Lol your chakra control doesn't have to be "unparelled" just like it doesn't have to be exceptional in order to produce the seal; your chakra control has to be in a zenith (an actual synonym to pinnacle) state.
ze·nith
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noun
• the highest point reached by a celestial or other object.
Again: Just because your chakra control is exceptionally unparelled doesn't mean it's at its best or meets the the standard in devolving the Yin Seal. Shizune made it very clear:
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Medical ninjutsu requires every aspect of your chakra to be refined and Shizune (Tsunades first student) chakra is subject to that but as you can see it wasn't enough to complete the Jutsu. So if she by admittance didn't have the necessary skill as a medical ninja who trained directly under Tsunade to create the seal, why would any other random medical ninja be able too?
Anyone can be told how to do something and many may have the ability to comprehend the directions but that doesn't mean it's within their means of doing it. Orochimaru comprehended senjutsu right? He even had a strong body by regular standards. But his body wasn't strong enough to use what he comprehended right?
Lmao no! Being at the pinnacle of something is beyond parallelism because something at its highest point with zero flaw cannot be paralleled due it being at its strongest form or stage.
There's nothing to be insecure about lol especially since I'm right & your wrong lol. You've completely dismissed that the manga stated word for word that your chakra control has to be at its pinnacle, your instead trying to rewrite kishi's own words lol
Alright i concede this one forgot Shizune said that. But I'm still going with that fact it can be redone by others who have similar control in chakra.
Using Shizune as a bases doesn't mean anything though, her claiming she couldn't do it doesn't mean anything,you can be a student of whoever or the strongest in the world but a fodder is a fodder. Did not say any random medical ninja could though did i. The bodies Orochimaru used couldn't handle senjutsu chakra, his original could. That's why Kabuto used his DNA.
Of course your being insecure, why would you say i'm trying to downplay Sakura all because i used a different word? I know it's her only noteworthy feat, don't need jump down my throat about it. Did not dismiss anything, not remembering word for word what the manga said don't mean i'm trying to change it. But believe what you want, it is sakura we talking about.
There isn't "similar" chakra control because this type of chakra control requires the highest type, nothing is above it.
Using Shizune as a bases doesn't mean anything though, her claiming she couldn't do it doesn't mean anything,you can be a student of whoever or the strongest in the world but a fodder is a fodder.
Your now dodging your own argument. You said: if your a medic (forgot about that) and you have exceptional chakra control you can do it. or am I bugging? You literally said that every medical ninja that has "exceptional" chakra control is capable of producing the seal. ---> Shizune is not only a medical ninja with exceptional chakra control she was skilled enough to lead The Logistical Support and Medical Division of the Allied Shinobi Forces. And when it comes to medical ninjutsu Shizune isn't a fodder so you gotta find another deflection.
Did not say any random medical ninja could though did i.
Lmao I would have to deny the truth or facts in order to be insecure and you using a different word that isn't definablly associated with the initial description that the author purposed; isn't the truth nor factual and I proved a dozen times on this thread.
I know it's her only noteworthy feat, don't need jump down my throat about it. Did not dismiss anything, not remembering word for word what the manga said don't mean i'm trying to change it. But believe what you want, it is sakura we talking about.
There isn't "similar" chakra control because this type of chakra control requires the highest type, nothing is above it.
Your now dodging your own argument. You said: if your a medic (forgot about that) and you have exceptional chakra control you can do it. or am I bugging? You literally said that every medical ninja that has "exceptional" chakra control is capable of producing the seal. ---> Shizune is not only a medical ninja with exceptional chakra control she was skilled enough to lead The Logistical Support and Medical Division of the Allied Shinobi Forces. And when it comes to medical ninjutsu Shizune isn't a fodder so you gotta find another deflection.
You said:if your a medic (forgot about that) and you have exceptional chakra control you can do it.
I'll debunk that once again.
Tsunade says every aspect of chakra control must be refined to perfection, it's clearly the standard.
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Shizune is one of the villages top medical ninja's.
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Shizune's chakra control; feat>>>>>
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Lmao I would have to deny the truth or facts in order to be insecure and you using a different word that isn't definablly associated with the initial description that the author purposed; isn't the truth nor factual and I proved a dozen times on this thread.
