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Lmaoo if it being on a panel is showing then the manga have shown him being that powerful in the panel provided in the first page. Smfh
In the flashback we see Madara being the first to awakening Mangekyo also itachi explaining that him and Izuna were the first. In the one you're talking about is just Ebisu saying that he's the most powerful, we don't see him doing anything to be the most powerful of all the hokages. We don't see him using all the leaf's hiden techniques, and we don't see him using any jutsu to level a village.

So why you shaking your head right now? You're still wrong. :lmao:
 

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In the flashback we see Madara being the first to awakening Mangekyo also itachi explaining that him and Izuna were the first. In the one you're talking about is just Ebisu saying that he's the most powerful, we don't see him doing anything to be the most powerful of all the hokages. We don't see him using all the leaf's hiden techniques, and we don't see him using any jutsu to level a village.

So why you shaking your head right now? You're still wrong. :lmao:
how do you "see" the condition of being the most powerful, explan please.
 

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Hiruzen is a pacifist that is why he does not want to conquer everything.

As for all his jutsu he only needs 1 which was Neutralizer. It was strong enough to stop Orochimaru from finishing edo tensei Resurrection of Bijuu mode Minato. Powerful feat in itself. Lets not forget the fate of the shinobi world rested in the hands of the third hokage as he single-handedly defended the shinobi alliance.


In theory, Hiruzen can...

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Translation: Hiruzen earned the title of professor for being a researcher. He was trained by both Hashirama and Tobirama, as the man that would succeed them. At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama in the Nature Elements. All five nature alterations, Ability in all Hiden (clan techniques), Genjutsu, Ability in all Ninjutsu existing in Konoha which explains his reputation as the professor. His title of Professor is no joke, hence the essence of Hiruzen is his talent with ninjutsu. Everyone in the village is his family member
5 Elements - Not even his full power???
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Since Hiruzen was revived at old age, his chakra and power should be as low as before but wait... Tobirama states that the Hokage have been revived "close to original power" this means Hiruzen was revived weaker then he was alive at old age yet he was able to produce the 5 Elements at such mastery that it was even capable of stalemating the Buddha Statue while the 5 Kage couldn't. Just imagine his Prime.
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Hiruzen knows and could perform all non KKG Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals =

Broken Ninjutsu versatility

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Hidden Leaf Tech

Neutalizer technique, Bringer of Darkness, Great Clone Explosion and all 8 Gates at will.
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough


Hiruzen (Sarutobi Clan)
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique


Izunaka Clan
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang

Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap

Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique

Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy

Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades

Uzumaki Clan

Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Five Elements Unseal
OP Summoning Monkey King Enma

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The Third hokage's comrade in arms, the monkey king enma's transformation jutsu Characterized by the hardness of diamond and its at-will extensibility, Kongou Nyoi-Bou is Sandaime's"weapon of choice", so to speak and with it in hand he's made it through a world of war for an extended period of time.

Also, when Enma is transformed into Diamond Shifting Staff, it is also possible that he can attack out of his own free will, his claws and fangs add an element of surprise and irregularity. Forged in the fire of battle, its at-will transformation-based attack and defense go beyond the scope of proficiency, to attain the realm of Shinobi "godhood".

-The main method of attack consists in strikes and thrusts that take advantage of its extensibility. The hardness of diamond translates into destructive power.

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自在に変幻する堅固なる獄!!
A solid prison that changes shape at will!!


After transforming himself into an adamantium staff, Enma clones himself in staff form then boxes the enemy into a lattice.

The prison wall with the toughness of adamantium cannot possibly be broken, and the captured enemy is left with nothing but the humility of defeat.


Durability Feats - Super Kage Bunshin???
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Hiruzen has shown to have excellent durability feats at age 69 with his Kage Bunshin as one of his clones was stabbed by Hashirama with 4 Kunai in the chest yet did not disperse until Hiruzen was done with it. He was also able to hold Orochimaru's soul for an hour long despite being stabbed through the chest by the Sword of Kusangi.
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Dangerous CQC
Even past his Prime, Hiruzen had showed excellent Close Quarter Combat skills. Moments after sealing parts of his soul away to seal the Edo Hokage and exhausting his remaining Chakra on Kage Bunshin, he was still able to easily disarm Orochimaru from his Sword of Kusangi with great ease and catch him to prepare his sealing Jutsu. He was also able to easily break through the Shinju branches and save Naruto despite Tobirama and Minato unable to get through.
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Further Hype and Testimonials

