Restricted Itachi vs Hidan

[Exaar]

One would think they'd rather Hidan down than Kakuzu losing one out of his five hearts lol.......

Even if they downed Hidan, Unless it was with Kakashi's kamui, What's stopping Kakuzu stalling with his hearts and repairing any damage done to hidan?. Which would leave kakashi nothing left to deal with Kakuzu and shikamaru's team sure as hell couldn't deal with him.

If kakashi really wanted to put him down he would've use Kamui or Put raiton on his kunai or any other of his offensive techniques.

He wanted Hidan to go down but he wanted to save the majority of his chakra/techniques for Kakuzu and needed to keep a bit more back in case shikamaru's team got in trouble also, The plan was for Shikamaru to deal with him, allowing kakashi to focus most of his strength onto kakuzu without him wasting to much and tiring on Hidan.

Downing hidan is useless if kakuzu is there to repair the damage or if they haven't the strength to fight him after hidan's down

 

[BLAZE]

uNLESS it's filler I sware kakashi said hidan was not a threat to him at all but kakuzu he was concerned with. itachi low diffs

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[Zexion~]

Even if they downed Hidan, Unless it was with Kakashi's kamui, What's stopping Kakuzu stalling with his hearts and repairing any damage done to hidan?. Which would leave kakashi nothing left to deal with Kakuzu and shikamaru's team sure as hell couldn't deal with him.

If kakashi really wanted to put him down he would've use Kamui or Put raiton on his kunai or any other of his offensive techniques.

He wanted Hidan to go down but he wanted to save the majority of his chakra/techniques for Kakuzu and needed to keep a bit more back in case shikamaru's team got in trouble also, The plan was for Shikamaru to deal with him, allowing kakashi to focus most of his strength onto kakuzu without him wasting to much and tiring on Hidan.

Downing hidan is useless if kakuzu is there to repair the damage or if they haven't the strength to fight him after hidan's down

Bro how much strength is engaging in full out CQC going to take? He still used Raikiri multiple times after Hidan first initiated combat so unless you people are saying that Kakashi stamina is so low any advance to counter Hidan's CQC strikes would tire him out enough to change the entire outcome of a battle than this argument is clear conjecture lol and nothing more to it.

Its insane these arguments can only be used against Hidan but never for. There was no gurantee that plan was going to work also so using it as an argument for Kakashi not being able to strike Hidan is the usual desperate showing to not give Hidan any props in the one thing he's decent at.

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Lol no where does he say Hidan is weak, he says Kakuzu is stronger but both are strong lol as I said earlier.

 

[BLAZE]

Lol no where does he say Hidan is weak, he says Kakuzu is stronger but both are strong lol as I said earlier.

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[BenjerminGaye]

One would think they'd rather Hidan down than Kakuzu losing one out of his five hearts lol......

Given the fact that shikamaru's plan eliminates both hidan and one of kakuzu's hearts again i ask why do you want kakashi to do the illogical.

Bro how much strength is engaging in full out CQC going to take? He still used Raikiri multiple times after Hidan first initiated combat so unless you people are saying that Kakashi stamina is so low any advance to counter Hidan's CQC strikes would tire him out enough to change the entire outcome of a battle than this argument is clear conjecture lol and nothing more to it.

Le above, wasting unnecessary chakra on hidan is redundant. If he dismembers hidan then and there kakazu still has 4 hearts, kakashi has less chakra and hidan's body is still in the vicinity running the risk of kakazu putting hidan back together. You know, what kakuzu did the first time.

Its insane these arguments can only be used against Hidan but never for. There was no gurantee that plan was going to work also so using it as an argument for Kakashi not being able to strike Hidan is the usual desperate showing to not give Hidan any props in the one thing he's decent at.

Shikamaru's plan no only separates the zombie duo reducing team combo to 0, it also eliminates the possibility of kakazu stitching hidan back together whilst, destroying one of kakuzu's hearts.

It's not insane the fact of the matter is the alternatives youre suggesting is simply nowhere near as efficient as shikamaru's plan. It's a slap in the face to shikamaru's intellect to suggest that kakashi shouldn't follow the plan and instead do something that's inferior than what shikamaru planned for.


And he isn't decent at it, he sucks. His own admission.

 

[Zexion~]

Given the fact that shikamaru's plan eliminates both hidan and one of kakuzu's hearts again i ask why do you want kakashi to do the illogical.



Le above, wasting unnecessary chakra on hidan is redundant. If he dismembers hidan then and there kakazu still has 4 hearts, kakashi has less chakra and hidan's body is still in the vicinity running the risk of kakazu putting hidan back together. You know, what kakuzu did the first time.


Shikamaru's plan no only separates the zombie duo reducing team combo to 0, it also eliminates the possibility of kakazu stitching hidan back together whilst, destroying one of kakuzu's hearts.

It's not insane the fact of the matter is the alternatives youre suggesting is simply nowhere near as efficient as shikamaru's plan. It's a slap in the face to shikamaru's intellect to suggest that kakashi shouldn't follow the plan and instead do something that's inferior than what shikamaru planned for.


And he isn't decent at it, he sucks. His own admission.

Lol you make good points except for the fact that the plan clearly was not fully thought out, and if you recall the fact of having Hidan take out a heart was not the do all end all. Kakashi had no clue Kakuzu would survive the first ambush so right from there logically no plan should have been made.

He also had no idea how to go about separating the zombie duo and needed a 10 minute discussion about doing so first lol which logically means no plan was being utilized and taking out Hidan should still have been a priority.

May not be in official translation but he even asks "what is the plan"

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the blood capsule was only if they could get the two separated and when Kakashi engaged him in CQC he wasn't sure if it was going to be achieved and logically should have tried to take down Hidan.

