Juken or Strong fist? Which one is a better style out of the two?

[Bakura]

I got to roll with Strong Fist since it seems to focus on all aspects of fighting thus making a persons body quite strong after crazy amounts of training

 

[SenseiSama]

Manga says Gentle Fist is the highest level of taijutsu

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Depends on the skill and speed of the users.

 

[Guntah]

Easily Jyuken. In sheer style, nothing matches the Jyuuken after all.

 

[lndra]

I'd go with the gentle fist.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

- Both Juken and strong fist can one shot you.

- Juken can break anything made of chakra as stated and shown.strong fist can´t

 

[uhmusddy]

I wish we could of seen a Hyuuga(Neji) reck a susanoo.

Gentle fist ftw

 

[Bakura]

Juken is cool dont get me wrong but the strongest feat it displayed was through a Otsutsuki clan member but Strong Fist to me has alot of feats through Might Guy alone now let a Otsutsuki utilize Strong Fist and tell me that wouldn't be overpowered

 

[BlacLord™]

Depends on the user.

Neji couldn't even deal with a Susano'o ribcage with Juuken, but Might Guy could most probably smash through one with Gouken.

 

[Umari Senju]

Depends on the user.

Neji couldn't even deal with a Susano'o ribcage with Juuken, but Might Guy could most probably smash through one with Gouken.

I'm not to familiar with strong fist's inner workings. Is Strong Fist similar to Juuken where as you need open some gates to use it to make it effect? Like needing the Byakugan to fully utilize Juuken? Or is it just naturally a powerful taijutsu style?

The way I see it they both are kind of equal in their different aspects. Strong Fist is about power and speed where Juuken is about accuracy and debilitation.

Like I can see a strong Fist user smashing through Heavenly Rotation. And likewise, I can see a Skilled Hyuga shutting down the kintetsu of their opponent before 8IG can be utilized to bolster Strong Fist.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Jyuken attacks the very deepest of your body(this part of your body is pivotal to keep your body functioning) where you dont need much strength to disable your opponent. And not all Shimobi have special shield that Jyuken find difficult to penetrate.

In effectiveness I go with Jyuken

I'm not to familiar with strong fist's inner workings. Is Strong Fist similar to Juuken where as you need open some gates to use it to make it effect? Like needing the Byakugan to fully utilize Juuken? Or is it just naturally a powerful taijutsu style?

The way I see it they both are kind of equal in their different aspects. Strong Fist is about power and speed where Juuken is about accuracy and debilitation.

Like I can see a strong Fist user smashing through Heavenly Rotation. And likewise, I can see a Skilled Hyuga shutting down the kintetsu of their opponent before 8IG can be utilized to bolster Strong Fist.

Strong Fist (剛拳, Gōken) is Guy's and Lee's characteristic fighting style, the purpose of which is to cause external damage and break bones. It is the exact opposite of Gentle Fist which is used mainly by the Hyūga Clan.[1] This style of fighting involves smashing your opponent and is generally used only by extremely physically powerful and dominating shinobi.

 

[BlacLord™]

I'm not to familiar with strong fist's inner workings. Is Strong Fist similar to Juuken where as you need open some gates to use it to make it effect? Like needing the Byakugan to fully utilize Juuken? Or is it just naturally a powerful taijutsu style?

The way I see it they both are kind of equal in their different aspects. Strong Fist is about power and speed where Juuken is about accuracy and debilitation.

Like I can see a strong Fist user smashing through Heavenly Rotation. And likewise, I can see a Skilled Hyuga shutting down the kintetsu of their opponent before 8IG can be utilized to bolster Strong Fist.

Strong Fist relies on one's own physical power - of course that can be boosted with the Gates. It focuses on brute force, which on a person translates to breaking bones and inflicting damage on the outside. A direct antithesis to Gentle Fist which focuses on forcibly disrupting chakra flow, translating to damaging organs on a person.

I agree with your comment though that as styles, they're equal for different reasons. However, Strong Fist has the advantage that it doesn't need boosts or other powers to be completely effective. Just a person with well-honed physical abilities and good technique... As you can see below, base Guy has no trouble levelling a wall with a single punch:

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[Ansatsuken]

Strong Fist relies on one's own physical power - of course that can be boosted with the Gates. It focuses on brute force, which on a person translates to breaking bones and inflicting damage on the outside. A direct antithesis to Gentle Fist which focuses on forcibly disrupting chakra flow, translating to damaging organs on a person.