Orochimaru admitting that he would be killed by a 59 year old Hiruzen.
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Danzo in his dying moments admitting inferiority despite possessing Izanagi, Kotoamatsukami and Hashirama's DNA.
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Kabuto, a spy who has spied on and knows all about the Shinobi countries states that an old Hiruzen was stronger then all the 5 Kage at the time. Just imagine his Prime.
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Even with the entire SA and 5 Kage, Shikamaru states that only Hiruzen could contend with Guruguru at the time.
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Considers himself to be the strongest in his group which also included Tobirama. Confident enough to take on the entire Kinkaku and survive.
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Extra Databook Hype

"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.

DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84

Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure
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how do you "see" the condition of being the most powerful, explan please.
1. By beating the most powerful one there is. Just look at Naruto/Sasuke
2. By showing feats that surpass village/country and 10 mountain busting range.
3. Lose to no one

How else did people conclude which character is stronger than the other? By Hype? I think not.
 

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1. By beating the most powerful one there is. Just look at Naruto/Sasuke
2. By showing feats that surpass village/country and 10 mountain busting range.
3. Lose to no one

How else did people conclude which character is stronger than the other? By Hype? I think not.
-Lml, there was no one more powerful than him during his prime life span
-That is not necessary. Don't make it seem like DC is the only relevant thing especially when the fight is so versatile. Nonetheless, his scale is large as he knows every justu in konoha
-The strongest beings have lost in multiple instances, this is not an indicator.

feats but there is no need to when the author have given you a direct statement
 

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-Lml, there was no one more powerful than him during his prime life span
Baseless claim has not been shown

-That is not necessary. Don't make it seem like DC is the only relevant thing especially when the fight is so versatile. Nonetheless, his scale is large as he knows every justu in konoha
Another baseless claim has not been shown
-The strongest beings have lost in multiple instances, this is not an indicator.
I've never seen Hagormoo lost.
Rinnegan Sasuke and RSM Naruto never lost, they tied when they fought each other.
Hamura never lost.
feats but there is no need to when the author have given you a direct statement
So all you can depend on his hype and no feats? So does the other saying Hagormoo flying to the sky creating chibaku tensei by himself hype so true that it overcame the feat of it actually being Hamura and Hagormoo?

Or how about the Hype that Susanoo can destroy everything in the universe? So this hype of Hiruzen being the strongest makes him greater than Hashirama better yet Naruto?
 

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Believe in the Hype!
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Fourth Databook proof!!!

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Translation: Hiruzen earned the title of professor for being a researcher. He was trained by both Hashirama and Tobirama, as the man that would succeed them. At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama in the Nature Elements. All five nature alterations, Ability in all Hiden (clan techniques), Genjutsu, Ability in all Ninjutsu existing in Konoha which explains his reputation as the professor. His title of Professor is no joke, hence the essence of Hiruzen is his talent with ninjutsu. Everyone in the village is his family member
5 Elements - Not even his full power???
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Since Hiruzen was revived at old age, his chakra and power should be as low as before but wait... Tobirama states that the Hokage have been revived "close to original power" this means Hiruzen was revived weaker then he was alive at old age yet he was able to produce the 5 Elements at such mastery that it was even capable of stalemating the Buddha Statue while the 5 Kage couldn't. Just imagine his Prime.
You must be registered for see images


Hiruzen knows and could perform all non KKG Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals =

Broken Ninjutsu versatility

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Hidden Leaf Tech

Neutalizer technique, Bringer of Darkness, Great Clone Explosion and all 8 Gates at will.
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough


Hiruzen (Sarutobi Clan)
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique


Izunaka Clan
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang

Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap

Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique

Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy

Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades

Uzumaki Clan

Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Five Elements Unseal
OP Summoning Monkey King Enma

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The Third hokage's comrade in arms, the monkey king enma's transformation jutsu Characterized by the hardness of diamond and its at-will extensibility, Kongou Nyoi-Bou is Sandaime's"weapon of choice", so to speak and with it in hand he's made it through a world of war for an extended period of time.

