Sannin vs edo Nagato

[sayian]

restrict: CT, OP, edo tensei


intel: sannin have basic intel on pein but none of nagato

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[LuckyMan]

What forms do they start in? If Nagato starts frail on low power mode and the Sannin start in base, it's a good match. If Nagato starts revitalized and the Sannin in base, he stomps. If the Sannin start in SM/Byakugou/Zetsu and Nagato starts frail on low power, they stomp. If both sides start out at full potential it can go either way.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nagato destroys them.

-CST is a one shot when it's used.
-Even without it Nagato's other abilities are too much for them to handle.

All chakra based Ninjutsu is absorbed. That makes Jiraiya pretty useless in this match since his strongest offensive abilities are absorbable. Shinra Tensei repels pretty much everything else this lot can produce when it comes to offense and it'd do heavy damage to Jiraiya or kill him if Nagato puts enough force into it while Tsunade and Oro would be able to survive, but Nagato has Bansho Tennin, Asura Path and Human Path so reeling them in is simple and killing them is even simpler. Launching attacks while being dragged in isn't happening, especially since Tsunade needs to be close to do any damage and if she ever gets that close to Nagato she gets bound and killed with Human Path. Their projectiles are fairly weak so the Panda Summon is enough to block it.

So yeah, either CST one shots them. They each get reeled in with BT and killed w/ Human Path or Nagato bombards them with summons and then moves in for the kill. :lol Sannin stand no chance of victory whatsoever and even implying they do is just wank at it's finest.

 

[TheEvilOne]

I agree with KidGamer.

 

[Nattana]

Nagato destroys them.

-CST is a one shot when it's used.
-Even without it Nagato's other abilities are too much for them to handle.

All chakra based Ninjutsu is absorbed. That makes Jiraiya pretty useless in this match since his strongest offensive abilities are absorbable. Shinra Tensei repels pretty much everything else this lot can produce when it comes to offense and it'd do heavy damage to Jiraiya or kill him if Nagato puts enough force into it while Tsunade and Oro would be able to survive, but Nagato has Bansho Tennin, Asura Path and Human Path so reeling them in is simple and killing them is even simpler. Launching attacks while being dragged in isn't happening, especially since Tsunade needs to be close to do any damage and if she ever gets that close to Nagato she gets bound and killed with Human Path. Their projectiles are fairly weak so the Panda Summon is enough to block it.

So yeah, either CST one shots them. They each get reeled in with BT and killed w/ Human Path or Nagato bombards them with summons and then moves in for the kill. :lol Sannin stand no chance of victory whatsoever and even implying they do is just wank at it's finest.

Nagato uses Bashou Tenin and gets pierced by Kusanagi launched from Oro's mouth. CST does absolutely nothing to Orochimaru, much like any other blunt attack. Nagato making himself stationary to use ST or BT leaves himself open to sneaky attacks from underground. Summons are getting dealt with with poison (or stalled by Sannin summons) and the invisible one is countered by smell and temperature sensing. Human Path is never gonna work when there's 3 people around.

With such restrictions on Nagato, he isn't really that strong, considering that here he has to face 3 people out of whom 2 can tank ST like nothing and one can set up massive amout of sneaky attacks and backstabs.

 

[LuckyMan]

Nagato destroys them.

-CST is a one shot when it's used.
-Even without it Nagato's other abilities are too much for them to handle.

All chakra based Ninjutsu is absorbed. That makes Jiraiya pretty useless in this match since his strongest offensive abilities are absorbable. Shinra Tensei repels pretty much everything else this lot can produce when it comes to offense and it'd do heavy damage to Jiraiya or kill him if Nagato puts enough force into it while Tsunade and Oro would be able to survive, but Nagato has Bansho Tennin, Asura Path and Human Path so reeling them in is simple and killing them is even simpler. Launching attacks while being dragged in isn't happening, especially since Tsunade needs to be close to do any damage and if she ever gets that close to Nagato she gets bound and killed with Human Path. Their projectiles are fairly weak so the Panda Summon is enough to block it.

So yeah, either CST one shots them. They each get reeled in with BT and killed w/ Human Path or Nagato bombards them with summons and then moves in for the kill. :lol Sannin stand no chance of victory whatsoever and even implying they do is just wank at it's finest.

They have intel on Pains abilities. Nagato can't even walk. Giving no side the advantage and starting Edo Nagato in frail mode and the Sannin in Base, they have a chance to beat him.

His focused CST was already used on Bee/Naruto/Itachi. They weren't hurt let alone one shotted.

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. If we recreate the scenario those 3 were in, the Sannin would win. Tsunade is being held by her soul. Jiraiya is being held by Chameleon after his Rasengan got absorbed. Orochimaru is being held by the Asura limb but this happens:

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. Orochimaru bites him with curse seal and he can no longer move his body period.

