How strong is Rikudou Sasuke ?

[SenseiSama]

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[NarutoX28]

If we're including the aggregation of each of their abilities, 3T Sasuke would defeat Base Naruto decisively, but lose to SM Naruto most likely. This is essentially because Naruto's Ninjutsu is far greater in power with Senjutsu than Sasuke's is though I suppose one could argue that Base Naruto's FRS would get the job done as well.

 

[shadowcb]

He's as strong as base mode Naruto. Base Sasuke and base Naruto were even during their VOTE2 battle and they still are

Base mode Naruto is very fast, strong and powerful -

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[SenseiSama]

If we're including the aggregation of each of their abilities, 3T Sasuke would defeat Base Naruto decisively, but lose to SM Naruto most likely. This is essentially because Naruto's Ninjutsu is far greater in power with Senjutsu than Sasuke's is though I suppose one could argue that Base Naruto's FRS would get the job done as well.

But Sasuke's base chakra is Indra + Hagoromo and Naruto needs RSM to match it, without using the chakra of 9 bijuu his SM would be considerably weaker than 3T Sharingan Sasuke. Him requiring BSM to match Sasuke's speed kinda proves that.

If you count chakra arm as a base feat or the use of bijuu KKG without a chakra cloak then I could see him easily matching 3T Sasuke

 

[Genocide]

Naruto would need to be in atleast SM to do anything, base naruto would be a joke against base Sasuke

do you mean 3t sasuke?

 

[Ansatsuken]

But Sasuke's base chakra is Indra + Hagoromo and Naruto needs RSM to match it, without using the chakra of 9 bijuu his SM would be considerably weaker than 3T Sharingan Sasuke. Him requiring BSM to match Sasuke's speed kinda proves that.

If you count chakra arm as a base feat or the use of bijuu KKG without a chakra cloak then I could see him easily matching 3T Sasuke

Sasuke base Chakra is Six Path chakra so is Base Naruto. What differentiate them is chakra level and chakra potency. Stop with that logic of yours. As Boruto movie suggest, they are very close/even.

 

[Ricardo]

Do you still remember the "Bet Thread" you created?

No....... i think

So are you saying Naruto can handle Sasuke's base speed without BSM at the very least ? Now that's funny

No... i'm saying Guts > your fav.

 

[SenseiSama]

Sasuke base Chakra is Six Path chakra so is Base Naruto. What differentiate them is chakra level and chakra potency. Stop with that logic of yours. As Boruto movie suggest, they are very close/even.

What differentiated them ? The fact that Indra had the stronger chakra genes and therefore the potency to force Ashura to use Six Path Senjutsu to match his jutsu


It's the same reason Naruto needs BSM to match Sasuke's natural speed and why Hashi and Naruto need to use high level Sage Mode to match the natural chakra of Indra transmigrants.

 

[Ansatsuken]

What differentiated them ? The fact that Indra had the stronger chakra genes and therefore the potency to force Ashura to use Six Path Senjutsu to match his jutsu


It's the same reason Naruto needs BSM to match Sasuke's natural speed and why Hashi and Naruto need to use high level Sage Mode to match the natural chakra of Indra transmigrants.

Both Indra and Ashura have Six Path chakra they inherited from Hago. Think like DMS Kakashi as Indra vs RSM Naruto as Ashura.

Why I chose DMS Kakashi and not Sasuke? It bcus he used plain/standard MS like Indra and not a Rinnegan+Sharingan+Six Path chakra. Plain/standard MS + Six Path chakra he get from Obito.

It just Kakashi doesn't have chakra level of Sasuke/Naruto,

Thats how Indra would looked like. The Uchiha ancestor with strong eyes(Sharingan) and chakra of his father. With this kind of chakra potency provide by Six Path chakra he can created PS using MS without any drawback.



Thus what Sasuke have currently is Six Path chakra similar to Indra and AShura and Naruto + Powerful eyes(representing Yin)

For Ashura, bcus he representing Yang(power of physical body), he can master the art of Senjutsu mode.

Powerful body (Six Path Senjutsu) against Powerful Eyes (Six Path Mangekyo Sharingan)

Note: Six Path Mangekyo Sharingan just an unofficial term from me so no ill-feeling :kd:

It easy to challenge your logic.

 

[Warlocks]

So are you saying Naruto can handle Sasuke's base speed without BSM at the very least ? Now that's funny

u need to re read the manga again
then u can see how base naruto was = to 3t sasuke

 

[SenseiSama]

Both Indra and Ashura have Six Path chakra they inherited from Hago. Think like DMS Kakashi as Indra vs RSM Naruto as Ashura.

Why I chose DMS Kakashi and not Sasuke? It bcus he used plain/standard MS like Indra and not a Rinnegan+Sharingan+Six Path chakra. Plain/standard MS + Six Path chakra he get from Obito.

It just Kakashi doesn't have chakra level of Sasuke/Naruto,

Thats how Indra would looked like. The Uchiha ancestor with strong eyes(Sharingan) and chakra of his father. With this kind of chakra potency provide by Six Path chakra he can created PS using MS without any drawback.



