority of their siblings), so not everyone was battle ready even. You mentioned that they all had to find maturity to face the real harsh reality, however how can we compare the next gen who were not in a war zone to those in the era of warring states who were in a war zone? Many people from the next gen would die probably, but a lot of them would find maturity to face the real harsh reality or simply die like those of the era of warring states. I would suggest that more kids from the next gen would survive than those from the era of warring states, because they had ninja training.

Actually they trained harder. And overcame greater obstacles.

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[Melanin]

Some yes, others no. Shikamaru and Sasuke are good candidates to survive. They have the guts,power and furtiviness.
Considering that saying your surname was automatic death, Naruto Uzumaki would go away faster than light. Loud shinobi like Sakura and Tsunade wouldn't even get to breath.

Are you serious? Lol Sakura + Tsunade would dominate with their healing/support abilities, the fact that they both individually can heal thousands of people at once makes them important commodities to whose ever side their on. Skills like theirs can determine battle outcomes...

Look, she IS very sensitive. But in times of war that doesn't help at all. Just think about the movie of the soldier Ryan or the Patriot. Everyone who went out screaming or overreacting GOT KILLED off.
And btw I think that the kind of "sensitiveness" Tobirama was talking about wasn't about going out screaming that dad isn't home. It's about being mature enough to recognize how bad and traumatic a situation is and wanting the power to change it.

You shouldn't base my opionon on the semantics of Gaiden, Sarada was sensitive when it came to her paternity becuase she's human and in was in a circumstance that frustrated her. She didn't scream about Sasukes absence or even immaturely express how she felt about Sasuke being gone. She was instead the direct opposite (mature) by seeking answers for herself but I get what your saying....

 

[V h o]

Actually they trained harder. And overcame greater obstacles.

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That's only like 2-4 if you include the brothers,majority of the others weren't shown to be training like that. Madara and hashirama as kids were stronger than the adults, they are not the norms, but extremely gifted rare cases.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Are you serious? Lol Sakura + Tsunade would dominate with their healing/support abilities, the fact that they both individually can heal thousands of people at once makes them important commodities to whose ever side their on. Skills like their can determine battle outcomes...

I was serious when I said that loud shinobi easily get killed. Yes, their healing abilities would help. But they needed to be at least on Hashirama's level. Tsunade admitted she wasn't on par with him.

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I really wanted girls to be on their level, but sadly they aren't.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Are you serious? Lol Sakura + Tsunade would dominate with their healing/support abilities, the fact that they both individually can heal thousands of people at once makes them important commodities to whose ever side their on. Skills like theirs can determine battle outcomes...



You shouldn't base my opionon on the semantics of Gaiden, Sarada was sensitive when it came to her paternity becuase she's human and in was in a circumstance that frustrated her. She didn't scream about Sasukes absence or even immaturely express how she felt about Sasuke being gone. She was instead the direct opposite (mature) by seeking answers for herself but I get what your saying....

Hashirama is also human, and he went away to cry in the river, for later have strength to continue to fight on. He didn't go rabid to kill off the Uchiha Clan or blame someone. Frustration can be handled in a lot of ways, and in war time is crucial to know how. Madara went just as far to advise someone with the same age with a "solution" for it. And btw, admit their suffering is far more greater.

 

[Melanin]

I was serious when I said that loud shinobi easily get killed. Yes, their healing abilities would help. But they needed to be at least on Hashirama's level. Tsunade admitted she wasn't on par with him.

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I really wanted girls to be on their level, but sadly they aren't.

Your not understanding what I'm saying; I'm elaborating on their healing, medical and support abilities. Again Tsunade & Sakura can heal thousands of people at once and across far distances, that ability alone heightens the success of whose side their on. Tsunade and Sakura are unparelled when it comes to being medical ninjas in battles simply becuase of what I previously described. I don't remember Hashirama being housed for his support abilities becuase he has zero feats of exercising medical ninjutsu.



Now as far as the healing abilities go...

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Madara compared this (Strength of a Hundred Technique).

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To This (Hashirama's Healing Power's).

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Not this (Creation Rebirth).

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Databook.

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Translation.