Then they kill him. I'm it saying that's exactly how this match will go down no matter what but based on your "he reels them in" argument, that's how it would.

 

[Beans2]

Nagato pastes them. Lol at "CST does absolutely nothing to orochimaru"

 

[Nattana]

Nagato pastes them. Lol at "CST does absolutely nothing to orochimaru"

Of course it does nothing. I suggest you go check Orochimaru vs Kyuubiruto. Also I assume this is current Orochimaru, which only makes it easier thanks to Hashirama DNA.

 

[Booker]

Of course it does nothing. I suggest you go check Orochimaru vs Kyuubiruto. Also I assume this is current Orochimaru, which only makes it easier thanks to Hashirama DNA.

>Comparing literally any feat from Oro v Naruto to a CST from Nagato

Lol

 

[Nattana]

>Comparing literally any feat from Oro v Naruto to a CST from Nagato

Lol

Orochimaru was

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on the distance of like a kilometer. 0 damage received with fodder body at the end of its lifespan. CST isn't doing shit to him, especially with 100% Hashi DNA body.

 

[Booker]

Orochimaru was

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on the distance of like a kilometer. 0 damage received with fodder body at the end of its lifespan. CST isn't doing shit to him, especially with 100% Hashi DNA body.

>Still comparing anything from Oro v Naruto to a CST

CST obliterated like a

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On top of that, the force behind that strike isn't even remotely comparable to being slapped with a CST, especially from point blank range.

Oh, and that was Pein that did that. Not the vastly superior Nagato.

Orochimaru gets absolutely trashed by CST. He could probably Oral Rebirth it, but he certainly isn't tanking it.

 

[Nattana]

>Still comparing anything from Oro v Naruto to a CST

CST obliterated like a

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On top of that, the force behind that strike isn't even remotely comparable to being slapped with a CST, especially from point blank range.

Oh, and that was Pein that did that. Not the vastly superior Nagato.

Orochimaru gets absolutely trashed by CST. He could probably Oral Rebirth it, but he certainly isn't tanking it.

All manga examples of blunt force being applied to Orochimaru prove that he cannot be 'killed' or even severely damaged by such attacks (Tsunade point-blank punches, mentioned KN3 strike etc.) I may have been too 'generous' saying Orochimaru receives 0 damage from CST, but I'm pretty sure he can tank it even without Oral Rebirth.

Also, who cares about square area CST covered? The thing that matters is the one, linear trajectory that would come in contact with Orochimaru.

 

[Booker]

All manga examples of blunt force being applied to Orochimaru prove that he cannot be 'killed' or even severely damaged by such attacks (Tsunade point-blank punches, mentioned KN3 strike etc.) I may have been too 'generous' saying Orochimaru receives 0 damage from CST, but I'm pretty sure he can tank it even without Oral Rebirth.

You mean examples that are severely weaker than CST?

@Bold Maybe in one of your wet dreams for Oro.

Also, who cares about square area CST covered? The thing that matters is the one, linear trajectory that would come in contact with Orochimaru.

The massive area demonstrates the massive amount of force behind CST that makes KN3 look like a toddler. More area = more force. A hand grenade and a nuclear bomb can both take out a cement wall, but the nuclear bomb is obviously much more powerful than the hand grenade. Naruto's strike doesn't even remotely match up to CST just because it knocked Orochimaru through some trees. You're grasping at straws.

 

[BLAZE]

I may have been too 'generous' saying Orochimaru receives 0 damage from CST, but I'm pretty sure he can tank it even without Oral Rebirth.

damn that cockroachimaru fiction

 

[KidGamer65]

They have intel on Pains abilities. Nagato can't even walk. Giving no side the advantage and starting Edo Nagato in frail mode and the Sannin in Base, they have a chance to beat him.

His focused CST was already used on Bee/Naruto/Itachi. They weren't hurt let alone one shotted.

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. If we recreate the scenario those 3 were in, the Sannin would win. Tsunade is being held by her soul. Jiraiya is being held by Chameleon after his Rasengan got absorbed. Orochimaru is being held by the Asura limb but this happens:

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. Orochimaru bites him with curse seal and he can no longer move his body period.

Then they kill him. I'm it saying that's exactly how this match will go down no matter what but based on your "he reels them in" argument, that's how it would.

Where did the Manga show Nagato using enough force to flatten a village on B, Naruto and Itachi? Lmao just use some common sense and you'd realize that Itachi, B and Naruto can't survive a force that can take out a village being sent in their direction. :lol Jesus Christ you have to be kidding me with this.