That's why I said similar chakra control. You want me to the same then? It requires the same/better chakra control then Tsunade/Sakura to do the same technique.
Of course she fodder she ain't done anything that says otherwise. Again I ain't dodging anything, I used exceptional you said pinnacle, I conceded and said your right. Now all you got to do is use the same sentence you bolded out and use pinnacle instead of exceptional. "If your a medic ninja (forgot about that) and you have pinnacle chakra control you can do it." Don't see that problem with that sentence. Again she is a fodder she ain't done anything of noteworth in the manga that says otherwise.
Databook statement with no proof in the manga okay (try again you ain't debunked anything there).
Who she talking to again there? Oh other medical ninja who are doing the exact same thing as her. Does that mean she ain't the number 2 in the village cause there's others doing what she did right? So much for the databook. Tsunade would have done that on her own.
Of course you are, i wasn't in anyway trying to make sakura seem weak to what she already is. All I did was use a word not used in the manga to describe that jutsu, (which you seem to love repeating) and you get your panties in a twist so yes you seem insecure for some reason.
Wasn't an argument though ( to me at least), probably was to you cause it's about the fodder sakura right? Insecure much?
That's why I said similar chakra control. You want me to the same then? It requires the same/better chakra control then Tsunade/Sakura to do the same technique.
This further proves you lost the argument, your doing that because you no longer have anything smart too say but I'm not here for it. In terms of medical ninjutsu (which is the topic on this discussion) she is not.
Again I ain't dodging anything, I used exceptional you said pinnacle, I conceded and said your right. Now all you got to do is use the same sentence you bolded out and use pinnacle instead of exceptional. "If your a medic ninja (forgot about that) and you have pinnacle chakra control you can do it." Don't see that problem with that sentence. Again she is a fodder she ain't done anything of noteworth in the manga that says otherwise.
Lmao bow out gracefully, not only have I debunked everything you said I provided factual proof that clearly equates to: every medical ninja not being skilled enough to produce the Yin Seal. You implied that any medical ninja with exceptional chakra control or the level of chakra needed to be a medical ninja is enough and I factually proved you wrong using Shuzine as example of that not being the case. Lmao
Who she talking to again there? Oh other medical ninja who are doing the exact same thing as her.
Lol Shizune is leading Resuscitation process and she's the only one in that panel who is converting cells to repaid energy using her chakra control. The other two people there are simply using Mystical Palm to heal the superficial wounds so that she can concentrate on the the gravely injuries only. Their also their to keep track of the healing process; doctors has assistants.
How many times I gotta own you?
Does that mean she ain't the number 2 in the village cause there's others doing what she did right? So much for the databook. Tsunade would have done that on her own.
Your right though, she is no longer the number two because Sakura surpassed her & Tsunade so that I'll give you but to school you again: doctors have assistants. Does that mean their assistants can do what the doctor can?
Of course you are, i wasn't in anyway trying to make sakura seem weak to what she already is.
I honestly can care less about what your intentions or reasons were/are, I'm simply countering your argument in reference to a Jutsu. Your name checking Sakura lol I haven't brought her up yet in singularly reference at all.
All I did was use a word not used in the manga to describe that jutsu, (which you seem to love repeating) and you get your panties in a twist so yes you seem insecure for some reason.
Why would I be bothered by you trying to rewrite what kishi wrote or using an adjective that has no correlation to the word you don't understand lol.. In order for me to be insecure I would have to deny the truth and you using a word that doesn't describe what's already been discribed fall's short of the truth.
Wasn't an argument though ( to me at least), probably was to you cause it's about the fodder sakura right? Insecure much?
Lol what ever argument you had I had been bodied by yours truly but I would like to ask, why are you referencing Sakura? Tsunade and Mito have the same seal what about Sakura has you perplexed? Lol you sure your not feeling insecure? You sound like a closet fan.
Which every medical ninja doesn't have or characters period.
This further proves you lost the argument, your doing that because you no longer have anything smart too say but I'm not here for it. In terms of medical ninjutsu (which is the topic on this discussion) she is not.
Again, your grasping for straws.
