Kakashi vs Danzo

[KnightofDarkness]

Location Open Field
Distance 50m
Mindset IC
Knowledge Manga
Restrictions Kotoamatsukami, Kamui

This is War Arc Kakashi.

I know this is controversial, but I actually think a Kamui restricted War Arc Kakashi would win here. I will present my reasons if any person disagrees

 

[BenjerminGaye]

damzo wins. Take it from the biggest kakashi fanboy here.

 

[KnightofDarkness]

Okay, so after thinking it through I can definitely see Kakashi winning here.

Kakashi would likely figure out how Izanagi works.
considering he was able to deduce Tobi's Kamui after seeing it only twice.

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And Sharingan supposedly sees chakra. So he can definitely figure out Izanagi based on the chakra changes it creates in the body

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And I know Danzo can take him with a blindside attack after using Izanagi,
but it's not IC at all for him to do so. given he always talks and reveals himself

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And Kakashi is pretty fast in reactions and speed too. take a look

intercepting Sasuke's slash

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outspeeding Tobi and having him praise his speed

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and keeping up with gated gai (albeit briefly)

So he should very likely be able to keep up with Danzo and avoid his hits.
Now for Baku and his Futons.

Kakashi can simply put up Doryuheki, and go underground to avoid the effects of Futon.
Then come back up and bisect Baku with Raiden considering it sliced through V2 cloaks shit diff.
it cuts Baku in half with ease.

Not to mention Kakashi was fighting for a entire day against the 7 swordsmen and then went to assist naruto in
the war. And the only chakra boost he got was a mere Kyuubi cloak that was spread out over 1000s of shinobi.

Not seeing how Kakashi loses here.
however I will be happy to change my mind if the above points are countered

 

[Booker]

Kakashi is not stalling long enough for Izanagi to run out here.

Kakashi's best case scenario is if he goes on the offensive before Danzo has a chance to initiate Izanagi and go full tryhard. If he does that, and stuns Danzo with a Raiton clone or something, he wins.

But I doubt that happens since Izanagi can be activated in a very short period.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Okay, so after thinking it through I can definitely see Kakashi winning here.

Kakashi would likely figure out how Izanagi works.
considering he was able to deduce Tobi's Kamui after seeing it only twice.

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And Sharingan supposedly sees chakra. So he can definitely figure out Izanagi based on the chakra changes it creates in the body

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And I know Danzo can take him with a blindside attack after using Izanagi,
but it's not IC at all for him to do so. given he always talks and reveals himself

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And Kakashi is pretty fast in reactions and speed too. take a look

intercepting Sasuke's slash

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outspeeding Tobi and having him praise his speed

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and keeping up with gated gai (albeit briefly)

So he should very likely be able to keep up with Danzo and avoid his hits.
Now for Baku and his Futons.

Kakashi can simply put up Doryuheki, and go underground to avoid the effects of Futon.
Then come back up and bisect Baku with Raiden considering it sliced through V2 cloaks shit diff.
it cuts Baku in half with ease.

Not to mention Kakashi was fighting for a entire day against the 7 swordsmen and then went to assist naruto in
the war. And the only chakra boost he got was a mere Kyuubi cloak that was spread out over 1000s of shinobi.

Not seeing how Kakashi loses here.
however I will be happy to change my mind if the above points are countered

danzo does this:

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kakashi loses

only way kakashi wins is if danzo starts with the gauntlet on.

 

[EZQ]

Danzo wins. Kakashi's only shot is kamui.

 

[TheLostShinobi]

Like you said, in character Kakashi will win.

Danzo wins more times than not

 

[paksjr]

Danzo wins due to Izanagi BS, I don't see how Kakashi without Kamui can keep up with Danzo for about 10 minutes while Kakashi wastes his chakra taking shots that would kill pretty much anyone else.

 

[sayian]

Can' kakashi warp himself in the war arc?

 

[Oblivionx]

It'll be a good match up. Better than what most here are suggesting. Kakashi can last for 10 mins lol.this is war arch kakashi who fought for long periods of time even without cloak as OP mentioned. And i think he has reactions and agility >= MS sasuke. Plus he has experience. Same sasuke that killed danzo wasn't doing well against kakashi in cqc. Yes he was drained and all but strictly speaking in cqc, you don't need much chakra. and kakashi wasn't using his sharingan either. So it's pretty even match up that can go either way. Since war arc kakashi > MS sasuke in base skills.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

It'll be a good match up. Better than what most here are suggesting. Kakashi can last for 10 mins lol.this is war arch kakashi who fought for long periods of time even without cloak as OP mentioned. And i think he has reactions and agility >= MS sasuke. Plus he has experience. Same sasuke that killed danzo wasn't doing well against kakashi in cqc. Yes he was drained and all but strictly speaking in cqc, you don't need much chakra. and kakashi wasn't using his sharingan either. So it's pretty even match up that can go either way. Since war arc kakashi > MS sasuke in base skills.

sasuke only lasted as long as he did cuz he had susano to pressure danzo and deven himself from danzo's attacks.

Kakashi doesn't have that luxury.

 

[Oblivionx]

sasuke only lasted as long as he did cuz he had susano to pressure danzo and deven himself from danzo's attacks.

Kakashi doesn't have that luxury.

yeah i know that's why i mentioned kakashi's better agility and reactions. And since sasuke won, i said it'd be 50/50 for kakashi. Was just pointing out that kakashi will do better than sasuke did when he wasn't using susano. Plus kakashi can use bunshin feints too once or twice.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

yeah i know that's why i mentioned kakashi's better agility and reactions. And since sasuke won, i said it'd be 50/50 for kakashi. Was just pointing out that kakashi will do better than sasuke did when he wasn't using susano. Plus kakashi can use bunshin feints too once or twice.