 

[Zexion~]

?????? learn to read
i said the bold

Learn to type I assumed you just misspelt "yup" because no where have I ever seen anyone say "nup"

 

[BLAZE]

Learn to type I assumed you just misspelt "yup" because no where have I ever seen anyone say "nup"

Then don't assume :lol

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol you make good points except for the fact that the plan clearly was not fully thought out, and if you recall the fact of having Hidan take out a heart was not the do all end all. Kakashi had no clue Kakuzu would survive the first ambush so right from there logically no plan should have been made.

He also had no idea how to go about separating the zombie duo and needed a 10 minute discussion about doing so first lol which logically means no plan was being utilized and taking out Hidan should still have been a priority.

May not be in official translation but he even asks "what is the plan"

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the blood capsule was only if they could get the two separated and when Kakashi engaged him in CQC he wasn't sure if it was going to be achieved and logically should have tried to take down Hidan.

Nope, It was the plan from the beginning to use kakazu's blood for hidan's ritual, i't didn't matter who got the blood, meaning any of the 4 could have acquired the blood and kakazu's death has no factor on the initial plan.:

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And that's an official translation.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Why make a debate thread when you've already decided your opinion?

 

[Zexion~]

Nope, It was the plan from the beginning to use kakazu's blood for hidan's ritual, i't didn't matter who got the blood, meaning any of the 4 could have acquired the blood and kakazu's death has no factor on the initial plan.:

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And that's an official translation.

I know it was a plan from the beginning but it only had a beginning and an end. Kakashi had no idea if it was ever going to come to fruition so why he wouldn't try and take out Hidan himself (which he did after ambushing Kakuzu) makes no sense lol especially since he didn't give the blood capsule until after both the Hidan interactions.

 

[Zexion~]

Then don't assume :lol

Type understandable words :lol

 

[BLAZE]

Type understandable words :lol

how about you stop quoting me and go back to wank piss poor feats of hidan :lol

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[BenjerminGaye]

I know it was a plan from the beginning but it only had a beginning and an end.

what are talking about. The middle is kakashi giving the capule to shikamaru.

The plan is simple:

Get kakazu's blood (any of the 4 can do this as he stated)

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Give it to shikamaru
Use blood to trick hidan's ritual.

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Kakashi had no idea if it was ever going to come to fruition so why he wouldn't try and take out Hidan himself (which he did after ambushing Kakuzu) makes no sense lol especially since he didn't give the blood capsule until after both the Hidan interactions.

That isn't true. As the above scan states he was prepare for multiple variations of the initial plan. Given the fact that hidan was still immobilized by shadow possession when kakashi attempted to kill him it can easily be argued that it was also apart of shikamaru's plan further backed up by shikamaru himself prompting kakashi to attack, given the time sensitivity of his jutsu.

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[Zexion~]

how about you stop quoting me and go back to wank piss poor feats of hidan :lol

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The day you never interact with me on this site again is the day I'll gladly leave you alone lol.

what are talking about. The middle is kakashi giving the capule to shikamaru.

The plan is simple:

Get kakazu's blood (any of the 4 can do this as he stated)

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Give it to shikamaru
Use blood to trick hidan's ritual.

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That isn't true. As the above scan states he was prepare for multiple variations of the initial plan. Given the fact that hidan was still immobilized by shadow possession when kakashi attempted to kill him it can easily be argued that it was also apart of shikamaru's plan further backed up by shikamaru himself prompting kakashi to attack, given the time sensitivity of his jutsu.

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Bro lol this is incredibly silly to hype up Kakashi, while some of your points make sense others don't like when you say that trying to chop off a limb or his head would take that much more chakra, or that you have Kakashi completely relying on a plan he hasn't set in motion yet lol again he had no clue how to separate Hidan from Kakuzu.

If Kakashi had the opportunity to take out Hidan he would have done so, and then all 4 of them focusing on Kakuzu would have been much simpler than leaving it up to fate that Shikamaru succeeds with the plan.

 

[BLAZE]

The day you never interact with me on this site again is the day I'll gladly leave you alone lol..

what you are one who quoted me smh

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Bro lol this is incredibly silly to hype up Kakashi, while some of your points make sense others don't like when you say that trying to chop off a limb or his head would take that much more chakra, or that you have Kakashi completely relying on a plan he hasn't set in motion yet lol again he had no clue how to separate Hidan from Kakuzu.

@bold. Not hyping up kakashi, at underline, not only would it take more chakra, but for the last time it would be pointless.

Kakazu would simply do this:

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and they'd be back to square 1.

If Kakashi had the opportunity to take out Hidan he would have done so, and then all 4 of them focusing on Kakuzu would have been much simpler than leaving it up to fate that Shikamaru succeeds with the plan.

i already explained why that makes 0 sense.

 

[Zexion~]

what you are one who quoted me smh

Don't read my posts mongrel

@bold. Not hyping up kakashi, at underline, not only would it take more chakra, but for the last time it would be pointless.

Kakazu would simply do this:

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and they'd be back to square 1.



i already explained why that makes 0 sense.

Lol what? Kakashi could take the head himself if that were what he were worried about, you're reading way too much into this. Kishi obviously demonstrated Hidan's CQC skills on Asuma and Kakashi and even Kakuzu was retreating when he was controlled by Shikamaru (he'd have no problem pounding his ass).

 

[Hakke]

well , Itachi is more skilled (in everything), he can just cut Hidan head off without breaking a sweat

 

[BLAZE]

Don't read my posts mongrel

take your own advice zombie d rider