It depends on the starting distance , if it is short , then Zabusa can kill Naruto fast before he manages to perform handseals just like Mifune ,
But if it is far enouth to give Naruto some time to perform hand seals , then 1000 clones would wipe the floor with Zabusa, and Zabusa can't hide in the mist forever
hell never locate the original(transformation jutsu if need be), and once he kills a clone they all converge on that location, and brutally murder him. He gets the same treatment that mizuki got.
Lol more silent kill wank I see, naruto would only take advantage of shrouded mist.
- thou, I'm giving him base naruto pain arc feats so it probably wouldn't count.
hell never locate the original(transformation jutsu if need be), and once he kills a clone they all converge on that location, and brutally murder him. He gets the same treatment that mizuki got.
how will he hide in the mist. Killing a clone not only creates an audible poof but the information of the clone goes to all the remaining clones, and jounin or not he isn't killing 1000 naruto's, nor can his water clones assist him, since those pieces of crap got 1 shotted by wave arc sasuke.
Even if he decides to use bigger scale tech, to kill off some that still leaves hundreds of clones from him to contest with. They kill his ass.
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how will he hide in the mist. Killing a clone not only creates an audible poof but the information of the clone goes to all the remaining clones, and jounin or not he isn't killing 1000 naruto's, nor can his water clones assist him, since those pieces of crap got 1 shotted by wave arc sasuke.
Mist allows him to silently wipe out the clones and water clones just make his job easy.he can fight inside mist while naruto cannot.there is no way for naruto to locate him
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Even if he decides to use bigger scale tech, to kill off some that still leaves hundreds of clones from him to contest with. They kill his ass.
ok, and? he resisted et, for like half a second. how is that a reputable feat helps him win?
Mist allows him to silently wipe out the clones and water clones just make his job easy.he can fight inside mist while naruto cannot.there is no way for naruto to locate him
no it doesn't The clones make noise when they die and all the clones gaim information instantly when one of them dies. The moment he kill one he gives up his location. water clones got murdered in mass by wave arc sasuke with or without the mist they aren't killing naruto or his clones.
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no it doesn't The clones make noise when they die and all the clones gaim information instantly when one of them dies. The moment he kill one he gives up his location. water clones got murdered in mass by wave arc sasuke with or without the mist they aren't killing naruto or his clones.
Zabuza's speed is far above him and he is still not seeing him or his clones.
nor are naruto's clone surviving suitons.if zabuza can fight gato's thugs with kunai in mouth he can wipe out base naruto's clone under mist easily
I made the comparison to illustrate mass shadow clones giving naruto the ability to punch far beyond his weight class.
He as a academy student did it to mizuki a chunin
-_- pain couldn't fight them head on and had to resort to shinra tensai. Not to mention why are you talking like rasengan is restricted, or isn't a cqc technique?
2.teh plothole rinnegan can see the chakra of shadow clones disguised as rubble
how does that take away from naruto's feat? Im not arguing weather naruto tricked him. Im saying that 1000 clones will overwhelm the opponent even if they are stronger. Plothole plot nojutsu call it whatever the fck you want the end result was still the same.
It just proves him he is capable jounin unlike certain someone with like zero feats whiose example you are citing
no, its not, or atleast youve yet to prove that. if naruto's clones can survive shinra tensai then yes they survive/ outright dodge a suiton from zabuza.
yes sasuke who has already used 2 shots of chidori and was running low on chakra
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also you using gaara does not make sense becoz he was mental at that stage.
just by bleeding he lost control :lol
-_- pain couldn't fight them head on and had to resort to shinra tensai. Not to mention why are you talking like rasengan is restricted, or isn't a cqc technique?
he he did becoz he has nowhere to hide :lol he was caught in middle of clones.That ST pales in comparison to what is used against toad summons :lol so yeah it was not a full powered attack
also the fact nagato was getting low on chakra.he has already performed chibaku tensei
Naruto ain't landing rasengan in mist.Nor at that moment his clone has shown ablity to make rasengan without original form
how does that take away from naruto's feat? Im not arguing weather naruto tricked him. Im saying that 1000 clones will overwhelm the opponent even if they are stronger. Plothole plot nojutsu call it whatever the fck you want the end result was still the same.
nope him tricking pain is his feat even if it plothole but you are not arguing for this form of naruto
even if you use it as a feat it won't change the he failed to land hit on weakened deva
capable of what. resisting et. Thats not feat, of strength, speed, power etc. Youre bringing it up as if it makes zabuza somehow a better fighter. Drop this point. It adds nothing and youre arguing just to argue, since your dodging the question with superfluous language.
a weakened shinra tensei.It was even after nagato has performed CT while coughing blood :lol
the ability to use jutsu. his clones shown rasengan, that puts them above. Not to mention superior base stats do to naruto himself being stronger over the past 3 years. -_-
yeah they all got violated by kimi who has more or less same base stats as zabuza
this doesn't even make sense. how does kimmi=zabuza=deidara=sasori? what? zabuza is below part 1 out of shape kakashi, yet youre comparing him to the likes of deidara. when in reality he shouldn't even be mentioned with any part 2 antagonist.