I agree with your comment though that as styles, they're equal for different reasons. However, Strong Fist has the advantage that it doesn't need boosts or other powers to be completely effective. Just a person with well-honed physical abilities and good technique... As you can see below, base Guy has no trouble levelling a wall with a single punch:

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I think Strong Fist is more reliant on power boast to effect something where Gentle Fist do the most effective thing to disable the human, closing Chakra path way.

Yes Jyuken is less effective in smashing and destroying wall or solid Object thus its needs massive power boast bcus it not made to deal with full fledged Solid Construct but when it being applies to human, its very effective technique bcus using less power and just manipulate human weaknesses.

 

[Umari Senju]

Strong Fist relies on one's own physical power - of course that can be boosted with the Gates. It focuses on brute force, which on a person translates to breaking bones and inflicting damage on the outside. A direct antithesis to Gentle Fist which focuses on forcibly disrupting chakra flow, translating to damaging organs on a person.

I agree with your comment though that as styles, they're equal for different reasons. However, Strong Fist has the advantage that it doesn't need boosts or other powers to be completely effective. Just a person with well-honed physical abilities and good technique... As you can see below, base Guy has no trouble levelling a wall with a single punch:

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Ah I see that was my deciding factor right there; whether you needed the 8IG to actually make it effective. Juuken is kind of lacking in that department without having a Byakugan to really bring out its potential so I'll go with strong Fist though they are pretty close in use.

 

[Ansatsuken]

And I agree Strong Fist can sails the both world (up against human and solid inanimate construct) easily. You just need to adjust your physical strength to fit the job and its done.

Like a DB, Toriko characters and anyone who rely much on their physical strength.

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:lol

 

[Bakura]

Strong Fist style that can actually be passed down to anyone who wants to train within that style where as Juken is only effective if your a Hyuuga clan member... Boruto is a great example of this notion

 

[Ansatsuken]

Strong Fist style that can actually be passed down to anyone who wants to train within that style where as Juken is only effective if your a Hyuuga clan member... Boruto is a great example of this notion

Outside of Naruto world, there exist such the same art as Jyuken that doesnt need any Byakugan. It have the ability to shut off your neural network/your spiritual path way make you paralyze of explode.

 

[BlacLord™]

I think Strong Fist is more reliant on power boast to effect something where Gentle Fist do the most effective thing to disable the human, closing Chakra path way.

Yes Jyuken is less effective in smashing and destroying wall or solid Object thus its needs massive power boast bcus it not made to deal with full fledged Solid Construct but when it being applies to human, its very effective technique bcus using less power and just manipulate human weaknesses.

On all but three fronts, they're pretty equal by being the "other side of the coin":

(G vs. S)

- Drains chakra vs. Drains stamina
- Opponent not doing much with damaged organs vs. Opponent not doing much with broken bones
- Relies on extremely refined technique and Byakugan to be fully effective vs. relies on refined technique and physical power to be fully effective.

etc etc

But Strong Fist has the advantages of:

- Is just as effective in disabling humans, but is also vastly more effective against destroying physical constructs.
- No Byakugan needed to make full use of it.
- Higher potential.
- Can be massively boosted with Gates.
- Simpler, as you don't have to mould chakra to use it.

 

[Bakura]

Outside of Naruto world, there exist such the same art as Jyuken that doesnt need any Byakugan. It have the ability to shut off your neural network/your spiritual path way make you paralyze of explode.

Kind of reminds me of Fist of the North Star

 

[Ansatsuken]

On all but three fronts, they're pretty equal by being the "other side of the coin":

(G vs. S)

- Drains chakra vs. Drains stamina
- Opponent not doing much with damaged organs vs. Opponent not doing much with broken bones
- Relies on extremely refined technique and Byakugan to be fully effective vs. relies on refined technique and physical power to be fully effective.

etc etc

But Strong Fist has the advantages of:

- Is just as effective in disabling humans, but is also vastly more effective against destroying physical constructs.
- No Byakugan needed to make full use of it.
- Higher potential.
- Can be massively boosted with Gates.
- Simpler, as you don't have to mould chakra to use it.

Yeah I can see that