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In high school, there is a page about why the giraffe has a long neck. People thought that they kept using their neck to eat leaves and that passed the genes. Kinda like what you said about working out and studying a lot. That way of thinking was proven wrong.

Why are African Americans so good at sports? Let's be real, they experienced generations after generations of artificial breeding. This started when the united states banned importing and slave masters got into selling children. Only strong men were around, since they had to work the field. So the genetic pool was specified into the perfect field worker. The same way dog breeders do it today to get that special look for a dog to sell well.

Any group that experiences natural selection will give offspring that fit their environment.

If genetic modification is as simple (it will be of course) as switching on and off genes (alleles), enhanced muscle and physical genes will be able to be activated. But i think you already mentioned before, it's already present in our dna. The idea is to remove bad genes that get in the way of the beneficial genes.

A side point, if you guys have heard of the silver fox experiments, you will know that physical traits are linked to behavioral traits. So you would expect it to be the other way around. However, we have not seen these untold consequences (as in results) of what happens when you alter physical traits of a human for generations after generations.

Genetic modification is the future. I'm not going to protest. Humans are outside of nature because we can identify it and work around it. But diversity needs to be a thing. Specialization will doom our species. Bananas are one virus threat away from being wiped out because they are all clones of each other.

"Outside of nature"? Could you possibly sound more absurd and delusional in that statement? Medication for the profits of one's own health is not the mechanics of "working around nature", it's a normal solution for the sake of survival. It's like farm Dogs eat special herbs in order to cleanse internal parasites in their digestive system. Genetic modification is no different.
 

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"Outside of nature"? Could you possibly sound more absurd and delusional in that statement? Medication for the profits of one's own health is not the mechanics of "working around nature", it's a normal solution for the sake of survival. It's like farm Dogs eat special herbs in order to cleanse internal parasites in their digestive system. Genetic modification is no different.

cuss apparently the minerals and herbs that make up pills/medication are apart of the earth but isn't apart of nature. lmfao. Vanity at its finest.
 

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"Outside of nature"? Could you possibly sound more absurd and delusional in that statement? Medication for the profits of one's own health is not the mechanics of "working around nature", it's a normal solution for the sake of survival. It's like farm Dogs eat special herbs in order to cleanse internal parasites in their digestive system. Genetic modification is no different.

Are you saying humans have not gotten rid of the need to find an equilibrium with the earth? Like every other species in the planet. We will always be bound by biology but we are able to control it. Or do you not see what artificial fertilizer has done to the world. Removing natural waves of epidemics because we thought ahead.

I'm not familiar with farm dog naturally finding and cultivating special herbs. Can you explain how they do it?

Synthetic just means we made it. We did what nature does but we do it in a lab. There is absolutely no difference. Like lab made diamonds and natural diamonds. Except no one had to be forced to dig it up.
 

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Can create a clone of yourself instead right ? it will be closely identical to you .
 

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Are you saying humans have not gotten rid of the need to find an equilibrium with the earth? Like every other species in the planet. We will always be bound by biology but we are able to control it. Or do you not see what artificial fertilizer has done to the world. Removing natural waves of epidemics because we thought ahead.

I'm not familiar with farm dog naturally finding and cultivating special herbs. Can you explain how they do it?

Synthetic just means we made it. We did what nature does but we do it in a lab. There is absolutely no difference. Like lab made diamonds and natural diamonds. Except no one had to be forced to dig it up.

Cultivating special herbs? No , how do you even read? They simply smell the sent of those herbs/plant and eat it when they need to deparasite themself.

And you're telling me that creating diamonds are no different than a living human? You are a embarrassment for nature.
 

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Cultivating special herbs? No , how do you even read? They simply smell the sent of those herbs/plant and eat it when they need to deparasite themself.

And you're telling me that creating diamonds are no different than a living human? You are a embarrassment for nature.

The point about the herbs was that from the articles I read, they do not naturally consume these herbs. Humans have to feed it to them. You see how humanity has interfered with the natural law and adjusted it to fit our needs to have a healthy dog. The dog has no belief in wanting to be healthy. We force it upon it.

Who are you to say that eventually creating humans is not as simple as following a set instructions. Diamond are just carbon, heat and pressure. Obviously humans are more complex but that doesn't mean it will be impossible.

if two dummies can have a baby, you don't think eventually a scientist will make one artificially. You just need to know the "recipe" and news flash! We are basically there. We just need the ethicists to get off ther backs.
 

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The point about the herbs was that from the articles I read, they do not naturally consume these herbs. Humans have to feed it to them. You see how humanity has interfered with the natural law and adjusted it to fit our needs to have a healthy dog. The dog has no belief in wanting to be healthy. We force it upon it.

Who are you to say that eventually creating humans is not as simple as following a set instructions. Diamond are just carbon, heat and pressure. Obviously humans are more complex but that doesn't mean it will be impossible.

if two dummies can have a baby, you don't think eventually a scientist will make one artificially. You just need to know the "recipe" and news flash! We are basically there. We just need the ethicists to get off ther backs.

> Humans have interfered with the natural law.
>AND adjusted it.

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Humans have to feed it to them? How exactly do you think the canis family survived on their own before our coming?. These plants grow naturally, but if my doubts are correct then this is not the case all over the world.

And for the second part, you are insane. I doubt you're even human. That amount of stupidity is far too much for one single home sapien to contain, even i can't force you to cleanse the insanity. Or could it be that you are from the stone age?
 

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Neat. Gonna make mine look like Joseph Carey Merrick.
 

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No it is not wrong, it is evident that we humans have ascended to higher heights in knowledge and technology, we have surpassed our predecessors.

no, haha, absolutely not. faaar from it ;)
 

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Of course so you think that those scientist opinions are more worthy than mine? Ironic.

So it's Change in general huh?, are you so obsessed with change that you seek for an flawless breed? The human essence is unique because they can change themself on their own. Individually speaking that is.Mankind can advance in medical treatments and research the human body all they want , but this change is just rebudant and insanity.


I wouldn't say I'm obsessed, nor did I say genetic modification will produce a flawless breed, I'm acknowledging the capabilities genetic modification has to offer to humanity. You say humanity is unique in because it can change itself, which it can, and it would if we hadn't developed societies, science, and medication that remove the need for humans to adapt and evolve. Lets take a step down from the sci-fi realm of perfect super humans and green haired people, and look at the facts.

Right now the science of G.M. is being used in gene therapy to cure ailments like cancer and AIDS with high succession rates. Though the science is fairly new, gene therapy for cancer patients were approved by the national health association late last year. In the same way doctors can perform screening on embryos for defects, diseases and gender, doctors will be able to use the science of G.M (specifically CRISPR) to go into the embryo, and edited it so the child isn't born with ex. color blindness, or down-syndrome, preventing an unnecessary abortion. The science of G.M is currently in testing to be used as a form of reversing agent from people who suffer from muscular dystrophy and various other birth defects. There's currently no cure for things like DMD, ALS, but from the experiments scientists have had, they've been able to successfully reverse the effects of DMD in mice.

The positives of genetic modification outweigh the negatives by a ton, not to mention most of the negatives are slippery slope fears people have when they think genetic modification. It's the same as when people think about A.I. robotics, and jump to skynet and terminators. I'm not saying it's impossible that one day G.M. could lead to a perfect super human species, it's just the science for that is decades away from now, arguably even centuries.

EDIT: And yes, the opinions of scientists are more worthy than yours.
 
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