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Genesis* Rebirth (創造再生, Souzou Saisei)
Ninjutsu, S-rank, Supplementary
User: Tsunade

The absolute pinnacle of medical ninjutsu~~ a "forbidden regeneration technique"!

Created by the greatest of medical ninja, Tsunade, this is the ultimate regeneration technique!! By releasing a large amount of chakra at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated, reconstruction all organs and all tissues making up the human body!
If this technique is used, a body whose vital organs are so gravely injuried that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state. It's impossible to die by any means... for the sake of continuing to protect the lives of one's comrades. That's the resolution hidden in this technique.

[picture of Tsunade releasing her Yin Seal** and performing this technique]
↑By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead, Tsunade can make her body do the work of an untold number of years in an instant.

This wound may have brought her on the verge of death, but she won't die~~

[picture of the wound on Tsunade's shoulder healing]
↑↓The acceleration of cell division that allows for the complete recovery from wounds is paid for with the shortening of one's life span.
[picture of the wound on Tsunade's chest healing]

*Souzou means "creation". Especially a deity's creation of the world and everything in it. It isn't specifically the Christian Genesis, though. It can be applied to any religion. For example, the creation of Japan by the gods Izanagi and Izanami in Shinto is also called "souzou". I simply chose to use the word "Genesis" because I like the sound of it.
**Yin Seal (陰封印, In Fuuin). The diamond-shaped seal on Tsunade's forehead.

Creation Rebirth, is what puts Tsunade above her grandfather when it comes to Self-Healing. ​

Tsunade was being modest..

Hashirama is also human, and he went away to cry in the river, for later have strength to continue to fight on. He didn't go rabid to kill off the Uchiha Clan or blame someone. Frustration can be handled in a lot of ways, and in war time is crucial to know how. Madara went just as far to advise someone with the same age with a "solution" for it. And btw, admit their suffering is far more greater.

Sarada handled her frustration the right way lol, by independently braking off and seeking answers for herself. Sarada even preformed well (in battle I might add) with that frustration built up inside her, I don't see why your connotating Sarada's demeanor as a crying toddler when it's the complete opposite.

 

[lndra]

TBH Rasta I don't think it has much to do with frustration or any of that. Like I'll put it into perspective.

When Boruto found out his dad died, he didn't go off and throw a tamper tantrum or went to cry about it. He went to the Hokage Office to reflect on what he did for his father, the things he did, and to reminiscence. Of course later Sasuke told him, and they went to retrieve him.

But I wouldn't necessarily use this argument as a way to show that Boruto would survive in the warring states because of this reason (or his talent). Because quite frankly they haven't shown that much maturity yet.

I mean Sarada thought her mom wasn't her mom, and her dad was such an ass... She was going to leave the Village. While Sarada's mature, more mature than Boruto, her mindset is still rocky.

Now imagine if either of them were surrounded by their friends, family, or loved one's ... And they were murdered in cold blood. I'd dare say that they would probably freeze up or faint in that heat of action, in contrast to shinobi in Madara/Hashirama's time being able to move in that of scenario.

Even Naruto/Sasuke were respectfully afraid in certain situations in the Manga (one dealing with a shinobi threat from Kirigakure, and another one dealing with Zabuza) -- Yet this isn't as bad as it gets.

I think our kids have A LONG way to go before they become 'that mature'. Hopefully that makes sense.

 

[Slaughter Gang]

Soft ass generation. I can see a couple surviving like that Iron Sand jit, Shikadai, Mitsuki.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Facing death and living through a warring era doesn't necessarily make you stronger.

yes it does if you can handle it. if not you will have big problems.

 

[UnknownJin]

fail thread

 

[UnknownJin]

It's true. Most of the next generation are too childish.

They have not really gone through anything serious. Even look at the Chunin Exams of this era to Naruto's era.

People making up excuses about fighting Shin clones or having Sage Mode literally means nothing. Boruto fought a God, whom Sarada wet her pants under.

That already discredits what-ever bull-shit you were saying about them being vastly mature in the battlefield. Clear cut, they are children who haven't seen death, horror, or war.

But I do feel like they'll grow up in the future when the Village gets attacked.

Times are , not the people.