Iruka has feats oh wait neh he is in same boat as mizuki
yes sasuke who has already used 2 shots of chidori and was running low on chakra
the point is he was reacting fine was able pull off fireball before gaara could hit him[
-_- so again as I already said. garra getting hit with chidori did nothing to slow his speed since after getting hit by one as sasuke clearly states he got faster.
also you using gaara does not make sense becoz he was mental at that stage.
just by bleeding he lost control :lol
so was literally everybody else i mentioned here -_- i feel like youre not understanding the premise of my argument if you can't grasp that.
That ST pales in comparison to what is used against toad summons :lol so yeah it was not a full powered attack
also the fact nagato was getting low on chakra.he has already performed chibaku tensei
nope him tricking pain is his feat even if it plothole but you are not arguing for this form of naruto
even if you use it as a feat it won't change the he failed to land hit on weakened deva
wow, i really cant. The feat is naruto forcing pain to use shinra tensei. Fighting all the clones wasn't an option for pain. When it was just 2 he had 0 problems:
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When it was 1000? had to use shinra tensai.
and he failed .base naruto clones are not recourceful as rsm clone so i don't even see why are posting this
yes kimmi is stronger than a deidara that has no clay, and a sasori that has no puppets. Unless you forgot the sorry ass condition they were revived in. -_-
Bruh instead of trying to nitpick everything look at the actual argument.
When naruto uses mass clones he can overcome and force on the defensive enemies magnitudes stronger than him,everyone i listed, garra, pain mizuki, and kaguya are examples of that. Prove to me why zabuza would be different.
capable of what. resisting et. Thats not feat, of strength, speed, power etc. Youre bringing it up as if it makes zabuza somehow a better fighter. Drop this point. It adds nothing and youre arguing just to argue, since your dodging the question with superfluous language.
Oh but using naruto's part 1 feat of beating a featless chunin as a feat that he could beat zabuza.feat
Capable of what
Maybe capable of presurring part 1 kakashi who was himself a jounin and if it wasn't for the help from naruto and sasuke for first time bye bye kakashi.
what feat does mizuki has.Oh wait he defeated another featless chunin wow
lmao he claimed that multi kage bunshin would grant him infinite power
Prove it. Last i checked when deva is weakened he can't use ST period. Unless you know something i don't
obviously learn to read the next page before posting
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the ability to use jutsu. his clones shown rasengan, that puts them above. Not to mention superior base stats do to naruto himself being stronger over the past 3 years. -_-
this doesn't even make sense. how does kimmi=zabuza=deidara=sasori? what? zabuza is below part 1 out of shape kakashi, yet youre comparing him to the likes of deidara. when in reality he shouldn't even be mentioned with any part 2 antagonist.
no i misread that part i though you were talking about kimi vs clones
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-_- so again as I already said. garra getting hit with chidori did nothing to slow his speed since after getting hit by one as sasuke clearly states he got faster.
yes and your point is gaara's speed was fast for 2T chunin exam sasuke.Is chunin exam sasuke doing anything to zabuza nope.
Sasuke later hit him with fireball before gaara could reach and then again with c1 chidori.Gaara's speed is irrelevant when chunin exam sasuke can react to it despite being low on chakra
Nitpicking is the case when you are one after another posting feats of naruto failing to land hit on other chars or trying to prove he overwhelmed them with mass clones while completely ignoring he is not seeing zabuza inside the mist
irrelevant why becoz seeing his own blood gaara went all mental.getting cornered by clone he directly went on his bijuu form.well you know what gaara being mental at that point was fact while him being a speedster is not when he got intercepted by chunin exam sasuke twice
so was literally everybody else i mentioned here -_- i feel like youre not understanding the premise of my argument if you can't grasp that.
again baseless.
wew lad lemme say this again Nor at that moment his clone has shown ablity to make rasengan without original form
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how does this remotely prove without original naruto's clone can use rasengan at that time.wait it doesn't
wow, i really cant. The feat is naruto forcing pain to use shinra tensei. Fighting all the clones wasn't an option for pain. When it was just 2 he had 0 problems:
yes those same clones can fight on par with Madar's limbo;Can use bijuu infused FRS so are starting of shippuden naruto as recourceful as them
well nope
yes kimmi is stronger than a deidara that has no clay, and a sasori that has no puppets. Unless you forgot the sorry ass condition they were revived in. -_-
yes he is and cm enhaced state he is far superior to zabuza but what you are saying literally makes zero sense that someone who was not sealed is better than someone who got sealed
Other example are 3rd raikage;second mizukage;hanzo etc etc
Bruh instead of trying to nitpick everything look at the actual argument.
well i am not the one using mizuki's case to prove my point;nor i need part 1 gaara's speed nor am i failing to see why pain didn't use st on 2 clones but he did on multiple clones or why pain st used on naruto was weaker than that use against toads
When naruto uses mass clones he can overcome and force on the defensive enemies magnitudes stronger than him,everyone i listed, garra, pain mizuki, and kaguya are examples of that. Prove to me why zabuza would be different.
yes against a gaara who did not use any sand defense
yes against pain where he failed
yes against kaguya where all his clones have far superior jutsu than anyone
no even gonna address mizuki
Zabuza is the one using mist here with naruto having no way to locate and him having field day against those not good clones who can't since kyuubi chakra is restricted.Yes if base kimi can violate kyuubi enhanced clones with single hits each zabuza is not going have any problem here
