[Discussion] Thoughts on weevile ???

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Was watching the dude legendmac via YouTube

Haven't finished the video but it is based on ranking all warlords

And I was noticing in comments that weevile by the majority is considered stronger then the likes of mdofflamingo and Hancock and even kuma (with a brain)

I really do not see why

He does not really have feats he has a little hype from kizaru but tbh almost everyone that kizaru has encountered has been called "scary" etc...

Why do ppl accept that he's stronger then these three when these three have hype and feats out the ass to suggest otherwise

If this is about being beat by Luffy I mean eventually all the warlords will be taken down by Luffy in some sort of fashion (Mihawk will be taken down by zoro who is under Luffy etc)
And it can't be because he's one-of the last one shown because Mihawk is the first warlord shown and he's believed (by majority including myself) to be the strongest warlord

His design does not seem that impressive and we do not know if he is even white beards son ... even if he is we seen what happen to gold d Rodgers son lol and I rank those three above ace:|

So what is it what are your thoughts on this character

 

[Genocide]

you mean the pokemon

 

[KCN]

Luffy knocks him spark out. How about that.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

He hunted down whiteboard's subordinates and soloed them besides the top ranking officals. It took an army of guys to fight them and they still lost (admirals not included).

Weevil is yet to be stop, has confidence in his capabilities, and is recognized by an Admiral to be very powerful. Despite more hype than feats, he made it this far in the new world without a crew which is something only Mihawk has done.

 

[Punk Hazard]

"And even Kuma(without a brain)"
Kuma has never done anything actually impressive to warrant this

OT: He's probably one of the strongest. Like, top 3, but I can't stand his design.

 

[LBeezy]

Rikudou Tobi and Riker said it best..

Weevil has enough hype/feats to be considered one of the strongest Shichibukai currently.. maybe top 3..

And yes his design is ugly af lol xd but what a perfect sized fighter to go up against a Gear Fourth variant.. perfect size and perfect personality to go against Luffy for an entertaining fight. Imo. Lol

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

"And even Kuma(without a brain)"
Kuma has never done anything actually impressive to warrant this

OT: He's probably one of the strongest. Like, top 3, but I can't stand his design.

What are u tlking about kuma soloed the straw hats and we have yet to see him go all out etc.obviously kuma with brain is stronger he can think for himself instead of just sitting there and getting attacked (example ivankov)
Not to mention Haki seems to be based off of someone's will so how can a robot (full) have a will there for no Haki which sucks because in new world he does not have Haki

 

[Punk Hazard]

What are u tlking about kuma soloed the straw hats

Not really impressive. Luffy was an ant at Marineford, and the rest of the crew are even weaker than that. The timeskip and Marineford have shown us just how many people could have done what Kuma did since the Strawhats were well and truly leaves in a hurricane pre-skip. 90% of the roster of major players currently could have done that to the Strawhats pre-skip.

Not to mention Haki seems to be based off of someone's will so how can a robot (full) have a will there for no Haki which sucks because in new world he does not have Haki

Kuma has exactly zero Haki feats. Haki is negligible in this conversation for Kuma.

 

[ToshiZO]

Kuma is overrated, he took damage while soloing a strawhat crew (minus Luffy) that just fought a death battle against a Shichibukai.

From a portrayal perspective it's not to be completely ignored but that crew was already half dead. Kizaru casually soloing Supernovas is something of much more worth from a portrayal perspective.

Zoro lowkey solos Kuma.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Kuma is overrated, he took damage while soloing a strawhat crew (minus Luffy) that just fought a death battle against a Shichibukai.

From a portrayal perspective it's not to be completely ignored but that crew was already half dead. Kizaru casually soloing Supernovas is something of much more worth from a portrayal perspective.

Zoro lowkey solos Kuma.

Not even lowkey. Luffy using invisible Haki and Gear 2, his mid-tier stuff, busted open a Pacifista. Zoro and Sanji do the same thing also using what's practically mid-tier stuff for them. Kuma is made of the same stuff, it's pretty likely that any of them get a good clean hit in, Kuma is done for. Which wouldn't even be so hard since they tagged him before the timeskip.

 

[ToshiZO]

Not even lowkey. Luffy using invisible Haki and Gear 2, his mid-tier stuff, busted open a Pacifista. Zoro and Sanji do the same thing also using what's practically mid-tier stuff for them. Kuma is made of the same stuff, it's pretty likely that any of them get a good clean hit in, Kuma is done for. Which wouldn't even be so hard since they tagged him before the timeskip.

I wouldn't take it that far, we've already had this discussion Kuma is not made up of the same stuff as the Pacifista, Ivankov was raining attacks on him and couldn't get a scratch in.

There is no way in hell Ivankov can't scratch a pacifista with multiple attacks when Sanji can one shot them with a regular DJ kick.