If you recreate that scenario Tsunade wouldn't be being held by her soul, it'd be gone a second after he laid her hand on him. KCM Naruto being able to tug on his soul doesn't mean that Tsunade is capable of doing so. Orochimaru wouldn't even be able to bite Nagato because Asura's armor would tank it unless Oro can bite through it, which he can't. Then we have the fact that in the Manga B was about to get his head blown off by Asura Path. So we can forget about Orochimaru being able to bite Nagato before Nagato can unleash his laser. Then we have the fact that this scenario literally has nothing to do with anything I said. Maybe if he were to reel them in altogether this would make sense, but if he picks them off one by one after reeling them in, one by one, a scenario where they are all surrounding him never ever happens.

Nagato uses Bashou Tenin and gets pierced by Kusanagi launched from Oro's mouth. CST does absolutely nothing to Orochimaru, much like any other blunt attack. Nagato making himself stationary to use ST or BT leaves himself open to sneaky attacks from underground. Summons are getting dealt with with poison (or stalled by Sannin summons) and the invisible one is countered by smell and temperature sensing. Human Path is never gonna work when there's 3 people around.

With such restrictions on Nagato, he isn't really that strong, considering that here he has to face 3 people out of whom 2 can tank ST like nothing and one can set up massive amout of sneaky attacks and backstabs.

No, Nagato uses Bansho Tennin, and when Orochimaru tries to hit him with Kusanagi he uses Asura's armor to block it and then rips Oro's soul straight out of his body. There is no poison shown in Orochimaru's arsenal that's capable of taking down Nagato's summons (or rather no poison shown at all IIRC :lol) and who told you that Nagato has to remain still when using BT or ST? That wasn't stated in the Manga or implied in the Manga. Nagato is also a sensor so there is no surprise attack these 3 can mount that he won't see coming.

CST doing nothing to Oro is probably the wildest thing I've heard in a while on this site. :lol Orochimaru isn't impervious to any type of damage. The only difference is that if it doesn't kill him outright he can Oral Rebirth to full health. CST has enough power to flatten a village. That power sent in Oro's direction turns him to paste. Not debatable. Can't you ever post in a thread involving Orochimaru without exposing how delusional you are? My God :lol

 

[Eng nawashi]

Nagato is too underrated. He stomps them effortlessly .

 

[Zexion~]

If a meteor with strong enough force to take out a village landed DIRECTLY next to Orochimaru (not getting hit by the meteor itself) would he tank that?

People underestimate CST just because there isn't a physical attribute to its force I swear lol.

 

[Nattana]

No, Nagato uses Bansho Tennin, and when Orochimaru tries to hit him with Kusanagi he uses Asura's armor to block it and then rips Oro's soul straight out of his body. There is no poison shown in Orochimaru's arsenal that's capable of taking down Nagato's summons (or rather no poison shown at all IIRC :lol) and who told you that Nagato has to remain still when using BT or ST? That wasn't stated in the Manga or implied in the Manga. Nagato is also a sensor so there is no surprise attack these 3 can mount that he won't see coming.

CST doing nothing to Oro is probably the wildest thing I've heard in a while on this site. :lol Orochimaru isn't impervious to any type of damage. The only difference is that if it doesn't kill him outright he can Oral Rebirth to full health. CST has enough power to flatten a village. That power sent in Oro's direction turns him to paste. Not debatable. Can't you ever post in a thread involving Orochimaru without exposing how delusional you are? My God :lol

Asura armor? Any feats or that thing that would suggest it can defend against something that damages diamond-like substances?

You can go check Databook for info about hidden snakes being poisonous. And current Oro's hidden snakes are the size of several human beings, meaning that it would be even easier to apply the poison than before.

Who cares if Nagato is sensory type, if clones during Mayfly cannot be sensed.

And while I agree I misjudged CST power at first, it's not a decisive factor in this match-up, since 2 out of 3 characters in the team can survive it and get back to work.

 

[KidGamer65]

Asura armor? Any feats or that thing that would suggest it can defend against something that damages diamond-like substances?

You can go check Databook for info about hidden snakes being poisonous. And current Oro's hidden snakes are the size of several human beings, meaning that it would be even easier to apply the poison than before.

Who cares if Nagato is sensory type, if clones during Mayfly cannot be sensed.

And while I agree I misjudged CST power at first, it's not a decisive factor in this match-up, since 2 out of 3 characters in the team can survive it and get back to work.

Asura being used by an inferior Pain body was capable of shielding Deva from Raikiri, which has feats that take a fat dump on anything Kusanagi has ever done.

Yeah, but is that poison strong enough to take down giant summons? That's what you've yet to prove. Regardless it doesn't really matter if he can defeat summons because they are only diversions.

What are you talking about? Since when could clones using Mayfly be unable to be sensed? While they are in the ground they can't be sensed, but after emerging they can be seen so saying that they can't be sensed makes zero sense nor is there anything supporting it.

And no. You are talking out of your rear. That is power that flattened a village. Nobody here tanks it. They get hit and then they die. Don't make claims you clearly can't support because I'm not going to just roll over and agree with you.