Naruto's counter to Preta

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Wrong, Sasuke can sense NE and isn't naive enough to get hit by FK after the first time.

Sensing it doesn't make it not counter him. Sasuke could only feel the buildup of the world's NE after Naruto received it.

If you think he can feel FK you're crazy.
 

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Sensing it doesn't make it not counter him. Sasuke could only feel the buildup of the world's NE after Naruto received it.

If you think he can feel FK you're crazy.

Nope, if he can sense NE he can sense FK period. He has Rikudou chakra which is a variant of Senjutsu

its not pure denial until he can absorb jutsu while simultaneously using jutsu lmao, you are spitting conjecture


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Nope, if he can sense NE he can sense FK period. He has Rikudou chakra which is a variant of Senjutsu




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does that explicitly say he can? no it doesnt
 

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Nope, if he can sense NE he can sense FK period. He has Rikudou chakra which is a variant of Senjutsu
Nope. The manga made it pretty clear he only sensed it after Kurama sent the entire buildup to Naruto, which was the collective of the World's NE. Sasuke doesn't just sense 'Natural Energy', otherwise he would of just stopped Kurama the moment he would of 'sensed' him building it. Or after Kurama 'gathered it all' right before he sent it to Naruto.

Common sense :coffee:

He ain't sensing no Frog Kata instantaneously cause you want him to.
 

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Nope, if he can sense NE he can sense FK period. He has Rikudou chakra which is a variant of Senjutsu




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His rinnegan is 12 years old here....:coffee:
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Couldn't absorb the bijuu dama lol, bijuu dama RS wrecks.
Frog kata wrecks.
Attack from multiple direction wrecks.

Another garbage thread.
 

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There is a certain Limit to what Sasuke can absorb. He was totally useless against Momoshiki despite his ability to absorb ninjutsu. I guess if the Ninjutsu contains greater quality or quantity of chakra than Sasuke's it can't be absorbed.

And Naruto can use the world's NE to his desire. I guess that's a good counter.
 

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Absorbing raw NE prabably not for Sasuke but a senjutsu enhanced tech then Sasuke could absorb it just like Madara did.. Though 1 base RS was alot to a edo Madz..

Sasuke isn't a "Sage" but he can take on alot of senjutsu with out harm but just not raw NE..
 

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His rinnegan is 12 years old here....:coffee:
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Couldn't absorb the bijuu dama lol, bijuu dama RS wrecks.
Frog kata wrecks.
Attack from multiple direction wrecks.

Another garbage thread.

Exactly.

Kishi knew how hax FK is, which is why he kept Naruto from using it on his enemies. :win:
 

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Susanoo is made of Sasuke's chakra and is manipulated entirely by Sasuke, it's not an independent entity like Naruto's BM, in other words Sasuke was the one controlling the chakra of the 9 bijuu NOT his avatar.

Susano'o has exhibited feats of greater monstrosity including PS Chidori which trounces anything Sasuke can do on his lonesome. There's a substantial difference between the two, most certainly.

Wrong, Kurama explicitly stated Sasuke was unable to use ninjutsu and Preta at the same time because he was still NEW to Rinnegan. That means with experience he would be able to absorb chakra and use ninjutsu AT THE SAME TIME.

Adding on to that, he proved multiple times that Susanoo is an extension of his body and can therefore use ninjutsu the same way he does. His avatar used chidori, Enton and Outer Path. Claiming he can't use Preta with it is pure denial.

I stated that he wouldn't be able to use both techniques at full-power if they were used simultaneously. I agree with Kurama's sentiment, but Madara possessed greater proficiency than Nagato did yet failed to perform Preta Path when using Susano'o. Experience would aid in rectifying this, but it clearly isn't indicative of complete mastery over it.

Perfect Susano'o has harnessed more power than Sasuke ever could on his lonesome as illustrated by PS Chidori, so there is little credence in what you're claiming.
 

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Susano'o has exhibited feats of greater monstrosity including PS Chidori which trounces anything Sasuke can do on his lonesome. There's a substantial difference between the two, most certainly.

That's because it amplifies Sasuke's abilities, but what I'm saying is that an avatar's ability depends on the user's skill. Reason Susanoo was able to mix all the chakra effortlessly was because Sasuke was one controlling it, hence why he was compared to Hagoromo. Susano can't function on its own like BM


I stated that he wouldn't be able to use both techniques at full-power if they were used simultaneously. I agree with Kurama's sentiment, but Madara possessed greater proficiency than Nagato did yet failed to perform Preta Path when using Susano'o. Experience would aid in rectifying this, but it clearly isn't indicative of complete mastery over it. Perfect Susano'o has harnessed more power than Sasuke ever could on his lonesome as illustrated by PS Chidori, so there is little credence in what you're claiming.

