Customize your own Baby

[Nobel]

No it's not. If I can choose for my baby to have blue eyes, it's still real because that baby can only have blue eyes because of me or it's mother, I can't select traits for the baby that I myself or it's mother do not have.

Stopping a child from inheriting a painful disease isn't toying with life, it's the same thing as curing the disease.

That's not customizing a child it's just ordinary medical treament. Duplicating the works of nature to your advantage is a naive and childish delusion ,it will only give birth to fake and ugly descendants.

New Life is not supposed to take shape by our will, it just happens and transforms in the randomness of nature.

That's your opinion. Scientist and geneticists refer to genetic modification as an evolution. Even trans-humanism, the process in which science and technology is integrated into human biology is referred to as a type of evolution. Yes, the change that causes the evolution is manufactured and artificial, but that doesn't make any less evolution than primates evolving into humans. Evolution is not concerned with the catalyst, but the change itself.

Of course so you think that those scientist opinions are more worthy than mine? Ironic.

So it's Change in general huh?, are you so obsessed with change that you seek for an flawless breed? The human essence is unique because they can change themself on their own. Individually speaking that is.Mankind can advance in medical treatments and research the human body all they want , but this change is just rebudant and insanity.

 

[whiteboy2345]

That's not customizing a child it's just ordinary medical treament. Duplicating the works of nature to your advantage is a naive and childish delusion ,it will only give birth to fake and ugly descendants.

New Life is not supposed to take shape by our will, it just happens and transforms in the randomness of nature.

How are they fake if the traits are in their genes to begin with? A person's traits are only what their genetic make-up is.

 

[Yeah right]

Is it wrong to do that?

If you chose weight training as your elective four years in a row in High School and developed a lot of physical strength, played brain games every night to sharpen your intelligence, and just happened to be born attractive, is it wrong to want your child to inherit all the traits you worked for and or were born with?

I'm assuming you are still in high school since you said teacher, not professor. That is not how inheritance works. You doing all that stuff is not going to change your offspring. If you think you have good genes, you can breed with someone who has good genes but everything you do after you are born is just using the genes already active. I thought you would learn by now that the individual doesn't experience evolution but the group does.

Will perfect babies spread worldwide? Only if they breed. But wouldn't you just need to to alter one generation if it is inhertable. Like they do with mosquitoes.

 

[whiteboy2345]

I'm assuming you are still in high school since you said teacher, not professor. That is not how inheritance works. You doing all that stuff is not going to change your offspring. If you think you have good genes, you can breed with someone who has good genes but everything you do after you are born is just using the genes already active. I thought you would learn by now that the individual doesn't experience evolution but the group does.

Will perfect babies spread worldwide? Only if they breed. But wouldn't you just need to to alter one generation if it is inhertable. Like they do with mosquitoes.

So how would you suggest that genes for enhanced muscles and physical strength comes into play. Only after generations of strong people breeding?

 

[Nobel]

How are they fake if the traits are in their genes to begin with? A person's traits are only what their genetic make-up is.

hahaha, you appear to distrust the true works of nature. A fake organism is defined as artifically modified before being created, in other words it was not produced within the belly of the female automatically. In the end your descendants could aswell be a dissapointment in contrast to what it would really look like. You only ruin the suprise.

Honestly it would be a waste of time aswell , that would take several ages to develop and the process to alter these genes are no ordinary tasks. Nevertheless, i belive it's okay to do genetic modification but after the child is born. And as far i'm conscerned, mankind has not researched the human body well enough and is neither fully aware of it's secrets.

 

[Оdin]

Nature knows best... let it run its course or you will eventually suffer the consequences for messing with it.

 

[whiteboy2345]

hahaha, you appear to distrust the true works of nature. A fake organism is defined as artifically modified before being created, in other words it was not produced within the belly of the female automatically. In the end your descendants could aswell be a dissapointment in contrast to what it would really look like. You only ruin the suprise.

Honestly it would be a waste of time aswell , that would take several ages to develop and the process to alter these genes are no ordinary tasks. Nevertheless, i belive it's okay to do genetic modification but after the child is born. And as far i'm conscerned, mankind has not researched the human body well enough and is neither fully aware of it's secrets.

Choosing the eye color of a baby by using it's own DNA which belongs to them doesn't seem to match your description of a fake organism. Nothing about it is fake, you're simply choosing which trait shows and which doesn't.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Nature knows best... let it run its course or you will eventually suffer the consequences for messing with it.

Does this work in all situations? As in diseases that are inherited through genetics?

Why do you think humanity should submit to nature?

 

[Nobel]

Choosing the eye color of a baby by using it's own DNA which belongs to them doesn't seem to match your description of a fake organism. Nothing about it is fake, you're simply choosing which trait shows and which doesn't.

