Debunking claims that Chidori spear>>>>>Rasenshuriken.

[Detonator99]

Oh boy... I know that i am going to get hate for this, but hey! If the creator himself pointed this out to me then i don't see any reason as to why not address this feat, Witch is the feat where sasuke cuts juubidara in half meanwhile a rasenshuriken was only able to wound him.

First of all in order to understand my point of view we need to try and understand how is that the durabilitys of naruto characters works (this is a very long explanation so bare it with me if you want to understand how it works).

Naruto characters durabilitys explained

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as we know naruto characters aren't constantly using chakra.

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^ As the above chart shows and explains, chakra is something that is consciously created for the use of Ninjutus or Genjutsu. Various showings through the series confirm this. just to use a couple:

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Naruto building up chakra to use the Summoning jutsu, but getting that chakra absorbed by Kisame, conclusion : "I can't feel any chakra".

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Tobirama discussing the village's future with Hashirama, but not realizing that Madara was spying on them, reason : "I'm not kneading any chakra"

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A more practical display of this comes from the Byakugan vision. For instance.

Neji's body while not using chakra and when using chakra :

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And pretty much after you build up your chakra you can choose what are you going to do with it, as for use ninjutsu,genjutsu or enhance your phisicall capacitys as your durability streng, speed etc.
That logic also aplys to people who enter on diferent states of transformation, such as sage mode, chakra mode and more.

There is many examples for this.
Example #1

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Naruto stabs himself with pains rods

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Even through way after he was able to block it on sage.

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Reason: naruto wanted to find pain so he din't enhanced his body.

Example #2

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Obito gets hurt by a kunai

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even thou he Was shown to block the sword of the seven swords-men with his bare hands(without any damage)

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Reason: he got blitzed by minato, so he din't had time enhance his physical body.

Example #3

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Kaguya's gets her arm sliced just by naruto's kyubi hands

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Even through right after kaguya was able tank naruto most powerfull cutting attacks without having phisicals damage.

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Reason: Naruto straight up blitzed kaguya without giving her time to react and enhance herself.

Example #4

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Naruto gets stabed by sasuke's kusanagis sword.

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kinshiki tanked that sword

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Momoshiki tanked that sword

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Yet rsm was able to injure a fusion between momoshiki and kinshiki with just an elbow jab.

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Why would both of them tank it and not rsm naruto who had the superior body?
Reason is because naruto had been caught of guard.

Example #5

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Madara with hashirama's sage and juubi's chakra getting stabbed by sasuke kusangi sword.

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Even trough weaker people Then madara have been showed to tank that sword easily.
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Kabuto

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Reason to why madara got stabed?
he wanted to stop sasuke and convince him to join his side
and juubi jin madara was caught of guard by sasuke amenotejikara

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In conclusion: naruto characters can get harmed or if they get caught off guard or allow it.

Now moving on to the subject, what i am saying is that the reason why sasuke was able to cut madara clean in half with his chidori spear was because madara alowed it... I would say that the reason as to why he cut him down was because he was blitzed by sasuke giving him no time to react but the issue is that madara was able to spot sasuke and state that "he was very fast" while running towards him.

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But of course thats still not enough reason to claim that he allowed to be cuted down and scape to another dimension since the reason would probably be that he was trying to tank it and failed to, but the truly reason why i think he allowed to get cut was because madara was shown to tank a piercing attack far worse, witch is the chidori.

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Witch is stated by the author himself to be far more powerfull then the chidori spear.

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And its seems plausible that madara would be able to tank the chidori since naruto was also able to tank it.

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In conclusion the chidori spear is actually weaker,witch is pretty obvious since.

Rasenshuriken>>>>>>Rasengan=Chidori>>>>>>chidori spear.


Thanks for reading.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

RS failed to bisect Madara but chopped the tree:

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Black Chidori and RSM Rasengan were tanked:

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Chidori spear negged:

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Not necessarily stronger but more concentrated.

That's all you need to know.