But yea Zoro who was half dead was dodging Kuma's attacks and even managed to land an attack and cut him. Kuma might have been holding back but the fact of the matter is that Zoro was exhausted. So very likely Zoro can beat him now.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I wouldn't take it that far, we've already had this discussion Kuma is not made up of the same stuff as the Pacifista

Where's the definitive proof of this?

Ivankov was raining attacks on him and couldn't get a scratch in.

There is no way in hell Ivankov can't scratch a pacifista with multiple attacks when Sanji can one shot them with a regular DJ kick.

The Monster Trio could very well be stronger than Ivankov. He's been even less impressive than Kuma was.

 

[ToshiZO]

Where's the definitive proof of this?


The Monster Trio could very well be stronger than Ivankov. He's been even less impressive than Kuma was.

Being stronger than and Ivankov being such a fodder that he can't even scratch (emphasis on scratch) a Pacifista are worlds apart.

I'm not even asking you to believe defeating a Pacifista, we're talking about scratching one. You'd have to be incredibly caught up in your own argument to believe Ivankov is not capable of that.

Heck even believing Ivankov can't one shot a pacifista is a stretch to begin with, but that's not even the argument.

Ivankov being unable to scratch a pacifista is not even worth entertaining. I'd believe Sanji can solo Kaidou before I believe Ivankov can't scratch a pacifista.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Being stronger than and Ivankov being such a fodder that he can't even scratch (emphasis on scratch) a Pacifista are worlds apart.

I'm not even asking you to believe defeating a Pacifista, we're talking about scratching one. You'd have to be incredibly caught up in your own argument to believe Ivankov is not capable of that.


Heck even believing Ivankov can't one shot a pacifista is a stretch to begin with, but that's not even the argument.

Ivankov being unable to scratch a pacifista is not even worth entertaining. I'd believe Sanji can solo Kaidou before I believe Ivankov can't scratch a pacifista.

Has Ivankov showed the capacity to do either? Is there definitive feats behind any of this?

 

[Love Cook]

But yea Zoro who was half dead was dodging Kuma's attacks and even managed to land an attack and cut him. Kuma might have been holding back but the fact of the matter is that Zoro was exhausted. So very likely Zoro can beat him now.

That never happened. Zoro managed to cut his clothes off but Kuma wasn't cut in any way.

 

[ToshiZO]

Has Ivankov showed the capacity to do either? Is there definitive feats behind any of this?

Simple power scaling. Pacifista's are trash tier for any character worth a damn let alone one of the top

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Who could fodderize pre timeskip Sanji neg difficulty. Survive attacks from Akainu without any major issues etc.

I mean this is simple reading comprehension, it doesn't even warrant an explanation. For Ivankov to be unable to scratch a pacifista is a laughable argument.

I won't be discussing this any further.

That never happened. Zoro managed to cut his clothes off but Kuma wasn't cut in any way.

Nah you don't Wince and say "Uugh...!!!" if your shirt got cut. Nor does smoke start coming out of you where you get cut.

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Did he get cut through? No, but it was definitely more than his shirt ripping.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Simple power scaling. Pacifista's are trash tier for any character worth a damn let alone one of the top

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Who could fodderize pre timeskip Sanji neg difficulty. Survive attacks from Akainu without any major issues etc.

I mean this is simple reading comprehension, it doesn't even warrant an explanation. For Ivankov to be unable to scratch a pacifista is a laughable argument.

I won't be discussing this any further.



Nah you don't Wince and say "Uugh...!!!" if your shirt got cut. Nor does smoke start coming out of you where you get cut.

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Did he get cut through? No, but it was definitely more than his shirt ripping.

Yeah I'm gonna need some actual feats, not a bunch of assumption and presumption without so much as one scan to back it up. He took one blow from Akainu then passed out. He barely did anything.

 

[Love Cook]

Nah you don't Wince and say "Uugh...!!!" if your shirt got cut. Nor does smoke start coming out of you where you get cut.

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Did he get cut through? No, but it was definitely more than his shirt ripping.

Nice try dumbass but next time flip the page please.

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One of his strongest cuts left a tiny dent. This attack is more in favor of Kuma than Zoro. Besides the only reason that attack landed was plot device for Oda to show he is a cyborg. They were unable to reproduce the same feat on Sabaody.

 

[ToshiZO]

It's called a logical assumption, one that you can use time to time when interpreting literature.

There are many other ways to determine something instead of through feats alone, for example Mihawk not having haki despite having plenty of panel time to showcase it. 1 + 1.

One of his strongest cuts left a tiny dent. This attack is more in favor of Kuma than Zoro.

Who gives a shit? A Zoro left with 5% of his power, doesn't have favourable portrayal over a Shichibukai who was beating on corpses? Whoop dee doo.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Well, he said "Ur..." actually which doesn't seem at all to be a pained reaction.

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