It's fake, a trait may be a trait but nature always selects the most graced and fit quality for that child, it's a automated process for one reason so the greedy humans dont have to complicate their existence any further. If you desire the removal of an genetic disease then it's only reasonable to do that after the child is born, let mankind struggle in their search for finding cures and remedy for future epidemi and strife, they will always find one and continue to heal sick earthlings like they always do.

 

[YellowFang]

Good luck with that, I'm sure when humans try to play god, the outcome isn't very nice.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Is it wrong to do that?

If you chose weight training as your elective four years in a row in High School and developed a lot of physical strength, played brain games every night to sharpen your intelligence, and just happened to be born attractive, is it wrong to want your child to inherit all the traits you worked for and or were born with?

My Biology teacher at school was talking about how terrible it would be if everyone could make their own super-baby.

yes. Its wrong.

 

[Nobel]

Good luck with that, I'm sure when humans try to play god, the outcome isn't very nice.

Well, "god" said to have created humans in his image. So i wonder how much it likes to play.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Genetic variation is the engine of life. Always has been always will be. Selection whether it be to plants or animals has always led to defects or viruses that end up endangering the entire stock simply because they're all the same.

 

[whiteboy2345]

It's fake, a trait may be a trait but nature always selects the most graced and fit quality for that child, it's a automated process for one reason so the greedy humans dont have to complicate their existence any further. If you desire the removal of an genetic disease then it's only reasonable to do that after the child is born, let mankind struggle in their search for finding cures and remedy for future epidemi and strife, they will always find one and continue to heal sick earthlings like they always do.

What if the child inherits cancer? Should he be forced to suffer years of chemo when he it can simply be removed before birth?

 

[Оdin]

Does this work in all situations? As in diseases that are inherited through genetics?

Why do you think humanity should submit to nature?

The more you save now the faster the world becomes overpopulated by humans, and that is causing bigger damage to us and other species than anything else. Overpopulation comes with less forests, less food, more poverty, and more and stronger diseases that spread faster and kill faster simply because that's how nature wills it. Forcing our survival will only lead to our demise quicker than if we just let nature do its own thing.

 

[Nobel]

What if the child inherits cancer? Should he be forced to suffer years of chemo when he it can simply be removed before birth?

That's the point of existing, you are born with the right to die but the right to live is only earned. Differents kind of Cancer will easily be vanquished in future generations, And i'm not talking about 100 years but in fact very..soon.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Does this work in all situations? As in diseases that are inherited through genetics?

Why do you think humanity should submit to nature?

why do you think your above nature?

[video=youtube;sMvWwlh8CH8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMvWwlh8CH8&t=134s[/video]

take a load off.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

why do you think your above nature?

[video=youtube;sMvWwlh8CH8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMvWwlh8CH8&t=134s[/video]

take a load off.

My God, that was f*cking beautiful!

I'm sure OP can learn a lot from this video regarding the topic.

 

[Nobel]

why do you think your above nature?

[video=youtube;sMvWwlh8CH8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMvWwlh8CH8&t=134s[/video]

take a load off.

He is a part of nature, thus he can't possibly think he is superior to it. It's just the greedy everyday nonsense we get to hear.

Nice video, hahaha.

 

[Yeah right]

So how would you suggest that genes for enhanced muscles and physical strength comes into play. Only after generations of strong people breeding?

In high school, there is a page about why the giraffe has a long neck. People thought that they kept using their neck to eat leaves and that passed the genes. Kinda like what you said about working out and studying a lot. That way of thinking was proven wrong.

Why are African Americans so good at sports? Let's be real, they experienced generations after generations of artificial breeding. This started when the united states banned importing and slave masters got into selling children. Only strong men were around, since they had to work the field. So the genetic pool was specified into the perfect field worker. The same way dog breeders do it today to get that special look for a dog to sell well.

Any group that experiences natural selection will give offspring that fit their environment.

If genetic modification is as simple (it will be of course) as switching on and off genes (alleles), enhanced muscle and physical genes will be able to be activated. But i think you already mentioned before, it's already present in our dna. The idea is to remove bad genes that get in the way of the beneficial genes.

A side point, if you guys have heard of the silver fox experiments, you will know that physical traits are linked to behavioral traits. So you would expect it to be the other way around. However, we have not seen these untold consequences (as in results) of what happens when you alter physical traits of a human for generations after generations.

Genetic modification is the future. I'm not going to protest. Humans are outside of nature because we can identify it and work around it. But diversity needs to be a thing. Specialization will doom our species. Bananas are one virus threat away from being wiped out because they are all clones of each other.