Also, when Enma is transformed into Diamond Shifting Staff, it is also possible that he can attack out of his own free will, his claws and fangs add an element of surprise and irregularity. Forged in the fire of battle, its at-will transformation-based attack and defense go beyond the scope of proficiency, to attain the realm of Shinobi "godhood".

-The main method of attack consists in strikes and thrusts that take advantage of its extensibility. The hardness of diamond translates into destructive power.

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Heading:
自在に変幻する堅固なる獄!!
A solid prison that changes shape at will!!


After transforming himself into an adamantium staff, Enma clones himself in staff form then boxes the enemy into a lattice.

The prison wall with the toughness of adamantium cannot possibly be broken, and the captured enemy is left with nothing but the humility of defeat.


Durability Feats - Super Kage Bunshin???
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Hiruzen has shown to have excellent durability feats at age 69 with his Kage Bunshin as one of his clones was stabbed by Hashirama with 4 Kunai in the chest yet did not disperse until Hiruzen was done with it. He was also able to hold Orochimaru's soul for an hour long despite being stabbed through the chest by the Sword of Kusangi.
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Dangerous CQC
Even past his Prime, Hiruzen had showed excellent Close Quarter Combat skills. Moments after sealing parts of his soul away to seal the Edo Hokage and exhausting his remaining Chakra on Kage Bunshin, he was still able to easily disarm Orochimaru from his Sword of Kusangi with great ease and catch him to prepare his sealing Jutsu. He was also able to easily break through the Shinju branches and save Naruto despite Tobirama and Minato unable to get through.
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Further Hype and Testimonials

Orochimaru admitting that he would be killed by a 59 year old Hiruzen.
You must be registered for see images

Danzo in his dying moments admitting inferiority despite possessing Izanagi, Kotoamatsukami and Hashirama's DNA.
You must be registered for see images

Kabuto, a spy who has spied on and knows all about the Shinobi countries states that an old Hiruzen was stronger then all the 5 Kage at the time. Just imagine his Prime.
You must be registered for see images

Even with the entire SA and 5 Kage, Shikamaru states that only Hiruzen could contend with Guruguru at the time.
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Considers himself to be the strongest in his group which also included Tobirama. Confident enough to take on the entire Kinkaku and survive.
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Extra Databook Hype

"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.

DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84

Konohamaru paragraph:

Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure
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Baseless claim has not been shown


Another baseless claim has not been shown

I've never seen Hagormoo lost.
Rinnegan Sasuke and RSM Naruto never lost, they tied when they fought each other.
Hamura never lost.

So all you can depend on his hype and no feats? So does the other saying Hagormoo flying to the sky creating chibaku tensei by himself hype so true that it overcame the feat of it actually being Hamura and Hagormoo?

Or how about the Hype that Susanoo can destroy everything in the universe? So this hype of Hiruzen being the strongest makes him greater than Hashirama better yet Naruto?
No need to show something that has been stated

Wtf are you talking about? DC was never a mandatory for being powerful

Lmao none of those are the strongest, Kaguya is and she lost. This is irrelevant

Yes it overcomes thay and sousano destroying everything was not stated in the manga, and if it was then it yes it can destroy everything

Hiruzen js stronger than both
 

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No need to show something that has been stated
Yes you do

Wtf are you talking about? DC was never a mandatory for being powerful
Wtf, yes you do

Lmao none of those are the strongest, Kaguya is and she lost. This is irrelevant
They were the strongest of their time. Kaguya being sealed is fo plot reasons

Yes it overcomes thay and sousano destroying everything was not stated in the manga, and if it was then it yes it can destroy everything
And yet it failed to destroy shinsu senju or even a biju so you're wrong again

Hiruzen js stronger than both
You're either trolling or retarded to think Hiruzen can beat Hashirama or even Naruto.
 
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Yes you do


Wtf, yes you do


They were the strongest of their time. Kaguya being sealed is fo plot reasons


And yet it failed to destroy shinsu senju or even a biju so you're wrong again


You're either trolling or retarded to think Hiruzen can beat Hashirama or even Naruto.
No you dont, statements are aa much of an illustration of fact as pictures

No you, abilities dont have to destroy to be effective or damaging.

Lmao what is your point? Kaguya was still alive

Never specified which perfect sousano, sasukes could for example. The statement speaks of potential

Yes he is stronger,
 
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