He would be able to because because his jutsu would feed off of the chakra being absorbed. To me this is the biggest reason Kishi only gave him one hand.
 

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frog kata

Nope, Sasuke can sense NE and is smart enough to not get hit by it more than once.

His rinnegan is 12 years old here....:coffee:
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Couldn't absorb the bijuu dama lol, bijuu dama RS wrecks.
Frog kata wrecks.
Attack from multiple direction wrecks.

Another garbage thread.

Garbage logic, you should know by now Kishimoto restricted him form using any of the 6 Path techniques. According to you he can't use Deva because he didn't use it in the movie. Typical Naruto fap thinking
 

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sasuke can't dodge invisible punches

He can read Naruto's arm movements and them use Ameno. And he was proven to be able to sense NE in VoTE 2 gg :coffee:

Sensing it doesn't make it not counter him. Sasuke could only feel the buildup of the world's NE after Naruto received it.

If you think he can feel FK you're crazy.

If he can feel NE being absorbed he can sense it period

And let's conveniently ignore the fact

1. he only needs to encounter a jutsu once to develop a counter

2. he has pre-cog vision

3. he has instant travel

4. he has Susanoo

FK isn't doing shit bruv :lol
 

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He can read Naruto's arm movements and them use Ameno. And he was proven to be able to sense NE in VoTE 2 gg :coffee:



If he can feel NE being absorbed he can sense it period

And let's conveniently ignore the fact

1. he only needs to encounter a jutsu once to develop a counter

2. he has pre-cog vision

3. he has instant travel

4. he has Susanoo

FK isn't doing shit bruv :lol
Dude if Sasuke only felt the NE aftet Naruto received it, it's only because it was a large substance of it.

Sasuke did not:


Feel NE when it was being gathered


He only felt it when Kurama transferred all of it at once.

Of you place 2 and 2 together you'll see why he did it. Sasuke doesn't having sensing powers lol
 

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Dude if Sasuke only felt the NE aftet Naruto received it, it's only because it was a large substance of it.

Sasuke did not:


Feel NE when it was being gathered


He only felt it when Kurama transferred all of it at once.

Of you place 2 and 2 together you'll see why he did it. Sasuke doesn't having sensing powers lol

Aside from Naruto no one able to sense the NE from the Juubi, only its chakra. If you can feel NE it's because you can sense it and Sasuke can because Rikudou chakra is a variant of Senjutsu chakra.
 

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Aside from Naruto no one able to sense the NE from the Juubi, only its chakra. If you can feel NE it's because you can sense it and Sasuke can because Rikudou chakra is a variant of Senjutsu chakra.
You're forgetting the fact that he only sensed it after it was received and being used simulateously.

If Sasuke had any real sensing prowess, Kurama would of never been able to gather it in the first place.

I believe the large inflation of NE from the world caused him to feel it, hell there are feats of people sensing similar objects without Rikudou chakra or sensing abilities as well.

It's a matter of perspective, though. Nowhere did the feat itself want you see that he had a sensing ability, rather than the fact that Sasuke felt the large massive transfer because of the large quantity itself.
 

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You're forgetting the fact that he only sensed it after it was received and being used simulateously.

If Sasuke had any real sensing prowess, Kurama would of never been able to gather it in the first place.

I believe the large inflation of NE from the world caused him to feel it, hell there are feats of people sensing similar objects without Rikudou chakra or sensing abilities as well.

It's a matter of perspective, though. Nowhere did the feat itself want you see that he had a sensing ability, rather than the fact that Sasuke felt the large massive transfer because of the large quantity itself.

Sasuke intentionally let Naruto absorb all that NE because he wanted him to go all out, NE surrounds the entire planet yet no one is able to sense it, Juubi only uses a fraction of the NE so there's no reason for people to be able to sense it.


Sasuke felt it Kurama sending NE to Naruto because he could sense it. And he could sense it because Rikudou chakra originally comes from Six Path Senjutsu.
 

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Sasuke intentionally let Naruto absorb all that NE because he wanted him to go all out, NE surrounds the entire planet yet no one is able to sense it, Juubi only uses a fraction of the NE so there's no reason for people to be able to sense it.


Sasuke felt it Kurama sending NE to Naruto because he could sense it. And he could sense it because Rikudou chakra originally comes from Six Path Senjutsu.
Bro in VIZ Sasuke literally said "How did he get all of this natural energy so suddenly" xD.

Probably cause of Rikudou chakra, but he felt the transfer, not the NE buildup.

A real sensor could feel bogh, there's a stark difference to what Sasuke can do post-Rikudou, and what Naruto or any sensor can do regular.
 
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