Lmao bow out gracefully, not only have I debunked everything you said I provided factual proof that clearly equates to: every medical ninja not being skilled enough to produce the Yin Seal. You implied that any medical ninja with exceptional chakra control or the level of chakra needed to be a medical ninja is enough and I factually proved you wrong using Shuzine as example of that not being the case. Lmao
Lol Shizune is leading Resuscitation process and she's the only one in that panel who is converting cells to repaid energy using her chakra control. The other two people there are simply using Mystical Palm to heal the superficial wounds so that she can concentrate on the the gravely injuries only. Their also their to keep track of the healing process; doctors has assistants.
How many times I gotta own you?
Read the above. XD
Your right though, she is no longer the number two because Sakura surpassed her & Tsunade so that I'll give you but to school you again: doctors have assistants. Does that mean their assistants can do what the doctor can?
I honestly can care less about what your intentions or reasons were/are, I'm simply countering your argument in reference to a Jutsu. Your name checking Sakura lol I haven't brought her up yet in singularly reference at all.
Why would I be bothered by you trying to rewrite what kishi wrote or using an adjective that has no correlation to the word you don't understand lol.. In order for me to be insecure I would have to deny the truth and you using a word that doesn't describe what's already been discribed fall's short of the truth.
Lol what ever argument you had I had been bodied by yours truly but I would like to ask, why are you referencing Sakura? Tsunade and Mito have the same seal what about Sakura has you perplexed? Lol you sure your not feeling insecure? You sound like a closet fan.
Didn't say they did, I said they could. Anyway this about Sarada and if she could do it.
Of course she is she hasn't done anything to say otherwise. You can't prove otherwise cause in the manga she hasn't done anything that puts her as number 2. Again this ain't an argument RastaRasta.
Again no I ain't you can't say anything to say otherwise. Wonder who's grasping for straws (as you put it) cause it ain't me.
No you haven't the one thing you have done is prove me wrong about the pinnacle of chakra control thing, which I said you were right. You've proven nothing else RastaRasta. Databook statement with no proof from the manga don't make you right, you've proven me wrong with pinnacle thing with a manga scan, why not do it again with Shizune being number 2 in konoha? The 2nd scan shows your wrong actually, cause there's other ninjas there doing the exact same thing she was doing or was she talking to herself?
So she was doing that alone then? Of course she was alone if you show a page with only her in it. There were other ninjas in that room doing the exact same thing as her. Again you've proven nothing.
Of course you did you said sop lowballeing her feet or some shit and we were talking about Sakura, so yeah you did bring her up.
Did not try to rewrite anything. You keep bringing up the same shit. Are you sure you're not insecure?
This was about her though, only reason you actually quoted me was because I mentioned Sakura and you got your panties in a twist about your fav being "lowballed" because I used a exceptional instead of pinnacle. Wasnt talking about Mito though, i mentioned foddura and Tsunade. Me a closet fan of foddura? Yeah in your dreams RastaRasta. There's nothing perplexing about a fodder though, if I'm talking about someone wouldn't I mention them? Why would I talk about someone without any actual feets (however small) with the byakugou?
Of course I understand you had no "argument" to begin with. No wonder your fav is foddura. Just as pathetic.
Whatever "argument" you had about Shizune was destroyed.
False. Medical ninjutsu requires phenomenal chakra control in addition to incredible intelligence and vast knowledge by Tsunade's own affirmation and Byakugou is literally the pinnacle of medical ninjutsu. The 3rd best medical shinobi within the manga (Shizune) couldn't even accomplish such a feat and was stupefied when Sakura did it, so clearly, not everyone can learn it let alone use it.
Just take into account how this is a feat that only the God of Shinobi could replicate which tells us how tremendous Byakugou really is.
Didn't say they did, I said they could. Anyway this about Sarada and if she could do it.
Of course she is she hasn't done anything to say otherwise. You can't prove otherwise cause in the manga she hasn't done anything that puts her as number 2. Again this ain't an argument RastaRasta.
No the argument is based on your inference that creating the seal is achievable by anybody with exceptional chakra control. I simply countered that, which I did and you admit too.
Again no I ain't you can't say anything to say otherwise. Wonder who's grasping for straws (as you put it) cause it ain't me.
