Which fights do you think Plot no Jutsu had a huge factor in?

[Uchiha Joe]

Kaguya fight just to name a big one.

Indeed. Pure ass pull no jutsu.

 

[Mori Jin]

Poor attempt at trolling. You can't even say that with a straight face.



Triggered. Get off tumblr, mate. I didn't know the facility you're in gives you more than 30 minutes of internet a day. You're always butthurt and triggered. Go on, have your jello and call it a night, pal.

Says the troll. I'll say it again just for you, every single sasuke fight.

 

[Uchiha Joe]

Says the troll. I'll say it again just for you, every single sasuke fight.

Again, you're a sad troll. Log out, come back when you're not an idiotic troll.

 

[LuckyMan]

-Chakra so low can't keep his Sharingan on.
-Summons Manda
-Genjutsu on Manda with Sharingan he just couldn't use 5 seconds ago.
-Legit.

Never got explanation how this occurred. Not even a hint or something that'd let us deduce it on our own. Nothing. Just plain old plot no jutsu. This was really probably the only time Kishimoto EVER wrote himself in a corner and went "the hell with it".

 

[Mori Jin]

Again, you're a sad troll. Log out, come back when you're not an idiotic troll.

Says the troll. I'll say it again just for you, every single sasuke fight.

 

[Melanin]

Sasuke vs Deidara, AKA the great snake escape.

Yea, Sasuke should've lost that one.

I just watched that again.

 

[Uchiha Joe]

Says the troll. I'll say it again just for you, every single sasuke fight.

You can keep saying that all you want. Keep repeating yourself like a broken record. Doesn't change anything.

 

[Warlocks]

vote 1 and vote 2 sasuke had his Plot armor active

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

1. Naruto VS Kiba and Neji

2. Kakazu VS Naruto

3. Uchiha Bros VS Kabuto

4. 3rd Raikage VS Naruto

5. Deidara VS Sasuke's ending

6. Obito VS Kakashi Kamui Dimension

7. Itachi VS Oro (both times, lol)

8. Momoshiki VS Naruto and Sasuke. Much stronger sure but restricted to just taijutsu, those two are NOT that nimble or adept.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

-Chakra so low can't keep his Sharingan on.
-Summons Manda
-Genjutsu on Manda with Sharingan he just couldn't use 5 seconds ago.
-Legit.

Never got explanation how this occurred. Not even a hint or something that'd let us deduce it on our own. Nothing. Just plain old plot no jutsu. This was really probably the only time Kishimoto EVER wrote himself in a corner and went "the hell with it".

It's also stuff we didn't know he could do til that point and even with Sasuke's speed had 2 seconds tops to realise the threat, conjure up the plan, summon Manda and genjutsu Manda. It's suuuuuuch a stretch to outspeed an atomic explosion.

 

[Mori Jin]

You can keep saying that all you want. Keep repeating yourself like a broken record. Doesn't change anything.

Says the troll. I'll say it again just for you, every single sasuke fight.

 

[Arian]

i hate it when people use this stupid plot argument. dude, people (comic/manga people as well) arent perfect and make mistakes. just cause one has some better feats or better techniques doesnt automatically mean he should win. no one knows the chars as well as the creator hmself. and when the creator feels like a certain character should lose a fight in a certain way, thats totally legit.

no one would have thought that anderson silva, the GOAT would lose to Weidman (twice at that) but he did. no one thought tyson ****ing fury would beat wladimir klitschko, but that totally happened. thats life, get over it. and if you cant:

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[Exaar]

Sasuke keeping up with Haku's mirror speed

Gaara surviving Lee's Gated Combo

Naruto beating Neji

Sasuke not dying in deidara's suicide

Naruto beating Pein

Sakura and the old lady beating sasori

Naruto landing FRS on Kakuzu

juubi jin obito beaten by Naruto&Sasuke cuz muh friendship is stronk

Kaguya fight

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

i hate it when people use this stupid plot argument. dude, people (comic/manga people as well) arent perfect and make mistakes. just cause one has some better feats or better techniques doesnt automatically mean he should win. no one knows the chars as well as the creator hmself. and when the creator feels like a certain character should lose a fight in a certain way, thats totally legit.

no one would have thought that anderson silva, the GOAT would lose to Weidman (twice at that) but he did. no one thought tyson ****ing fury would beat wladimir klitschko, but that totally happened. thats life, get over it. and if you cant:

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...So you're treating these characters as if they're real people unbound by plot?

