Why Tobirama never regretted????

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Hashirama regretted not seeing the darkness within the village.

Madara regretted not leaving things to next generation.


But I wonder how IN THE WORLD COULD TOBIRAMA NOT POSSIBLY REGRET ANYTHING?

He:

-Destroyed the opportunity for Madara being Hokage
-Put the Uchiha to be Police Force thus to the limits of the village
-NEVER tried to apoligize for his prejudice
-Said in Sasuke's face (the boy who could turn into new Madara) how much he despised the Uchiha Clan
-Created Edo tensei (I do wonder what kind of morals he has)
-And a lot of other problems that came after that

And then he goes out super happy like nothing happened....

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I do wonder what kind of "hero" is this one.
 

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To some extent, he was right. Madara as a Hokage is a terrible idea. PUshing the Uchiha to the side, while not ideal, was still fairly effective.

Still, maybe he should've regretted, but I do feel like him doing so at this point would be a bit needless.
 

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To some extent, he was right. Madara as a Hokage is a terrible idea. PUshing the Uchiha to the side, while not ideal, was still fairly effective.

Still, maybe he should've regretted, but I do feel like him doing so at this point would be a bit needless.
Yes, just as needless as Edotensei and its sacrifices:elmo:
 

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At Least he had some sort of compassion for the Uchihas', unlike Danzo who was the direct reason for their extermination.
I agree with you that Danzou was straight up to kill them, more than even Tobirama. Although I don't see the feeling of compassion for the Uchiha in any action of him.
Could you please specify?
 

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I agree with you that Danzou was straight up to kill them, more than even Tobirama. Although I don't see the feeling of compassion for the Uchiha in any action of him.
Could you please specify?
He kept them alive, gave them a place to exist and made them the police force of konoha which he thought they were qualified for, though turned out to the wrong decision. But even then, he had an Uchiha subordinate under his team so he ain't that bad of a guy.
 

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He kept them alive, gave them a place to exist and made them the police force of konoha which he thought they were qualified for, though turned out to the wrong decision. But even then, he had an Uchiha subordinate under his team so he ain't that bad of a guy.
Then, in your opinion, why he kept persecuting them behind the scenes?

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Then, in your opinion, why he kept persecuting them behind the scenes?

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In order to prevent another Madara from popping up. Tobirama was a **** i agree but the Uchihas were very sensitive with Itachi as an exception. It was an eventuality with the corrupt government that they had. Danzo would have exterminated them even if Tobirama hadn't done those things because Danzo was a overprecision ******* who knew no limits.
 

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That's what I've been saying. Because of Tobirama and Danzo, they ruined the chance for peace. But nope.

Anyway, the haters are just going to blindly hate as always.

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This has been on my mind for at least two weeks. Hashirama was a great Hokage, but he was too soft-hearted to deal with the complications of his vision for a peaceful world. Analyzing the story on Konoha's founding and what resulted of some of the dumbest decisions that turned the world into a hell hole, there is one major factor that started it all and that is Tobirama.

To start things off, I believe Tobirama was an excellent Hokage. He didn't take crap from anyone nor the villages, who were trying to muscle him and his brother for the Bijuu. He created the Ninja Rankings, the Chuunin Exams, the Shinobi schooling system. He's a genius. However, there's one problem....

HE RUINED HASHIRAMA'S ALLIANCE WITH THE UCHIHA, BECAUSE OF HIS PARANOIA AND PREJUDICE!

Tobirama stripped the Uchiha of their government rights, kicked them to the outskirts of the village, placed heavy surveillance on them, and treated them as expendables. He only made them Police to spy on them and even built their station inside the prison.

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Tobirama ruined everything. the Uchiha wanted peace, but because of his paranoia, everything was ruined and resulted in a bloody massacre.

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Madara was right, but Hashirama ignored his warning.

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And because of Hashirama's dumb decision for not killing his brother, and with Tobirama committing injustices towards the Uchiha, this gave birth to Tobirama 2.0 aka Danzo, who desired the Sharingan to the point, he wanted all the little children and babies of the Uchiha Clan to be killed in their cribs:

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Danzo took Tobirama's racism toward the Uchiha to a whole new extreme and was even responsible for several villains such as Kabuto. In the end, if Hashirama took care of his brother, made sure that the alliance between the Senju and Uchiha stayed strong, kept the Bijuu in Konoha, and made peace with Madara before he left, none of the bad shit that happened in the series had happened.

With the Uchiha and Senju standing strong together, Konoha would've been unstoppable.

 

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...what does Edo Tensei have to do with this again?
You said it was needless for Tobirama to apologize. What I found intriguing considering how much he made Madara's and a lot of people realities like hell. Including the Edo Tensei persons. It was all mostly because of him. You can't deny it.
 

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In order to prevent another Madara from popping up. Tobirama was a **** i agree but the Uchihas were very sensitive with Itachi as an exception. It was an eventuality with the corrupt government that they had. Danzo would have exterminated them even if Tobirama hadn't done those things because Danzo was a overprecision ******* who knew no limits.
I do wonder why this line is so used: ''The Uchiha clan is very sensitive". And so what? The only time when the Uchiha planned a coup d'etat was when they were already pushed to the sidelines for something they didn't do. Why Itachi is so idolized for killing his own family? You all are missing one important thing: if you were in his place, most people would chose to protect family, regardless of ideals and etc.

I really want to see how the village helped Itachi protecting Sasuke. Actually They all turned to kill Sasuke off, when Itachi went away.

It's just like this patriot movie scene. They killed his son. Did you expect him to be loyal to the king? I don't think so.

[video=youtube;F-BQi0JjY2w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-BQi0JjY2w[/video]
 
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