Thats the thing, Sasuke used susanno 90%of the time. It was is primary pressuring tool for attack, and his primary defense. Kakashi doesn't have that luxury, or ability. Having better reactions really won't save him, if he lacks the ability to pressure danzo into using izanagi. then he's wasting chakra. If he manages it, then danzo ops for trading blows, puts the curse seal on kakashi, and kills him once it takes effect

 

[Oblivionx]

Thats the thing, Sasuke used susanno 90%of the time. It was is primary pressuring tool for attack, and his primary defense. Kakashi doesn't have that luxury, or ability. Having better reactions really won't save him, if he lacks the ability to pressure danzo into using izanagi. then he's wasting chakra. If he manages it, then danzo ops for trading blows, puts the curse seal on kakashi, and kills him once it takes effect

sasuke relied too much on susano. it was also partially due to him recently awakening MS. And also because he was emotional at the time. Doesn't mean one needs susano to pressure danzo now. Any attack that can kill a normal shinobi is enough to pressure danzo. You just have to kill him many times. Kakashi being a better strategist, would do better at devising a plan to make danzo keep spamming izanagi. And if we go by what you are saying, kakashi might kill danzo before he uses izanagi because kakashi is a proper shinobi unlike sasuke he doesn't rely on city level flashy techs. The strategy he used against pain and itachi, will kill danzo if he isn't using izanagi all the time. And about curse mark, if placed kakashi will surely lose but if placed. Like i said clone tricks. Underground tricks. Long distance and elemental tricks. Kakashi has a lot of tricks you see.

 

[KnightofDarkness]

sasuke relied too much on susano. it was also partially due to him recently awakening MS. And also because he was emotional at the time. Doesn't mean one needs susano to pressure danzo now. Any attack that can kill a normal shinobi is enough to pressure danzo. You just have to kill him many times. Kakashi being a better strategist, would do better at devising a plan to make danzo keep spamming izanagi. And if we go by what you are saying, kakashi might kill danzo before he uses izanagi because kakashi is a proper shinobi unlike sasuke he doesn't rely on city level flashy techs. The strategy he used against pain and itachi, will kill danzo if he isn't using izanagi all the time. And about curse mark, if placed kakashi will surely lose but if placed. Like i said clone tricks. Underground tricks. Long distance and elemental tricks. Kakashi has a lot of tricks you see.

This is true - Danzo even used Izanagi for shuriken lmao

 

[BLAZE]

sasuke relied too much on susano. it was also partially due to him recently awakening MS. And also because he was emotional at the time. Doesn't mean one needs susano to pressure danzo now. Any attack that can kill a normal shinobi is enough to pressure danzo. You just have to kill him many times. Kakashi being a better strategist, would do better at devising a plan to make danzo keep spamming izanagi. And if we go by what you are saying, kakashi might kill danzo before he uses izanagi because kakashi is a proper shinobi unlike sasuke he doesn't rely on city level flashy techs. The strategy he used against pain and itachi, will kill danzo if he isn't using izanagi all the time. And about curse mark, if placed kakashi will surely lose but if placed. Like i said clone tricks. Underground tricks. Long distance and elemental tricks. Kakashi has a lot of tricks you see.

how is kakashi taking out baku without kamui for starters

 

[KnightofDarkness]

how is kakashi taking out baku without kamui for starters

Kakashi can simply put up Doryuheki, and go underground to avoid the effects of Futon.
Then come back up and bisect Baku with Raiden considering it sliced through V2 cloaks shit diff.
it cuts Baku in half with ease.

 

[BLAZE]

Kakashi can simply put up Doryuheki, and go underground to avoid the effects of Futon.

Lml Baku's suction was tearing out rocks from the bridge [

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] and you think he will counter it via Doton wall

Then come back up and bisect Baku with Raiden considering it sliced through V2 cloaks shit diff.
it cuts Baku in half with ease.

Danzo won't let him.Giant Vaccum bullet [

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] would would blow away kakashi along with his raiden


there is also the fact baku is far larger than the lightning chain.Baku's head compared to v3 susanoo and sasuke [

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its whole body compared to v3 susanoo [

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[KnightofDarkness]

Lml Baku's suction was tearing out rocks from the bridge [

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] and you think he will counter it via Doton wall

In that exact same scan you posted it showed Karin literally staying safe from it. :lol
And I stated he only needs to hold the wall up for a couple seconds so he can go underground to escape it.

Danzo won't let him.Giant Vaccum bullet [

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] or vaccum blast barrage [

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] would would blow away kakashi along with his raiden


there is also the fact baku is far larger than the lightning chain.Baku's head compared to v3 susanoo and sasuke [

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its whole body compared to v3 susanoo [

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I meant if Kakashi appeared under Baku.
He can jump upwards to slice him with Raiden.

Now that I think of it another option is countering it similar to how Sasuke countered it by shooting a Katon.
Kakashi can form a Suiton so that when Baku sucks it in it drowns.

 

[BLAZE]

In that exact same scan you posted it showed Karin literally staying safe from it. :lol
And I stated he only needs to hold the wall up for a couple seconds so he can go underground to escape it.

The structure behind which karin is hiding is far larger than V3 Susanoo[it is standing on it] let alone kakashi's doton wall.A part of it is still getting sucked away in same scan

I meant if Kakashi appeared under Baku.
He can jump upwards to slice him with Raiden.

Baku's body is far larger than the size of lightning chain kakashi has shown

Now that I think of it another option is countering it similar to how Sasuke countered it by shooting a Katon.
Kakashi can form a Suiton so that when Baku sucks it in it drowns.

What the hell.Do you even know why Sasuke's katon worked.Becoz wind feeds fire
the reason katon>>>fuuton