Every battle is pre-decided by the direction of the plot but characters still need to be put in jeopardy. Kishi's job is to hide the fact that these protagonists are story-wise invincible and come up with good reasons as to how they overcome obstacles.

When Kishi deus ex machinas a fight, it's very apparent and bad storytelling.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Triggered. Get off tumblr, mate. I didn't know the facility you're in gives you more than 30 minutes of internet a day. You're always butthurt and triggered. Go on, have your jello and call it a night, pal.

You're really trying hard to prove something that's not there and failing to hide your own butthurt at the same time. Just chill mate, be glad that Sasuke survived in the end doesn't matter if it was on others mercy...

 

[Itachi Edo]

Which fights throughout the manga did you feel plot had a big factor in person A beating person B?

For me:

- Naruto vs Sasuke Final VOTE fight. Sasuke was easily the better fighter, but he "lost" because the main character needed to win in order to bring him back from darkness. Realistically, Naruto dies in that Fight and Sasuke takes over the world.

- Naruto and Sasuke vs Obito (juubito) - that sword Obito whipped up that managed to fail was Plot no jutsu at it's finest. Pure BS. And i can admit that.

- Naruto shouldn't of been able to beat Pain. PURE BS.

- Naruto shouldn't of been able to beat part 1 Neji. That was pure Plot no jutsu.

- Hashirama beating Madara (alive madara vs alive Hashirama) was plot no jutsu. Madara has PS and Kurama, he should've easily won. Plus, Hashirama only beat him by a surprise attack from the back when madara was off guard. Pure bs.

- Sakura and Chiyo beating Sasori was bs.

- Kakashi, Naruto, Bee and Gai managing to hold their own against rinnegan obito was BS.

Naruto vs Pain. Pain had Naruto captured and pinned down. Should have been a wrap.

 

[Umari Senju]

Both Naruto AND Sasuke...and everyone else were saved by "plot" that's what plot is. Why would any of you think a writer/director/animator would display a fight between two or more opposing forces without having a predetermined course of events that will lead to one or another's victory?

Do you think they are just suppose to wing it and decides who wins by hashing out a bunch of moves and at the last minute decide who the winner is?

Also this is a Shonen manga. With few exceptions the protagonist is always going to win his fights. His/her rival will always win their fights because they need to face each other in the final act. You guys act like this is something new.

 

[Nick01]

Naruto shits on Sasuke and always will be like that...

-Better skillz at everything...

This is common sense.

OT :

Mostly every fight Sasuke participated in. Especially Vote 1 where plot demanded Sasuke to be the one walking out of there, when Naruto could've beaten him down. Hell even in Vote 2 plot aided in him. It's thanks to Plot/Naruto that he survived for as long as he did before submitting to Naruto's superiority.

Madara and Kaguya vs Naruto and Sasuke had a lot of plot no jutsu as well.

Sakura when she got hit with the rod, but came out alive thanks to plot.

 

[sayian]

All of them. Especially shippuden

 

[sayian]

...So you're treating these characters as if they're real people unbound by plot?

Every battle is pre-decided by the direction of the plot but characters still need to be put in jeopardy. Kishi's job is to hide the fact that these protagonists are story-wise invincible and come up with good reasons as to how they overcome obstacles.

When Kishi deus ex machinas a fight, it's very apparent and bad storytelling.

Overusing handicaps and nerfs is not a good reason.