Betsy Devos confirmed as Education Secretary.....

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Welp, Betsy Devos is confirmed as Education Secretary......yup, that really just happened.

Good luck America!



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I say give it a shot i mean acting like lunatics isnt going to help nothing in all honesty the teachers union needs to represent the teachers of any school reguardless if it is private school or otherwise rather then serving their own interests especally throwing pointless strikes during the school year because lets get real who is losing more in these strikes if your answer is the kids then you are right i think a good shake up in the system is in order
 

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I say give it a shot i mean acting like lunatics isnt going to help nothing in all honesty the teachers union needs to represent the teachers of any school reguardless if it is private school or otherwise rather then serving their own interests especally throwing pointless strikes during the school year because lets get real who is losing more in these strikes if your answer is the kids then you are right i think a good shake up in the system is in order

Betsy Devos doesn't believe in public education and wants schools to teach Christian faith over science.

She is extreme as extreme gets.
 

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You just can't give it a rest when it comes to criticizing Trump huh? Hes already proven himself flexible when someone points out that his plans are flawed, in a reasonable fashion mind you.

People like you are so childish, you're okay with your government doing everything that Trump does as long as the President is "nice" and doesn't divulge the reality to you, but God help America if the President is straightforward about things to you and doesn't sugar coat a damn thing.
 

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You just can't give it a rest when it comes to criticizing Trump huh? Hes already proven himself flexible when someone points out that his plans are flawed, in a reasonable fashion mind you.

People like you are so childish, you're okay with your government doing everything that Trump does as long as the President is "nice" and doesn't divulge the reality to you, but God help America if the President is straightforward about things to you and doesn't sugar coat a damn thing.

Flexible? Not sure what you mean.

So now you're a mind reader?

When people bring up how great of a president Obama is, I criticize him for his failed drone strikes, his foreign intervention blunders, his corporatist record, and his unwillingness to be aggressive on policy stances.

So no, I will criticize any politician, even Bernie Sanders, if he was anything like Trump.

But unlike Trump, Obama has redeeming qualities and did a lot of good as well. So I give credit where credit is due.




And Trump is not straight forward. Being a pathological liar is not straight forward. He just doesn't have a filter to what he says, that doesn't mean he tells it like it is.

But the nuance of my statement might fly over your head.
 
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More and more it looks like if your not rich you will be screwed in the future

I honestly hope people wake up and realize both parties don't care about your interests and we need a complete overhaul of things
 

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It's weird, all democrats voted against her, two republicans voted against her then it was 5050 and Mike Pence voted for her.


Betsy Devos doesn't believe in public education and wants schools to teach Christian faith over science.

She is extreme as extreme gets.

It's really unique how this is happening.
 
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It's weird, all democrats voted against her, two republicans voted against her then it was 5050 and Mike Pence voted for her.



It's really unique how this is happening.

So much for checks and balances.

It's looking more and more like a complete kleptocratic oligarchy.
 

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This basically confirms that almost all establishment Republicans are either braindead morons or corrupt partisan hacks.
 

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This basically confirms that almost all establishment Republicans are either braindead morons or corrupt partisan hacks.

Sort of like the Democratic establishment politicians that everyone wanted over Trump right? Why can't people realize that both sides are equally bought out and corrupt.
 

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Sort of like the Democratic establishment politicians that everyone wanted over Trump right? Why can't people realize that both sides are equally bought out and corrupt.

Except they are not equal in their corruption.
 

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Except they are not equal in their corruption.

Yes they are. Have you not seen Project Veritas and all the evidence that they had on Hillary? Are you that naive to believe that the people in power would reveal how corrupt they are to you? Everyone knows they're equally as bad besides the far right and far left.
 

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Yes they are. Have you not seen Project Veritas and all the evidence that they had on Hillary? Are you that naive to believe that the people in power would reveal how corrupt they are to you? Everyone knows they're equally as bad besides the far right and far left.

Collectively they are not as corrupt. Democrats aren't the ones denying Global Warming and trying to repeal the healthcare of 20million people without a replacement.

Republicans have always been a party for the rich and privileged. I can't recall one policy they made which without a doubt helped the working class.
 

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Betsy Devos doesn't believe in public education and wants schools to teach Christian faith over science.

