Did nothing really exist?

[Our Lord Sasuke]

I mean did the absolute nothigness really exist or is just abstract concept? The question "Why there is something rather than nothing?" Can be rephrased like that "Why there is not nothing rather than something?
I mean always is need to be something in the first place.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Not nothing rather than something?

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Something rather than something.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

There's no such thing as 'nothing' as far as physics is concerned.​

 

[Marin]

Yooo hashi!

 

[Aominecchi]

There's no such thing as 'nothing' as far as physics is concerned.​

I have to agree with this ^

 

[FreakensteinAG]

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Everything that we can perceive as 'normal' matter is included in the 4.6%: Planets, Stars, Asteroids, organisms. The rest is Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Dark Matter is a strange substance (I don't understand jack about it) that we currently can only perceive among regular matter. "If I held dark matter in my hand, it would ooze through my hand and go through the floor and out of the Earth" -- Dr. Michio Kaku. Dark Energy is the vacuum of the universe and it has its own properties.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

If I held dark matter in my hand, it would ooze through my hand and go through the floor and out of the Earth"

That's lean bro

 

[Yasopp]

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Everything that we can perceive as 'normal' matter is included in the 4.6%: Planets, Stars, Asteroids, organisms. The rest is Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Dark Matter is a strange substance (I don't understand jack about it) that we currently can only perceive among regular matter. "If I held dark matter in my hand, it would ooze through my hand and go through the floor and out of the Earth" -- Dr. Michio Kaku. Dark Energy is the vacuum of the universe and it has its own properties.

well shit

 

[MomoSaka]

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Everything that we can perceive as 'normal' matter is included in the 4.6%: Planets, Stars, Asteroids, organisms. The rest is Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Dark Matter is a strange substance (I don't understand jack about it) that we currently can only perceive among regular matter. "If I held dark matter in my hand, it would ooze through my hand and go through the floor and out of the Earth" -- Dr. Michio Kaku. Dark Energy is the vacuum of the universe and it has its own properties.

Hmmmmmmm.........interesting.......

 

[Lightbringer]

From my understanding, energy and sub atomic particles have always existed, even before the big bang.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

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Everything that we can perceive as 'normal' matter is included in the 4.6%: Planets, Stars, Asteroids, organisms. The rest is Dark Matter and Dark Energy. Dark Matter is a strange substance (I don't understand jack about it) that we currently can only perceive among regular matter. "If I held dark matter in my hand, it would ooze through my hand and go through the floor and out of the Earth" -- Dr. Michio Kaku. Dark Energy is the vacuum of the universe and it has its own properties.

Is space and time things in and of themselves or are they just a way to describe lack of matter, and put events in order?

 

[Deadlift]

This question is formulated like shit, no wonder everyone of us is giving so different answers.

If I understand the question correctly (and very probably I don't) you seem to be putting it like there were a time prior to the big bang in which all there was was some kind of "thing" you call nothing.
But this is not what "nothing" means, nothing is not anything, it has no space, no time, no matter, no energy and no properties at all.

Rather, the question could be: If (and it's a big if here) the universe came into being out of nothing, how in the world did that happen?

 

[Lightbringer]

This question is formulated like shit, no wonder everyone of us is giving so different answers.

If I understand the question correctly (and very probably I don't) you seem to be putting it like there were a time prior to the big bang in which all there was was some kind of "thing" you call nothing.
But this is not what "nothing" means, nothing is not anything, it has no space, no time, no matter, no energy and no properties at all.

Rather, the question could be: If (and it's a big if here) the universe came into being out of nothing, how in the world did that happen?

Well the thing is that it didn't come from nothing. Energy always existed, even before matter. Obviously no one knows for certain as to how or what caused the Big Bang, but the common theory is that energy eventually transformed into matter, as simple explanations go.

 

[Marin]

Well the thing is that it didn't come from nothing. Energy always existed, even before matter. Obviously no one knows for certain as to how or what caused the Big Bang, but the common theory is that energy eventually transformed into matter, as simple explanations go.

Aren't matter and energy the same thing tho?

 

[Marin]

Is space and time things in and of themselves or are they just a way to describe lack of matter, and put events in order?

Bro, the question "what is time" is just about the most mind-boggling thibg out there. I remember when I was reading on various philosophies of time. My head hurt xd

 

[Deadlift]

Well the thing is that it didn't come from nothing. Energy always existed, even before matter. Obviously no one knows for certain as to how or what caused the Big Bang, but the common theory is that energy eventually transformed into matter, as simple explanations go.

I doubt it, the consensus of the majority of cosmologists is barely over the standard big bang model, what happened before the big bang, if something really happened, is largely debated.

For example, some believe the universe to be a tiny part of a bigger reality called multiverse. Alan Guth, Arvin Borde and Alexander Vilenkin, who produced a theorem which shows that the beginning of the universe at a finite time ago is largely more probable than not, are proponents of this theory.

Then you have others like Sean Carroll, who formulated a model in which there is a mirror universe in which time goes backwards.

Of course there are a bunch of arguments to support and to refute these and other theories, but they go far beyond my understanding

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

This question is formulated like shit, no wonder everyone of us is giving so different answers.

If I understand the question correctly (and very probably I don't) you seem to be putting it like there were a time prior to the big bang in which all there was was some kind of "thing" you call nothing.
But this is not what "nothing" means, nothing is not anything, it has no space, no time, no matter, no energy and no properties at all.

Rather, the question could be: If (and it's a big if here) the universe came into being out of nothing, how in the world did that happen?

Like what Krauss and Sean said.
The nothing doesn't exist, always is need something to be something. If the universe come from a vacuum it's seems that vacuum pre-existed before universe and was necessary.

 

[Deadlift]

Like what Krauss and Sean said.
The nothing doesn't exist, always is need something to be something. If the universe come from a vacuum it's seems that vacuum pre-existed before universe and was necessary.

Sean who? Carroll? His cosmology is rather different from Krauss'.

I'm persuaded that Krauss produced the "universe out of nothing/quantum vacuum" theory to escape the premise one of the KCM, that is: Everything that begins to exist has a cause.

I'd just suggest you to watch the debates between Krauss and WLC for that theory to be seriously challenged

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Sean who? Carroll? His cosmology is rather different from Krauss'.

I'm persuaded that Krauss produced the "universe out of nothing/quantum vacuum" theory to escape the premise one of the KCM, that is: Everything that begins to exist has a cause.

I'd just suggest you to watch the debates between Krauss and WLC for that theory to be seriously challenged

I read the book of Krauss and he suggest that is was necessary a vacuum exist before our universe and is the best version of nothing also Sean Caroll was asked about this question and he said that the absence of everything not exist.
Is just like 0+0=1 but infinity×0=infinity

 

[Marin]

Like what Krauss and Sean said.
The nothing doesn't exist, always is need something to be something. If the universe come from a vacuum it's seems that vacuum pre-existed before universe and was necessary.

I read the book of Krauss and he suggest that is was necessary a vacuum exist before our universe and is the best version of nothing also Sean Caroll was asked about this question and he said that the absence of everything not exist.
Is just like 0+0=1 but infinity×0=infinity

Your grammar is so shit fam...