Did nothing really exist?

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[COLOR="FF000"]Took my fascination about nothing and you made a mess of them [/COLOR]
 

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I believe why is there something rather than nothing is a more intriguing question because I wonder what was going on before the big bang
 

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I doubt it, the consensus of the majority of cosmologists is barely over the standard big bang model, what happened before the big bang, if something really happened, is largely debated.

For example, some believe the universe to be a tiny part of a bigger reality called multiverse. Alan Guth, Arvin Borde and Alexander Vilenkin, who produced a theorem which shows that the beginning of the universe at a finite time ago is largely more probable than not, are proponents of this theory.

Then you have others like Sean Carroll, who formulated a model in which there is a mirror universe in which time goes backwards.

Of course there are a bunch of arguments to support and to refute these and other theories, but they go far beyond my understanding

Well like I said, no one knows for certain and there are multiple theories. But one consensus among the majority of the theories is that there was no such thing as "nothing."
 

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Aren't matter and energy the same thing tho?

Honestly, I don't know. I've read that both are considered the same and others say they are completely different. I think it depends on the what type of definition they use to describe it. For example; we know very little about Dark Energy, but it's not really considered matter.

I don't think you can properly explain the Big Bang or what came before without having to get technical with it.
 

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Well like I said, no one knows for certain and there are multiple theories. But one consensus among the majority of the theories is that there was no such thing as "nothing."

Yeah, can't really disagree with that. Actually, given what the word "nothing" really entails, I really wonder if it could even be discoverable
 

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Yeah, can't really disagree with that. Actually, given what the word "nothing" really entails, I really wonder if it could even be discoverable

I think it's something that will remain a concept. I don't think it's possible for there to just be a pocket of nothingness for us to discover, because that would still entail space and time. Nothing is just nothing.
 

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Yeah, can't really disagree with that. Actually, given what the word "nothing" really entails, I really wonder if it could even be discoverable

[COLOR="FF000"]lmao I cracked up on "could it be discoverable". That's good! I see what you did there :lmao:

On serious note: "discovering nothing is purely illogical". It's like "holding darkness literally", nothing = absence of anything meaning you can either prove it exist or disprove but cannot [discover] [/COLOR]
 

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I mean did the absolute nothigness really exist or is just abstract concept? The question "Why there is something rather than nothing?" Can be rephrased like that "Why there is not nothing rather than something?
I mean always is need to be something in the first place.
:)....
 

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I feel like I am in a class right now.....:|
 

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Consciousness. Technically consciousness is "nothing" but "practically", consciousness is everything. So consciousness is your answer (I believe).
 
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The question is..where did all of this come from. I'd prefer if a God made it all but then we'd have to wonder where he/she came from
 
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