You likened exceptional to pinnacle when the words have zero parallelism. You then have gone onto to say that Shizune inability to create the seal was worth mentioning because she's a fodder medical ninja. I countered that as well using her databook scan that states her ability as medical ninja is strong and I even posted a scan of her performing a medical Jutsu that required the upmost chakra control but that scan isn't proof of her bring a string medical ninja too you.
No you haven't the one thing you have done is prove me wrong about the pinnacle of chakra control thing, which I said you were right.
You've proven nothing else RastaRasta. Databook statement with no proof from the manga don't make you right, you've proven me wrong with pinnacle thing with a manga scan, why not do it again with Shizune being number 2 in konoha?
I didn't say Shizune was the number two, I said she wasn't because Sakura surpassed her. What I said was: Shizune was a highly capable medical ninja that trained under Tsunade and that meant if she couldn't muster the chakra control to create the seal it only proves that "exceptional chakra control" or standard chakra control required by medical ninja's wasn't enough.
The 2nd scan shows your wrong actually, cause there's other ninjas there doing the exact same thing she was doing or was she talking to herself?
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So she was doing that alone then? Of course she was alone if you show a page with only her in it.
What aren't you getting? She wasn't alone in the room because the Jutsu requires the patients you to montir the patients chakra flow while you infuse your chakra to their celluar structure in order to speed up the healing process. The other medical ninja are there to monitor the process and tell Shizune of its working it not or maybe there wiping the sweat off her brow lol. Again your grasping for straws but discounting feat because other medical ninja's were in the room, as if it's denounces her ability..m
There were other ninjas in that room doing the exact same thing as her. Again you've proven nothing.
Alright i concede this one forgot Shizune said that. But I'm still going with that fact it can be redone by others who have similar control in chakra.
Using Shizune as a bases doesn't mean anything though, her claiming she couldn't do it doesn't mean anything,you can be a student of whoever or the strongest in the world but a fodder is a fodder. Did not say any random medical ninja could though did i. The bodies Orochimaru used couldn't handle senjutsu chakra, his original could. That's why Kabuto used his DNA.
Of course your being insecure, why would you say i'm trying to downplay Sakura all because i used a different word? I know it's her only noteworthy feat, don't need jump down my throat about it. Did not dismiss anything, not remembering word for word what the manga said don't mean i'm trying to change it. But believe what you want, it is sakura we talking about.
I keep forgetting that I won the argument, that's fault.
This was about her though, only reason you actually quoted me was because I mentioned Sakura and you got your panties in a twist about your fav being "lowballed" because I used a exceptional instead of pinnacle.
Again I never once brought up Sakura or initially responded with her in any of my post, you brought her up and you've seemed to forget that you did but now you you remember "mentioning" her. Anyway, no one cares what you think about Sakura and I could care less as well. You didn't have the facts on your side so I'd though I'd tell you what they were.
Wasnt talking about Mito though, i mentioned foddura and Tsunade. Me a closet fan of foddura? Yeah in your dreams RastaRasta. There's nothing perplexing about a fodder though, if I'm talking about someone wouldn't I mention them? Why would I talk about someone without any actual feets (however small) with the byakugou?
1. Read! I never implied that you were talking about Mito, I said that she also had the seal which says she had good chakra control and was worth mention.
2. Sakura is fodder, your comprehension is. Pinnacle and exceptional have no relation in the English dictionary.
3. You are a closet fan, why else would you bring her up?
4. It's feats not feets lol
5. I won the argument.
Of course I understand you had no "argument" to begin with.
Uhmmmmmmm, didn't you equate exceptional to pinnacle? And didn't I prove that there is no relation between the words? I mean you agreed that I was right and you were so what's the deal?
Well if pathetic is the standard, your a fan of foddura too because that's what your argument of exceptional = pinnacle.
That's pathetic, totally ignoring the English dictionary just to sound smart and object to a point (Byakygou) which you have zero knowlage about lol
I guess we're both foddura fans, except I'm smarter because I don't ignore the meanings of words.
Whatever "argument" you had about Shizune was destroyed.
Altering body using chakra, ninja powers, medical abilities and knowledge. Regeneration, recreating whole body, manipulation on DNA and cells isn't Medical Ninjutsu to you?