Thus what Sasuke have currently is Six Path chakra similar to Indra and AShura and Naruto + Powerful eyes(representing Yin)

For Ashura, bcus he representing Yang(power of physical body), he can master the art of Senjutsu mode.

Powerful body (Six Path Senjutsu) against Powerful Eyes (Six Path Mangekyo Sharingan)

Note: Six Path Mangekyo Sharingan just an unofficial term from me so no ill-feeling :kd:

It easy to challenge your logic.

Nope, Indra never had Six Path Senjutsu which is Juubi chakra, it's why he was never able to use TSB unlike Ashura and the JuubiJins.

Indra had diluted version of Hago's chakra but his genes allowed him to possess chakra with the same potency as Hago's original chakra despite not having the same amount of NE that Ashura and JuubiJins possess.

 

[NextGenNinja]

I don't think anyone bar rikudou tiers could even react to sasuke's speed, so most people would get cleaved into two. I'm sure naruto needs to be at least in some form of RSM to react to sasuke, let alone block/dodge his sword strikes.

 

[SenseiSama]

u need to re read the manga again
then u can see how base naruto was = to 3t sasuke

You need to re-read the manga, Ashura transmigrants don't have the natural chakra to match Indra transmigrants, they need to rely on NE/bijuu chakra to match the likes of Sasuke and Madara.

 

[Warlocks]

You need to re-read the manga, Ashura transmigrants don't have the natural chakra to match Indra transmigrants, they need to rely on NE/bijuu chakra to match the likes of Sasuke and Madara.

nice try but u lose this

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sasuke with 8.5 biju=drained naruto with drained 0.5 biju+ne

sasuke even with rin+ems+six path chakra boost couldn't even over power base naruto

 

[Ansatsuken]

Nope, Indra never had Six Path Senjutsu which is Juubi chakra, it's why he was never able to use TSB unlike Ashura and the JuubiJins. Indra had diluted version of Hago's chakra but his genes allowed him to inherit a chakra with the same potency as Hago's original chakra.

I never said Indra have Six Path Senjutsu but Six Path chakra. As no one can inherited Six Path Senjutsu or the fact that Sage Mode cant be passed down but can only be achieve through training is meaningless.

Ashura learned Senjutsu in the past and bcus he had Six Path chakra, he can have Six Path Senjutsu. Naruto obtained Six Path Senjutsu after he received Hagoromo's Six Path chakra when he was a Sage Mode user.

I never need to used far reaching logic like You e.g Juubi chakra, deluted version what else. What I need is manga fact and logic closer to manga fact and databook. It simple.

Edit: Even I doubt Ashura had Six Path Senjutsu let alone Six Path chakra as Manga/Databook never implied it. I went by your comment actually.

 

[Warlocks]

I don't think anyone bar rikudou tiers could even react to sasuke's speed, so most people would get cleaved into two. I'm sure naruto needs to be at least in some form of RSM to react to sasuke, let alone block/dodge his sword strikes.

here base naruto react and block full power sasuke attack low dif

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[NarutoX28]

But Sasuke's base chakra is Indra + Hagoromo and Naruto needs RSM to match it, without using the chakra of 9 bijuu his SM would be considerably weaker than 3T Sharingan Sasuke. Him requiring BSM to match Sasuke's speed kinda proves that.

If you count chakra arm as a base feat or the use of bijuu KKG without a chakra cloak then I could see him easily matching 3T Sasuke

Your perspective is limited to CQC. I agree that Naruto would require RSM to compete with Sasuke in CQC, but when we include Ninjutsu, likely not. Rasengan and Chidori exhibited equivalent strength even during their VoTE 2 clash, so this should remain consistent as Adults. FRS however, is something Base Naruto has exhibited mastery over and greatly exceeds anything Rikudou Sasuke can accomplish outside of the Rinnegan and MS jutsus. I don't believe Base Naruto can defeat Sasuke, but SM Naruto has a good chance of doing so against 3T Sasuke.

 

[NextGenNinja]

here base naruto react and block full power sasuke attack low dif

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So, reacting to sasuke's leap is the same as reacting to his shunshin speed? Ok.

 

[SenseiSama]

nice try but u lose this

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sasuke with 8.5 biju=drained naruto with drained 0.5 biju+ne

sasuke even with rin+ems+six path chakra boost couldn't even over power base naruto

Nice try but Naruto activated RSM to counter a simple goukakyu jutsu and then to match the power of Sasuke's PS. On top of that RSM already consists of the chakra of 9 bijuu along with Ashura's chakra and Hagoromo's chakra.

Btw, Sasuke used the bijuu to force Naruto to rely on Kurama to gather a maximum amounts of NE which gave him similar amounts of energy as Kaguya when she absorbs chakra from IT victims

 

[Genocide]

Nope, Indra never had Six Path Senjutsu which is Juubi chakra, it's why he was never able to use TSB unlike Ashura and the JuubiJins.

Indra had diluted version of Hago's chakra but his genes allowed him to possess chakra with the same potency as Hago's original chakra despite not having the same amount of NE that Ashura and JuubiJins possess.

he said six path chakra not senjutsu