 

[SenseiSama]

They're equal, chidori spear does as much damage as RS

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[Detonator99]

RS failed to bisect Madara but chopped the tree:

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Black Chidori and RSM Rasengan were tanked:

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Chidori spear negged:

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Not necessarily stronger but more concentrated.

That's all you need to know.

Did you even read my thread? :lol
The chidori spear is less concentraded then the actual chidori, your damage is showing.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Did you even read my thread? :lol
The chidori spear is less concentraded then the actual chidori, your damage is showing.

Madara tanked Black chidori, but somehow regular chidori is stronger than chidori spear, which beicected Madara right? :lol

Great logic mate. :elmo:

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Man everybody knows that :

Rasenshuriken > Rasengan > Chidori > Chidori sharp spear

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

They're equal, chidori spear does as much damage as RS

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Only in movies where other people contributed to final result and movies have different laws from manga.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

FRS is obviously stronger. The reason Madara didn't get slashed in two is because his body was in the air and thus offered very little resistance to the FRS's expansion. Thus he got pushed back instead by the FRS's outward expanding force. If he were on a solid footing like the tree next to him, he'd be the in the same condition as the tree.

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[SenseiSama]

Man everybody knows that :

Rasenshuriken > Rasengan > Chidori > Chidori sharp spear

Wait, since when has there been two different versions of chidori ?

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Or we could simply say its Kishi inconstancy.

 

[Detonator99]

Madara tanked Black chidor,i but somehow regular chidori is stronger than chidori spear, which beicected Madara right? :lol

Great logic mate. :elmo:

It wouldn't kill you if you read the thread you know... Or would it?

Anyway, kishi>>>>>>You

Stay in denial.

 

[SenseiSama]

FRS is obviously stronger. The reason Madara didn't get slashed in two is because his body was in the air and thus offered very little resistance to the FRS's expansion. Thus he got pushed back instead by the FRS's outward expanding force. If he were on a solid footing like the tree next to him, he'd be the in the same condition as the tree.

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RS sliced a tree, but chidori ins base mode busted a meteor like it was a bijuudama... just saying

 

[Megax Rocker7]

FRS is obviously stronger. The reason Madara didn't get slashed in two is because his body was in the air and thus offered very little resistance to the FRS's expansion. Thus he got pushed back instead by the FRS's outward expanding force. If he were on a solid footing like the tree next to him, he'd be the in the same condition as the tree.

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Madara was on the air when Sasuke sliced him in half with Chidori spear though.

 

[Detonator99]

Wait, since when has there been two different versions of chidori ?

:elmo:??????

Or we could simply say its Kishi inconstancy.

I already explained why it isn't an inconsistency.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

RS sliced a tree, but chidori ins base mode busted a meteor like it was a bijuudama... just saying

Are we comparing FRS vs Chidori spear or FRS vs Chidori. Also are we comparing Sasuke's Chidori two years past the war vs FRS from war arc Naruto? Just curious.

 

[Exaar]

Rasenshuriken > Rasengan = Chidori > Chidori spear

 

[Megax Rocker7]

It wouldn't kill you if you read the thread you know... Or would it?

Anyway, kishi>>>>>>You

Stay in denial.

I read it, kishi drew the panels I posted, which clearly shows Madara tanking RS and black chidori, yet chidori spear beicected.


You know what kishi didn't say? People concentrating chakra to make themselves tank attacks, now that's something stralight out of fanfic.

And according to you, kishi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you

I didn't make a thread to justify a RS failing and Chidori spear success, so you can stay in denial. :lol

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Madara was on the air when Sasuke sliced him in half with Chidori spear though.

I knew some one was gonna ask this and that's why I also mentioned FRS's outward expanding force. Chidori spear had no such thing to push back Madara.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

I knew some one was gonna ask this and that's why I also mentioned FRS's outward expanding force. Chidori spear had no such thing to push back Madara.

And since Sasuke is a rikudo enhanced character, his Chidori spear has the superior cutting power by default, though it doesn't mean it's stronger than RS because RS has a much better AoE.

 

[Melanin]

Pretty good argument but I feel as if their equal.