She is extreme as extreme gets.

So parents being allowed to pick a school is extremism? I think you should study more in to public schools i have been in the grinder called public school their is a strike every year by the union
 

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So parents being allowed to pick a school is extremism? I think you should study more in to public schools i have been in the grinder called public school their is a strike every year by the union

Not sure what you mean? Parents are allowed to pick their schools.

Betsy Devos wants to privatize schools and make them teach Christian gospels over science. Are you saying you are completely ok with that?
 

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Collectively they are not as corrupt. Democrats aren't the ones denying Global Warming and trying to repeal the healthcare of 20million people without a replacement.

Republicans have always been a party for the rich and privileged. I can't recall one policy they made which without a doubt helped the working class.

Trump has said he is a skeptic there are many branches of skeptisim he never said he dont believe he just said he was skeptical on the rate of effect or how far it has gone

And no the Republican Party wasnt the party for the rich actually they made sure that monopolies cant exist in the usa and abolished slavery and made the first national parks
 

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Not sure what you mean? Parents are allowed to pick their schools.

Betsy Devos wants to privatize schools and make them teach Christian gospels over science. Are you saying you are completely ok with that?

Give me a minute im going to look into what your talking about
 

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Trump has said he is a skeptic there are many branches of skeptisim he never said he dont believe he just said he was skeptical on the rate of effect or how far it has gone

And no the Republican Party wasnt the party for the rich actually they made sure that monopolies cant exist in the usa and abolished slavery and made the first national parks

I wasn't talking about the Republican party as a whole. And Trump explicitly stated that he believes Global Warming is a hoax from China and already made sure the EPA got rid of any mention of climate change in their website.

I was referring to post-WWII Republican party, where liberals and conservatives switched parties.
 

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Give me a minute im going to look into what your talking about




"For deeply devout people like Lanting and DeVos, education plays a key role in that mission. Since her nomination, DeVos hasn't had much to say about her faith—or whether she plans to defend the separation of church and state in public schools. (DeVos declined Mother Jones' request for an interview, but a Trump transition team spokeswoman replied in an email, "Mrs. DeVos believes in the legal doctrine of the separation of church and state.") However, in a 2001 interview for The Gathering, a group focused on advancing Christian faith through philanthropy, she and her husband offered a rare public glimpse of their views. Asked whether Christian schools should continue to rely on giving—rather than pushing for taxpayer money through vouchers—Betsy DeVos replied, "There are not enough philanthropic dollars in America to fund what is currently the need in education...Our desire is to confront the culture in ways that will continue to advance God's kingdom."

Added **** DeVos: "As we look at many communities in our country, the church has been displaced by the public school as the center for activity...It is certainly our hope that more and more churches will get more and more active and engaged in education."

Indeed, critics argue the DeVoses are attempting to expand the definition of "school choice"—typically understood as giving parents the ability to pick any traditional public school or charter school in a district—to allow taxpayer money to follow students to any private school via vouchers. Some critics of school choice argue that charters, which are publicly funded but governed by appointed boards and often run by private companies with varying degrees of state oversight, can skim high-performing students from traditional public schools, leaving them with more high-needs kids and less money. But the push for so-called "universal school choice" could take that a step further by eventually leading to a radical redirection of funds from traditional public schools to private schools, many of which are Christian: Trump's signature education proposal calls for dedicating $20 billion in federal money to help families move away from what he has called our "failing government schools" and instead choose charter, private, or religious schools."
 
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I wasn't talking about the Republican party as a whole. And Trump explicitly stated that he believes Global Warming is a hoax from China and already made sure the EPA got rid of any mention of climate change in their website.

I was referring to post-WWII Republican party, where liberals and conservatives switched parties.

There was no switch the Republican Party has stayed mostly the same in all actuallity its just the Democratic Party that changed

Also i read on the charter schools they are by all means public funded and are by all means public schools they are just not tied in within citys like public schools are

Plus i read on Debbie as well it hasnt stated that she wants to force schools to teach christanity i think you are misinformed on that please do more research into her before judging

And if you are concerned then i would say join advocacy groups on better power systems nuclear power and solar are cleaner energy the first being sustainable the other renewable energy
 
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